--- Log opened Sun Oct 30 00:00:44 2011 00:07 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-178-002-176-091.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:08 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-178-002-191-081.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 00:13 -!- fra79Wii [~fra79Wii@x1-6-00-26-f2-16-1e-de.k330.webspeed.dk] has left #navit [] 00:14 -!- Amorphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has joined #navit 00:52 -!- mase76 [~mase76@pD9FF66EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:14 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-178-002-191-081.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:14 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-188-104-190-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 01:54 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 02:05 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:4e36:79ae::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:11 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:35cf::1] has joined #navit 02:11 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 02:30 -!- cp15` [mvbukh@p57B1D6C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 02:30 -!- cp15 [nceiao@p57B1D006.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:30 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 02:30 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 03:03 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:35cf::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:09 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:30af::1] has joined #navit 03:09 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 03:30 -!- cp15` [cpqfwr@p57B1CB7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:30 -!- cp15 [mvbukh@p57B1D6C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:30 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:31 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 04:41 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@cl-205.udi-01.br.sixxs.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:45 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@cl-205.udi-01.br.sixxs.net] has joined #navit 06:10 -!- aaron [cbadd1c9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.173.209.201] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:28 -!- Mineque_mobi [~Mineque@user-46-112-11-102.play-internet.pl] has joined #navit 07:39 -!- Mineque_mobi [~Mineque@user-46-112-11-102.play-internet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:03 -!- rd [~rd@p57B498A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 08:37 -!- rd [~rd@p57B498A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:44 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@252.231.112.78.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 08:44 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@252.231.112.78.rev.sfr.net] has left #navit [] 08:56 -!- noradtux is now known as noradtux|away 09:02 -!- sven-tek [~sven-tek@bchm-4d091293.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #navit 09:10 -!- sven-tek [~sven-tek@bchm-4d091293.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:18 -!- Mineque_mobi [~Mineque@user-109-243-202-72.play-internet.pl] has joined #navit 09:52 -!- rd [~rd@p57B498A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 10:16 -!- Lemmi_ [~chatzilla@p5B092E17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 10:17 -!- Lemmi_ [~chatzilla@p5B092E17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:34 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229044096.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 10:44 -!- rd [~rd@p57B498A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:46 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:48 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 11:13 -!- bogo10 [5b24d657@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.36.214.87] has joined #navit 11:15 -!- mase76 [~mase76@pD9FF66EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 11:20 < bogo10> hello all there 11:20 < woglinde> hi 11:20 < bogo10> here's the man - woglinde 11:21 < woglinde> ? 11:21 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21 < bogo10> you are knowing something about navit at wince i remember? 11:21 < woglinde> yes a bit 11:22 < bogo10> i bought an old pocket pc with wince 2003 2nd ed. 11:22 < woglinde> hm 11:22 < woglinde> 2003 is maybee problematic 11:23 < bogo10> navit installs fine and works but the connection to the gps (intern) will not establish 11:24 < woglinde> hm this again 11:24 < bogo10> log: vehicle_wince:wince_reader_thread:GPS data comes too fast. Have to wait here 11:24 < bogo10> this come many times 11:25 < bogo10> later: navit:tracking_update:failed to get position data 1 1 1 0 11:25 < bogo10> also many times 11:26 < bogo10> until today i tried successfull: route66 nav7, gosmore, glopus, sirftech 11:26 -!- Mineque_mobi [~Mineque@user-109-243-202-72.play-internet.pl] has quit [] 11:27 < bogo10> without problem to connect to the gps - port and baud - goes 11:28 < bogo10> makes a bug report sense? 11:32 < woglinde> I looked at the code 11:32 < woglinde> and I have no idea 11:32 < woglinde> how to solve it 11:38 < bogo10> that makes me not happier;-( 11:42 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229044096.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:56 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229044096.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 11:56 -!- rd [~rd@p57B498A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 12:03 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.82.29.107.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 12:09 -!- dandor__ [~dandor@91.82.29.107.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 12:10 < dandor__> hi bogo10 12:10 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.82.29.107.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:11 < dandor__> according to the error message only the time information is not parsed correctly from your gps device's nmea output 12:12 < dandor__> if you have some coding experience you can check function vehicle_wince_parse() in vehicle/wince/vehicle_wince.c 12:13 < dandor__> there are comments there that show the expected nmea format if you set up nmea logging with your device you can compare the differences and fix the parsing 12:17 < hape> dandor__: Hi, do you know why navit diden liked the first line? 12:18 -!- mase76 [~mase76@pD9FF66EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19 < dandor__> hape, maybe the nmea parsing algo expects only other type of nmea records only 12:20 < dandor__> i guess it should be improved to support more record types or at least ignore them and continue processing 12:21 < woglinde> hm so you got the gps file driver working? 12:22 < dandor__> woglinde, just removed the first line and it worked however the timing was not correct 12:22 < dandor__> maybe parsing the time info from the nmea sentences is not correct in all cases 12:23 < dandor__> i think the problem exists both in wince vehicle driver and the file vehicle also 12:24 -!- mase76 [~mase76@pD9FF66EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 12:25 < dandor__> at least the error msg "navit:tracking_update:failed to get position data 1 1 1 0" suggests this 12:25 < dandor__> you can find the code for this msg in track.c 12:25 < dandor__> the problem is the last zero which means invalid time attribute 12:29 < dandor__> woglinde, i think the nmea parsing code is similar in the wince and the file driver 12:30 < woglinde> hm 12:30 < woglinde> cp15 should fix it 12:30 < dandor__> the problem is either the priv->fixyear or priv->fixtime is not parsed correctly 12:30 -!- rd [~rd@p57B498A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:31 -!- mase76 [~mase76@pD9FF66EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:34 < hape> dandor__: thanks, on the webOS Touchpad we have the problem that we get the gps data. curently we have a test app that writes it into a file. 12:35 < hape> dandor__: thanks, on the webOS Touchpad we have the problem that we get the gps data only from a webOS internal API. curently we have a test app that writes it into a file. 12:35 < dandor__> hape, cheers! 12:36 < hape> Do anybody have an idea how we could feed them into navit without creating a second webOS vehicle driver? 12:37 < hape> My idea would be to write them into a dummy file and get navit to read the data from there at the same time when new data is appanded. could this work? 12:38 < bogo10> sorry, back again 12:40 < bogo10> I see, there are many people looking at the problem 12:41 < bogo10> I have no programming experience but is there a thing I can help with? 12:41 < dandor__> hape, i think you can use an attribute in your tag which specifies which source to use 12:42 < dandor__> this can be checked in vehicle_XXX_new() function 12:48 < bogo10> away but looking at the archive 13:00 < woglinde> hape navit can read form socker 13:00 < woglinde> socket 13:00 < woglinde> so write the data from the app to a socket 13:02 -!- mase76 [~mase76@pD9FF66EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 13:05 < woglinde> hape and when you make the socket in tmpfs so you waste no cycles of your sdcards 13:06 -!- mase76 [~mase76@pD9FF66EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10 < dandor__> hape I think I know what is the problem with your nmea sentence 13:14 < dandor__> you have a lot of GPRMC line in the beginning of your nmea trace flagged invalid(second field is "V" instead of "A") 13:15 < dandor__> after this the records with valid flag are handled correctly 13:15 < woglinde> dandor and navit handle it false way? 13:15 < dandor__> no ,it handles it correctly 13:17 < dandor__> just need to wait a little for the valid records 13:20 < dandor__> in my linux box it also works with $PMTK010,001*2E line 13:28 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit 13:34 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:38 -!- tryagain [d9962ab9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.150.42.185] has joined #navit 13:42 -!- dandor__ [~dandor@91.82.29.107.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:23 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD456B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 14:25 < sleske> bogo10: Hi, you asked how to help without programming experience. 14:26 < sleske> bogo10: Welcome to Navit development! There's many ways you can help. 14:28 < sleske> bogo10: You can check the docs in the Wiki, correct any pages that are wrong (or just hard to understand). You can just run Navit and report any bugs you can find. 14:29 < sleske> bogo10: You can check Navit's trac for bug reports. For old bug reports, you can try to reproduce them (if you have the right environment), and make appropriate comments, or close bugs that no longer exist. For new bugs, try to reproduce them and note your experiences, or close them if they are just misunderstandings. 14:30 < sleske> bogo10: A fresh look at a project is always valuable. Maybe you see problems that longtime users and devs have grown used to. Raise them on IRC, and/or file bugs on trac. 14:36 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit 14:43 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:44 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit 14:50 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:51 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit 15:01 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit 15:22 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:43 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit 15:48 -!- mase76 [~mase76@ip-109-85-223-132.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:54 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.82.29.107.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 16:15 -!- sera_ [~sera@114-145.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #navit 16:16 -!- sera [~sera@238-78.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:18 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.82.29.107.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:34 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@f052232208.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 16:36 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-98-248-33-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:37 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229044096.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:44 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B498A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 17:03 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A9F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 17:16 -!- woglinde_ is now known as woglinde 17:53 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B498A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:06 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-98-248-33-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 18:15 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@252.231.112.78.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 18:15 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@252.231.112.78.rev.sfr.net] has left #navit [] 19:17 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B498A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 19:28 -!- tryagain [d9962ab9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.150.42.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:38 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@f052237223.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 19:41 -!- woglinde [~heinold@f052232208.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:00 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B498A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:12 -!- woglinde_ is now known as woglinde 20:28 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD456B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:36 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 21:18 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A9F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@86-3-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined #navit 21:36 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 21:37 -!- woglinde [~heinold@f052237223.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: zapp] 21:42 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42 -!- woglinde [~woglinde@f052237223.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 21:48 -!- sera_ [~sera@114-145.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:01 -!- sera_ [~sera@32-130.62-81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #navit 22:26 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@86-3-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Quit: You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me] 22:27 -!- woglinde [~woglinde@f052237223.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:58 -!- Amorphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:14 -!- Amorphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has joined #navit --- Log closed Mon Oct 31 00:00:44 2011