--- Log opened Thu Nov 24 00:00:44 2011 01:36 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3AF62.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 01:40 -!- mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3AF48.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:02 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:4e36:1204::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:09 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:37af::1] has joined #navit 03:09 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 03:29 -!- cp15` [usiqtq@p57B1CA92.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:29 -!- cp15 [cvbaje@p57B1CCF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:29 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:29 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 03:50 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3AF62.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:04 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3AB55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 04:07 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@190.131.183.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:43 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 06:43 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 06:46 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:46 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:24 -!- kondrat1206 [~kondrat12@178.158.198.87] has quit [Quit: QIP Infium IRC protocol->http://forum.qip.ru] 07:29 -!- sera_ is now known as sera 07:51 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 08:01 -!- kondrat1206 [~kondrat12@94.158.82.8] has joined #navit 08:08 -!- e8johan [~e8johan@194.237.7.146] has joined #navit 08:26 -!- pbaxter [~pbaxter@host204-159-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #navit 09:25 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:27 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 09:38 -!- hexlotar [~quassel@border-dmz-link.opu.ua] has joined #navit 09:38 < hexlotar> good time of day 09:41 < Number6> Morning, hexlotar 11:08 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11 <@cp15> Number6, no, he isn't. Just quite busy 12:17 < Number6> A good complaint, cp15. I would hope :-) 12:47 -!- hexlotar [~quassel@border-dmz-link.opu.ua] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08 -!- e8johan [~e8johan@194.237.7.146] has left #navit [] 14:25 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 14:28 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:45 -!- kondrat1206 [~kondrat12@94.158.82.8] has quit [Quit: QIP Infium IRC protocol->http://forum.qip.ru] 15:27 -!- UukGoblin [~jaa@unaffiliated/uukgoblin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27 -!- UukGoblin [~jaa@yatima.uukgoblin.net] has joined #navit 15:50 -!- pbaxter [~pbaxter@host204-159-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:55 -!- UukGoblin [~jaa@yatima.uukgoblin.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:55 -!- UukGoblin [~jaa@unaffiliated/uukgoblin] has joined #navit 16:33 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:37af::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:34 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:37af::1] has joined #navit 16:34 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 16:51 -!- tryagain [d9765f8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.118.95.138] has joined #navit 16:56 -!- tryagain [d9765f8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.118.95.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:58 -!- tryagain [d9765f8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.118.95.138] has joined #navit 16:59 < tryagain> Number6 Hi 17:01 < tryagain> Does anybody know what are chances to have binding/[dbus|python] stuff working on WinCE? 17:16 -!- Slash-Me [~SlashMe@p54AECCAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 17:18 < Slash-Me> hi 17:19 < Slash-Me> is it possible to get admin rights in the wiki? I marked a lot of edits and users as spam, but I think it would be better if they were deleted 17:19 < Slash-Me> (see http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Category:Candidates_for_deletion) 17:38 -!- tryagain [d9765f8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.118.95.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:05 < Number6> Slash-Me: Korossa is the man to have a talk to 18:05 < Number6> If you say his name 3 times, you can usually summon him 18:05 < Number6> * Please note, he will take your first born child 18:08 < Slash-Me> i'll take the risk... :-D 18:08 < Slash-Me> korrosa korrosa korrosa 18:08 < Slash-Me> So, how long does it take? 18:12 < Number6> Time will tell :-) 18:42 -!- korrosa [~netbook@host-78-148-156-9.as13285.net] has joined #navit 18:42 < korrosa> I HAVE ALL THE BABIES!!! 18:44 < korrosa> To clear up one misconception: I do not have the rights on the wiki to make people admin. Only cp15 can do that. 18:45 < korrosa> We've had an absolute deluge of spam in the last few weeks. It's pretty impressive. But actually useless, because 99% is new pages, which don't link from anywhere. 18:45 < korrosa> After first being against the idea, I think 18:45 < korrosa> whoops, scratch that ^ 18:46 < korrosa> I will get to cleaning it up, but it is seriously boring work. 18:47 < korrosa> It's also easier if the spam pages are left alone, because then I can delete them in 3 clicks, instead of 4. Over 100 pages of spam, that's an extra 100 clicks! 18:47 < korrosa> Of course, if actual real wiki pages are being spammed, do remove them! 18:47 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 18:51 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:05 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD4663A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 19:06 -!- tryagain [d9962abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.150.42.187] has joined #navit 19:30 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 19:38 < sleske> tryagain: Hi! 19:38 < tryagain> hi sleske 19:38 < sleske> Thanks for applying my patch. Now I'll try to find something new and interesting... 19:38 < sleske> tryagain: Any idea what also needs work? 19:39 < tryagain> hm... I'm creating a new ticket right now. And updated a few recently :) 19:40 < tryagain> sleske http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/970 19:40 < sleske> Thanks, I'll have a look. 19:43 < sleske> About Ticket 970: Interesting problem. 19:44 < sleske> However, I can't really see the motivation. Why would you want to remote-control navit on Windows CE? 19:46 < tryagain> I met a person queried about controlling navit on WinCE. He's making a taxi dispatching system and want to use navit to automatically build the route for the driver by remote command. 19:46 < sleske> Ah, so it's for integration with 3rd party software. I see. Hm... 19:47 < sleske> Can't really say a lot about WinCE. I have no experience with it. 19:49 < sleske> As a general idea: The textfile thing seems a bit clunky. You have to worry about cleaning them up, synchronisation, you have to poll etc. 19:49 < sleske> Have you considered just opening some kind of network socket / pipe / whatever WinCE has to communicate? 19:49 < sleske> I believe gpsd does something like that. 19:50 < sleske> Just looked it up: Yes, gpsd just opens a regular network socket (locally), and listens for commands. 19:50 < tryagain> If we use a network socket then we're going to deal with security (if not use 127.0.0.1 address to bind to) 19:51 < tryagain> Also that way we come to reinvent dbus :) 19:51 < sleske> tryagain: Of course you'd bind to localhost. However, this assumes networking support. Might not exist on all embedded platforms, dunno... 19:51 < sleske> tryagain: I thought we had already established that we must reinvent dbus, 'cause it's not available on WinCE ;-) 19:52 < tryagain> Well WinCE is a class of OSes, indeed. There seems to be no part of WinCE API warranted to be on every system. OEM decides to include or not each API component. 19:53 < sleske> tryagain: Hm, challenging problem. May just do it for Android only :-). 19:53 < sleske> tryagain: Anyway, can I ask you something about Navit's translations? I need to change a few strings. 19:54 < sleske> The strings changes will mean that the .po files must changes as well. However, the changes don't change meaning, so the .po files should really be simply changed in parallel. 19:55 < sleske> However, I've not found a way to make gettext do this for me. What is the best solution? 19:56 < tryagain> Why don't just edit all files in parallel? 19:58 < sleske> tryagain: Yes, I considered that. However, I'd also need to duplicate some entries (because the old string still remains in some places). 19:59 < sleske> Also, I don't know what the right ordering for the .po files is. Or is the order of the message entries irrelevant? 20:01 < tryagain> If your change doesnt change meaning (you probably are fixing some mistype in msgid?), then why do you leave unfixed string somewhere? 20:02 < tryagain> I indeed never edited po files but looking at its structure i'd say ordering is irrelevant. 20:06 < sleske> tryagain: I am introducing mnemonics for the GTK menus. That means introducing underlines into the menu strings (Quit -> _Quit, Restart -> Re_start etc.). However, the same strings are sometimes also used by other parts of Navit, which of course do not change. 20:07 < sleske> But if you say the .po files have no specific order, it's probably best to just script the change. I'll see... 20:10 < sleske> Well, gotta go now. Good night! 20:10 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD4663A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:10 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14 -!- tryagain [d9962abb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.150.42.187] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:31 -!- Slash-Me [~SlashMe@p54AECCAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:31 -!- woglinde [~woglinde@g229047224.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 20:45 -!- Slash-Me [~SlashMe@p54AEBE28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 21:13 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-120-18.w92-156.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 21:17 -!- pbaxter [~pbaxter@host204-159-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #navit 21:34 -!- pbaxter [~pbaxter@host204-159-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:48 -!- pbaxter [~pbaxter@host157-130-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #navit 21:51 -!- Slash-Me [~SlashMe@p54AEBE28.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #navit [] 22:04 -!- bzed [~bzed@devel.recluse.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04 -!- bzed [~bzed@devel.recluse.de] has joined #navit 22:05 -!- korrosa [~netbook@host-78-148-156-9.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:33 -!- MrStein [~stein@93-103-187-9.dynamic.t-2.net] has joined #navit 22:34 < MrStein> Hi! I installed navit on my Android phone (from market). How to navigate in the very long "download first map" menu? It is not sorted. Is there some search function? 22:35 < woglinde> unfornatly not 22:37 < MrStein> Is there an list (on the web) of the available maps? So at least I can check if the one I need is available at all 22:43 < woglinde> maps.navit-project.or 22:43 < woglinde> g 22:43 < MrStein> yeah, I found it 22:43 < MrStein> thanks 22:58 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3AB55.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05 -!- MrStein [~stein@93-103-187-9.dynamic.t-2.net] has left #navit [] 23:08 -!- woglinde [~woglinde@g229047224.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: zapp] 23:13 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: UukGoblin, Earthwings, ThomasAH, pbaxter, playya_, @cp15, Mineque, @Horwitz, niekie, gringo, (+15 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:14 -!- Netsplit over, joins: bzed, pbaxter, Dark_Ebola, playya_, noradtux, UukGoblin, @cp15, @Horwitz, Mineque, niekie (+9 more) 23:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Morphous, fasta 23:15 -!- Morphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: udovdh, sera, toer, ColdFyre 23:29 -!- Morphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has joined #navit --- Log closed Fri Nov 25 00:00:44 2011