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00:19 < firespeaker> what's wrong with the wiki?  =(
00:25 < drlizau> its known to be unwell
00:51 < firespeaker> like the apertium wiki
00:51 < firespeaker> its host's hard drive fills up and then has mysql problems
00:55 < firespeaker> http://www.solarfire.org/Solar-Hot-Water-Almost-free-method
00:55 < firespeaker> what a poorly written article
00:55 < firespeaker> the first mention of "the solar tank" is after they've described how they've assembled two tanks
00:55 < firespeaker> and it's unclear which one they mean
00:55 < firespeaker> and how it's getting heated
00:55  * firespeaker continues reading
00:58 < firespeaker> oh
00:58 < firespeaker> I see
00:58 < firespeaker> the hoses are on a dish OUTSIDE
00:58 < firespeaker> which they also never said
00:58 < firespeaker> and apparently by the hoses getting warmed they keep the water warm
00:59 < firespeaker> they just pump it back and forth from and into their old water heater
00:59 < firespeaker> "In operation, the pump takes water from the bottom of the tank and forces it (through the hose) 12 feet up to a vent hole in the basement ceiling, which is at ground level on the South side of the house. It then goes under a sidewalk, and into 200 to 300 feet of hose that lays in an old fiberglass satellite dish."
00:59 < firespeaker> NOT CLEAR
01:00 < firespeaker> wrong room :-P
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01:35 < firespeaker> sorry about that ranting in the wrong channel earlier
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03:46 < firespeaker> wiki :(
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10:05 < cpx> hi everybody
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14:30 < capra> hi
14:30 < capra> the wiki seems to be down
14:31 < capra> anyone know if/when it is going to b online again?
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14:47 < zoff99> hi
14:48 < woglinde> capra maybee next week
14:48 < woglinde> hi zoff
14:49 < capra> ok, thanks
14:49 < capra> another question: is there any other way to download maps in meanwhile?
14:49 < woglinde> ?
14:49 < woglinde> maps runs on diffrent server in diffrent countries
14:50 < capra> I need for offline navigation
14:50 < capra> I go to "download first map" and choose one map but it does not download
14:50 < capra> "Error downloading map"
14:52 < capra> they seems to try to connect to maps.navit-project.org for downloading the maps
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14:52 < capra> but that is down as well
14:53 < woglinde> try maps2
14:53 < woglinde> or maps4
14:53 < woglinde> I think we have 1 to 5
14:53 < woglinde> one of them should work
14:55 < capra> the thing is that I am trying to do this directly from android and I see no way I could change the server
14:56 < woglinde> use a browser
14:57 < capra> is it enough to copy the map into the navit folder?
14:57 < capra> can I configure somehow to use the sdcard?
14:57 < zoff99> use zanavi for now if you must have it working right now
14:59 < zoff99> otherwise wait until they fix the server
15:00 < capra> I see. is zanavi going to replace navit for android?
15:02 < capra> is there any way to configure navit to use maps stored on the sdcard?
15:03 < woglinde> yes
15:04 < woglinde> its in the wiki
15:04 < woglinde> :)
15:07 < capra> bad time for me then :)
15:07 < woglinde> use zanavi for now
15:08 < capra> what' the point with zanavi vs navit? which one is going to be supported on a longer time?
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15:18 < woglinde> zanavi is a fork of navit on android
15:19 < woglinde> dont know how at the moment how much zoff catch up with the normal devleopment
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16:04 < zoff99> well they both work , so it the users choice
16:05 < zoff99> any new development on osm relations ? anyone doing some work in that direction?
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19:46 < tryagain> cp15 ping
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20:20 < julianoliver> i'm trying to download maps using the latest Navit on my Samsung Galaxy SII and am seeing (very briefly) popups reporting that the application has crashed. any ideas?
20:20 < julianoliver> it's the I9100
20:20 < julianoliver> i'm trying to manually download maps using http://maps7.navit-project.org/ now.
20:20 < julianoliver> nice service btw..
20:31 < tryagain> julianoliver well there's a known problem with maps.navit-project.org server. Probably automatic download isn't working because of foresaid problem. Hope it will be fixed tomorrow.
20:36 < julianoliver> tryagain: cheers, i'll tryagain tomorrow ;)
20:36 < tryagain> ;)
20:42 < drlizau> i've just tried now and selected a 'small' area, and have a working map
20:42 < drlizau> by small i mean just part of Asutralia, not the whole continent as usual.
20:43 < drlizau> perhaps if you try a series of small maps you may have success - days ago someone mentioned something about disk space
20:43 < julianoliver> drlizau: i tried using Angola from the menu on the device but same issue.
20:43 < julianoliver> (65Mb IIRC)
20:44 < julianoliver> i just selected all of Europe using the marquee on the above site and that *.bin seems to be coming down fine.
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