--- Log opened Tue Nov 08 00:00:44 2011 01:02 -!- 13WAARLXV [~laroche@dslb-178-002-177-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:53 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:44 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@cl-205.udi-01.br.sixxs.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:45 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@cl-205.udi-01.br.sixxs.net] has joined #navit 03:02 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:3003::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:07 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@cl-205.udi-01.br.sixxs.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:08 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:4e36:10c5::1] has joined #navit 03:09 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 03:10 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@cl-205.udi-01.br.sixxs.net] has joined #navit 03:29 -!- cp15` [jsmelw@p57B1CA77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:29 -!- cp15 [ficgxu@p57B1CCBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:29 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:29 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 04:17 -!- mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3AF46.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 04:20 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A5F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:33 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 05:52 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 05:55 -!- playya [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:22 -!- MockUp [57bc28f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.188.40.248] has joined #navit 06:31 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:4e36:10c5::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:32 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:4e36:10c5::1] has joined #navit 06:32 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 06:53 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has joined #navit 07:09 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.127.157.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 07:09 < dandor> hello MockUp 07:11 < dandor> are you sure that you execute svn 4845? 07:11 < dandor> i could reproduce the problem using 4844 but not with 4845 07:12 < dandor> maybe you haven't copied the executable or you have some similar problem 07:12 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.83.127.157.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Client Quit] 07:16 < MockUp> yes 07:17 < MockUp> I downloaded it from the navit page 07:17 < MockUp> its intressting, because the file attributes are 644, so that navit can read and write to this file 07:18 < MockUp> the problem with 4844 was that the attributes are 444 07:18 < MockUp> or not? 07:19 < MockUp> OK I will be test the 4846, the new one 07:19 < MockUp> but in the afternoon not now 07:20 < MockUp> The intresting thing is, that navit write this file and sets the attributes! I changed there nothings 07:21 < MockUp> Or could there a problem of the self compiled linux system 07:22 < MockUp> with the libs that navit use, but all other things like nano, vi or so makes truble 07:24 -!- Slash-Me [53f33002@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.243.48.2] has joined #navit 07:24 < MockUp> and currently the only user in this System is root 07:26 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@189.71.8.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 07:28 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@189.71.8.109.rev.sfr.net] has left #navit [] 08:15 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.53] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:28 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.53] has joined #navit 08:41 -!- MockUp [57bc28f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.188.40.248] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:23 -!- hexlotar [~quassel@border-dmz-link.opu.ua] has joined #navit 09:24 < hexlotar> good time of the day 09:24 < hexlotar> I have same question as last time 09:25 < hexlotar> How can I extend navit drawing system to draw a particular element 09:26 < hexlotar> also I have another question: Where I can find binding bettween map element(street) and its drawing 09:26 < hexlotar> Sory for my english/ 09:40 -!- laroche2 [~laroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 09:41 -!- laroche3 [~laroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 09:41 -!- laroche2 [~laroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:41 -!- laroche3 [~laroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:52 -!- flaroche [~flaroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 10:12 -!- AlexWien [3eb2a7e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.178.167.226] has joined #navit 10:12 < AlexWien> Hi again! 10:13 < AlexWien> @cp15 I recently solved the problem that UI Text was in english instead of german 10:14 < AlexWien> When using cmake the locale folder has to be copied un folder up ( where navit.exe is located) 10:14 < AlexWien> .. one folder up ... 10:15 < AlexWien> however now some text is german, some english, anybody have heard of that problem? 10:17 < AlexWien> (win32 build using cmake with mingw32 10:25 -!- flaroche [~flaroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:25 -!- flaroche [~laroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 10:37 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@cl-205.udi-01.br.sixxs.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:54 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32 -!- hexlotar [~quassel@border-dmz-link.opu.ua] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13 -!- hexlotar [~quassel@border-dmz-link.opu.ua] has joined #navit 12:13 < hexlotar> hello 12:13 < hexlotar> can someone help me 12:20 < hexlotar> help! 12:30 -!- gringo [~gringo@h195202184107.med.cm.kabsi.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:55 -!- gringo [~gringo@h195202184107.med.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #navit 12:58 -!- hexlotar [~quassel@border-dmz-link.opu.ua] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:12 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:13 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has joined #navit 13:21 -!- Slash-Me [53f33002@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.243.48.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:28 -!- tparcina [~tomo@cisco15.fesb.hr] has left #navit [] 14:46 -!- Slash-Me [53f33002@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.243.48.2] has joined #navit 14:46 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@190.131.183.143] has joined #navit 15:03 -!- tryagain [3e21ef82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.33.239.130] has joined #navit 15:03 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 15:04 < tryagain> cp15 ping 15:06 -!- mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3AF46.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:15 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:20 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 15:27 -!- Slash-Me [53f33002@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.243.48.2] has quit [] 15:40 -!- MockUp [4e3623b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.54.35.177] has joined #navit 15:42 < MockUp> Hi, with the new svn-version 4846 is the same problem: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0004eb50 in bookmarks_append_coord () 15:49 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 15:52 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:55 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:56 -!- hexlotar [~quassel@border-dmz-link.opu.ua] has joined #navit 15:58 -!- hexlotar [~quassel@border-dmz-link.opu.ua] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has joined #navit 16:18 -!- bogo10 [5dc2e7ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.194.231.173] has joined #navit 16:20 -!- Slash-Me [~SlashMe@p54AEA502.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 16:20 -!- Slash-Me [~SlashMe@p54AEA502.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30 < tryagain> cp15 if korrosa' robotic snake did not ate you please look here: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/917#comment:15 16:36 -!- tryagain is now known as tryagain|away 16:42 < bogo10> Hi all there 16:43 < bogo10> Is it possible to prevent navit to write to navit.log? 16:44 < bogo10> tried to comment the "debug" but writes further 16:45 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:47 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 17:07 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 17:08 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:33 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 17:36 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:37 -!- sera_ is now known as sera 17:42 -!- toer [~tore@179.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has joined #navit 18:04 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:08 -!- toer [~tore@179.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:09 -!- toer [~tore@179.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has joined #navit 18:17 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 18:21 < MockUp> Hi. I made a dump with strace navit. The last outputs are here http://pastebin.com/YVGiuazz 18:23 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD4768A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 18:23 < MockUp> It looks like a normal file read command. but by the command read the segmentation fault starts 18:32 < sleske> MockUp: Hi, I read your problem in the logs. 18:32 < MockUp> thanks 18:32 < MockUp> any ideas 18:33 < sleske> Have you been able to produce a backtrace ? 18:33 < MockUp> i must look how i do it 18:34 < MockUp> is backtrace like strace a program to debug? 18:37 < sleske> No, a backtrace is a special output from gdb. It's the call stack (i.e. which functions where running) when the program crashed. 18:37 < sleske> I just tried: If navit segfaults on my Linux system, I automatically get a stacktrace. 18:38 < sleske> Ah, found it: You can set it in navit.xml. 18:38 < MockUp> ok, but my problem is, that my linux is an self compiled one for an arm system, and this only writes segmentation fault 18:38 < sleske> Under , you must include: 18:38 < MockUp> ok i test it 18:38 < sleske> MockUp: Ah, I see. Can you install gdb on the target system? 18:39 < MockUp> yes gdb is installed on the System navit runs 18:40 < sleske> OK, then you should automatically get a backtrace on segfault if you put into your navit.xml. 18:40 < sleske> At least it works like that on my system (desktop Linux). 18:40 < MockUp> ok was a 0 18:40 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:40 < sleske> MockUp: I guess 0 means "no backtrace"... figures. 18:40 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 18:42 < MockUp> so gdb starts at the crash 18:43 < sleske> What output do you get? Or just the prompt? (would be: "(gdb")) 18:43 < sleske> If you get a prompt, just type "bt" 18:44 < MockUp> i must start new 18:44 < MockUp> no i get no promt 18:45 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: gringo 18:45 < sleske> MockUp: So, what's the output if it crashes? 18:46 -!- Netsplit over, joins: gringo 18:46 < MockUp> http://pastebin.com/YDnvgRkT 18:47 < MockUp> where are the debug symbols 18:48 < MockUp> is it a file, that i must copy to the target? 18:49 < sleske> No, debug symbols are special debug information. It's embedded in the navit binary - or not, in your case. 18:49 < sleske> You must compile in debug mode to get debug symbols. 18:49 < sleske> Can you rebuild your navit? 18:49 < MockUp> Is there a special command at configure time to set it up 18:49 < MockUp> yes 18:49 < sleske> MockUp: Exactly. 18:51 < sleske> Just a moment... 18:52 < MockUp> must i use the compiler flags? i wait 18:53 < MockUp> -ggdb http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Debugging-Options.html ? 18:56 -!- tryagain|away [3e21ef82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.33.239.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:57 < sleske> MockUp: Yes, that's it. 18:57 < sleske> I think you need to type: 18:57 < MockUp> oh this is good, my system produces more than the normal output to compile 18:57 < sleske> CFLAGS="-ggdb -O0" ./configure 18:57 < sleske> with quotes & everything 18:58 < sleske> then "make" as usually 19:00 < MockUp> yes i copy it to the target 19:04 < MockUp> so navit has debug symbols in it, but i get no promt 19:04 < MockUp> the rest is the same like without 19:05 < sleske> MockUp: Funny... well, I'll have a look at what you pastebin-ned. 19:05 < MockUp> gdb says reading the symbols form navit, and the rest are symbol free 19:06 < sleske> Weird...hm, maybe it's somehow system-specific. 19:06 < MockUp> or needs gdb the libthread_db 19:06 < sleske> Afraid I can't help, I don't know enough about gdb. On my system I always get full stacktraces on crash. 19:07 < MockUp> ok 19:07 < MockUp> i will be test a litle bit 19:07 < MockUp> thanks for your time 19:08 -!- MockUp [4e3623b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.54.35.177] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:10 -!- woglinde [~heinold@78.52.65.158] has joined #navit 19:13 < sleske> woglinde: Hi! 19:17 < woglinde> hi sleske 19:23 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 19:39 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 19:40 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:40 -!- flaroche [~laroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:51 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@102.71.8.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 20:05 -!- flaroche [~laroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 20:08 -!- flaroche [~laroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:09 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@g230118228.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 20:12 -!- woglinde [~heinold@78.52.65.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:13 < sleske> woglinde_: Hi, can you tell me how I can get commit rights to SVN? 20:13 < sleske> Would be kind of handy, rather than submitting everything as tickets. 20:13 < sleske> Is there some process? 20:15 < woglinde_> ask cp15 20:15 < woglinde_> or write him an email 20:16 -!- panda81 [cff22602@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.242.38.2] has joined #navit 20:17 < sleske> woglinde_: Thanks. Well, I'll ask if once I've gotten in one or two more patches. 20:27 < sleske> woglinde_: And BTW, any hints on what's worth working on? 20:27 < sleske> I have a few ideas of my own, but if there's anything that needs doing, I wouldn't mind helping out. 20:27 < woglinde_> sorry I have not this much time at the moment for navit 20:27 < sleske> Is there anything specific? 20:29 < woglinde_> look yourself through the bugs 20:29 < woglinde_> any patch you want have to commit? 20:29 < Number6> An OS independent map downloader would be nice. I'm a lot like woglinde_, I don't have a lot of time at the moment for Navit 20:29 < woglinde_> hm I should aks cp15 to setup a jeniks server 20:30 < woglinde_> or number6 20:30 < woglinde_> setup a jenkins server 20:30 < woglinde_> which builds diffrent flavours other each commut 20:30 < woglinde_> ups commit 20:30 < sleske> woglinde_: Well, there's http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/955 20:31 < sleske> Jenkins server sounds like an interesting idea. 20:31 < Number6> woglinde_: It takes a half hour to compile all the different packages. Every commit wouldn't really work out 20:31 < sleske> I don't have a server though... I'll have to see whether I can organize something. 20:32 < sleske> Number6: Well, a nightly build should be enough. 20:32 < woglinde_> no 20:32 < woglinde_> even with nightly build you need to find out the bad commit 20:32 < woglinde_> so a jenkins its much better 20:33 < woglinde_> has more features 20:33 < woglinde_> sleske what you are using #include 20:33 < woglinde_> +for 20:34 < Number6> at the expense of time and CPU, woglinde_ 20:34 < Number6> CPU that could be used serving maps :-) 20:34 < woglinde_> sleske hm and please use glib function most of the time 20:34 < woglinde_> not the plain c 20:34 < woglinde_> strncpy 20:35 < woglinde_> for instnace 20:35 < sleske> woglinde_: Oops, good catch. I used an assert, but then took it out again; forgot taking out the #include. Just remove it. 20:35 < woglinde_> strcmp 20:36 < sleske> woglinde_: I'm kind of new to C; didn't know glib has something similar. 20:36 < woglinde_> hehe 20:36 < woglinde_> read the api 20:36 < sleske> woglinde_: Of course, feel free to correct the patch. Or if it's too much, just add a comment to trac, then I'll make a new patch. 20:36 < woglinde_> strcmp should not be used anyway 20:37 < woglinde_> I will make a comment 20:38 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:38 < woglinde_> hm wiki still borken 20:39 < woglinde_> so I cannt login 20:40 < sleske> woglinde_: Hm, wiki works fine for me; I'm logged in. 20:40 < woglinde_> ah 20:40 < woglinde_> works now 20:40 < woglinde_> yes had to edit the page again 20:40 < sleske> woglinde_: BTW, about strcmp: strcmp is used in many places in navit, I think I just copied it. 20:41 < sleske> Of course, I can always try to do better :-). 20:42 < woglinde_> hms what was the wiki login url for openid 20:42 < woglinde_> hm ah with user 20:42 < woglinde_> stupid wiki 20:43 < sleske> woglinde_: What's the good alternative to strcmp? Just, browsed the GLib docs, but didn't find anything. 20:44 < woglinde_> http://developer.gnome.org/glib/2.28/glib-String-Utility-Functions.html 20:45 < woglinde_> g_strcasecmp () 20:45 < woglinde_> maybee 20:45 < woglinde_> ups 20:45 < woglinde_> sorry 20:45 < woglinde_> I should readbetter 20:47 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47 < woglinde_> g_strcmp0 than 20:52 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.53] has joined #navit 20:56 < sleske> woglinde_: What's the advantage over strcmp? Is it that it does not choke on nullpointers? 20:58 < woglinde_> you use one api 20:58 < woglinde_> so you dont need to include string.h header 21:08 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:08 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 21:10 < sleske> woglinde_: OK, thanks. I'll keep it in mind & correct my patch. 21:10 < sleske> Good night! 21:10 -!- Prz_^ [~Prz_^@81-66-221-98.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #navit 21:10 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD4768A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:10 < woglinde_> nite sleske 21:19 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@102.71.8.109.rev.sfr.net] has left #navit [] 21:25 -!- rd [~rd@p57B497EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 21:26 -!- bogo10 [5dc2e7ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.194.231.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:29 -!- panda81 [cff22602@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.242.38.2] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:44 -!- flaroche [~laroche@dslb-178-007-203-148.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 21:44 -!- noradtux is now known as noradtux|away 21:44 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@g230118228.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: zapp] 21:51 -!- rd [~rd@p57B497EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 22:08 -!- onivan [c129b937@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.41.185.55] has joined #navit 22:09 < onivan> hello! Where can I download the Mineque's skin? 22:13 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3B3F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 22:35 -!- onivan [c129b937@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.41.185.55] has left #navit [] 22:36 -!- Prz_^ [~Prz_^@81-66-221-98.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:45 -!- Benja1972 [~sergei@102.71.8.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 22:51 -!- MockUp [4e3623b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.54.35.177] has joined #navit 22:54 < MockUp> Hi. I hope this information would be better. http://pastebin.com/GymcSVLS 22:54 < MockUp> I startet navit with "gdb navit", I get the segmantation fault and have the gdb promt 23:03 < MockUp> And now i know what you meen with backtrace. This is the output http://pastebin.com/HnYh1vEG 23:04 -!- Amorphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:05 < MockUp> This is the complete one http://pastebin.com/bKWDFuqE 23:07 < MockUp> I hope anybody could help me. This is the last 4846 svn-version. 23:09 -!- MockUp [4e3623b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.54.35.177] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:10 -!- kazer_ is now known as KaZeR 23:19 -!- Amorphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has joined #navit 23:45 -!- firespeaker [~jonathan@c-24-1-99-217.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #navit 23:45 < firespeaker> is there an abstracted [binary format] map display library? 23:46 < firespeaker> or is it built into navit? --- Log closed Wed Nov 09 00:00:44 2011