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07:53 < pbaxter> hi all
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14:07 < tntdynamight> Hi!
14:07 < tntdynamight> I have just been looking around the web for a while and haven't found a straight answer:
14:07 < tntdynamight> I have a question concerning makein GPS Tracks with Navit on Android
14:08 < tntdynamight> I just DL Navit from the Android market. Can I now DL the config file from another source, edit and save it to activate gps logging
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18:24 < xenos1984> hi everybody
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18:38 < borsten> hi there, i have a tablet with android 2.2 and gps. navit is working fine except the arrow constantly stays pointing north and the navigation assumes i am movin north all the time…
18:39 < borsten> i've tried different versions including nightly builds already, but the error is constantly there
18:43 < borsten> i don't get why navit does this… i don't have a compass so it should use the moving direction…
18:48 < xenos1984> are you sure that the arrow is really pointing north, or is it just pointing upward on your tablet? normally navit should turn the map, so that the upward direction on your tablet is not the same as the north direction
18:53 < borsten> it's constantly pointing north, because when i'm moving south the arrow moves backwards
18:54 < borsten> the main problem is not the arrow, but navit assumes that im moving into the roads in northern direction
18:55 < borsten> but when driving east or west you can imagine that this is not nice ^^
18:57 < borsten> and when navigation is going south and i'm correctly moving south it complaints i should make a 180 degree turn
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19:00 < AdIsHoR> hi
19:00 < AdIsHoR> :)
19:00 < xenos1984> this is indeed a bit strange... i've neven seen navit doing this
19:01 < xenos1984> which navit version are you using?
19:01 < AdIsHoR> latest
19:01 < xenos1984> hi AdIsHoR
19:01 < AdIsHoR> i'm n01...@ya
19:01 < AdIsHoR> hoo
19:01 < borsten> 0.5.0 4846 svn
19:01 < AdIsHoR> i've emailed you earlier
19:01 < AdIsHoR> with XL 350 TM
19:01 < xenos1984> ah, i see
19:02 < AdIsHoR> so I copied the dirs on my device and rebooted, but kept rebooting
19:02 < xenos1984> @AdIsHoR: i guess i have the solution for your rebooting problem - it's a rather common problem with some tomtom devices
19:02 < borsten> i havn't either, i was previously using navit on my netbook
19:03 < xenos1984> the problem is that they reboot when there are too many files on the internal flash memory
19:03 < AdIsHoR> ok, i'll let you finish your conersation if you want
19:03 < AdIsHoR> :-"
19:03 < AdIsHoR> could be that
19:03 < AdIsHoR> :))
19:03 < AdIsHoR> almost full
19:03 < AdIsHoR> let me delete de europe map
19:03 < AdIsHoR> i've backed it up
19:04 < xenos1984> it's not about the file size, it's rather the number of files
19:04 < AdIsHoR> oh
19:04 < xenos1984> so you better delete, for example, the unneeded icons from the navit/share/xpm directory
19:04 < xenos1984> such as unneeded country flags
19:04 < AdIsHoR> ok
19:05 < xenos1984> or black navigation arrows (unless you want to change the settings from white to black)
19:05 < borsten> xenos1984: do you know if navit is using additional sensors on android like g-sensors?
19:06 < xenos1984> borsten: this is what i was thinking about, but as far as i know, it uses only the gps data
19:06 < borsten> hum… ok
19:07 < xenos1984> but maybe your android uses some other data source to "correct" the gps data before navit can use it
19:07 < xenos1984> although this would surprise me a bit...
19:08 < xenos1984> could you configure navit to output an nmea dump (i.e. a dump of the raw gps data)?
19:08 < borsten> well, the gps data is really acurate and even with a concrete ceiling i still get a position… so it sounds possible
19:09 < borsten> um, not yet… i need a modificated navit.xml, right?
19:09 < xenos1984> it's similar with my tomtom go 910, which has an acceleration sensor
19:09 < xenos1984> yes
19:09 < borsten> ok, i'll have a try
19:10 < borsten> yes, i have an accelerator sensor too, but the direction doesn't change with the position of the tablet…
19:11 < AdIsHoR> how much would the whole europe map occupy?
19:11 < borsten> AdIsHoR: i think ~4 GB
19:11 < AdIsHoR> damn, this thing only has 2
19:11 < AdIsHoR> gb
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19:12 < borsten> should be enough for you country
19:12 < AdIsHoR> that's 140
19:12 < AdIsHoR> Mb
19:16 < AdIsHoR> deleted about 1500 files
19:16 < AdIsHoR> let's see
19:17 < xenos1984> great, that should work better
19:18 < AdIsHoR> ok, started up, but
19:18 < AdIsHoR> i've deleted my map
19:18 < AdIsHoR> and it says
19:18 < AdIsHoR> no maps found
19:18 < borsten> xenos1984: where can i find a default navit.xml that came with the apk?
19:19 < xenos1984> ah... so your tomtom software does not run without a map? i guess that's some kind of license security mechanism... in this case you need to put the map back onto your device
19:20 < xenos1984> borsten: honestly, i don't know about the directory structure of android devices and where to find anything in the apk... but some people in here should know this
19:21 < AdIsHoR> damn no sdcard device
19:21 < AdIsHoR> :))
19:21 < borsten> hm, ok…
19:22 < xenos1984> borsten: this might help you: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Navit_on_Android#navit.xml
19:24 < borsten> xenos1984: thx, but it seems like there is no such directory, maybe because i'm not root
19:24 < xenos1984> hm... that's possible...
19:29 < AdIsHoR> takes ages to copy back
19:29 < AdIsHoR> :(
19:36 < AdIsHoR> ok
19:36 < AdIsHoR> booted up
19:36 < AdIsHoR> where do I find the navit icon?
19:36 < xenos1984> great :) it should be somewhere in the main menu, probably on the last page
19:39 < AdIsHoR> nope
19:39 < AdIsHoR> no main menu
19:40 < xenos1984> hm... strange... so it seems the tomtom software on the xl 350 looks rather different from the one i know...
19:41 < AdIsHoR> pf
19:41 < AdIsHoR> damn thing
19:42 < AdIsHoR> yeah, but i think it installed the map
19:42 < AdIsHoR> i mean the app
19:43 < xenos1984> it seems that tomtom is now using a new menu called "easymenu": http://www.tomtomforums.com/tomtom-one-start-ease-xl-xxl/22302-how-get-more-menu-options-models-easymenu.html
19:44 < AdIsHoR> oh
19:44 < AdIsHoR> I see
19:45 < AdIsHoR> but tomorrow, this is the 3rd day wasted with this, I'm going to eat smth
19:45 < AdIsHoR> thanks for all the help
19:45 < AdIsHoR> have a nice evening
19:46 < xenos1984> you're welcome!
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20:38 < Number6> Is cp15 on vacation?
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21:25 < CIA-91> mdankov * r4847 /trunk/navit/navit/ (7 files): Fix:gui_internal:Do not allow duplicate entries in the list of former destinations. Fixes #955. Thank you sleske.
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