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07:51 < dandor> cp15 ping
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14:24 < CIA-83> tegzed * r4855 /trunk/navit/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal.c: Fix:gui/internal:added NULL check to avoid crash in street search dialog. Fixes ticket #973
14:38 < Mike1> is it possible to make townnames smaller the more I zoom out?
14:39 < Mike1> I kinda like to have many town names on screen
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14:42 < dandor> I think it is possible but I never tried
14:43 < dandor> i think you can have several itemgra entries for the same item type with different zoom levels
14:44 < dandor> you already can find examples for this in the current xml
14:44 < dandor> for example:
14:45 < dandor>                                 <itemgra item_types="town_label_2e3" order="8">
14:45 < dandor>                                         <circle color="#000000" radius="3" text_size="7"/>
14:45 < dandor>                                 </itemgra>
14:45 < dandor> and
14:45 < dandor>                                 <itemgra item_types="town_label_2e3" order="9-">
14:45 < dandor>                                         <circle color="#000000" radius="3" text_size="10"/>
14:45 < dandor>                                 </itemgra>
14:46 < dandor> first sets text sze=7 for zoom level 8
14:47 < dandor> the second sets text size=10 for zoom levels greater or equal than 9
14:47 < Mike1> ah, nice
14:49 < Mike1> aaand, I want to create a button to toggle centering of the current position (i.e. to have a look around and see if Navit has found a proper route)
14:50 < Mike1> what value for 'command="timeout=foo"' do I need for an infinite time?
14:50 < Mike1> or is there a better way?
14:50 < dandor> moment i need to check it
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15:04 < Mike1> mmmhhh, why does 'command="timeout=timeout==4?99:4"' not work to toggle between 4 and 99 seconds? It always sets 4 seconds
15:09 < dandor> i think this is a write only parameter
15:09 < dandor> you need to store its value yourself
15:10 < dandor> you cannot use its value on the right hand side
15:11 < dandor> it will result in 0 i guess
15:11 < dandor> that's why it sets to 4 always
15:12 < dandor> you can use set_int_var() and get_int_var() to store and retrieve the value
15:12 < dandor> see http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD
15:15 < dandor> you need something like this(but haven't checked): set_int_var("TO_VAR", get_int_var("TO_VAR")==4 ? 99 : 4 ) ;  timeout =  get_int_var("TO_VAR")
15:23 < Mike1> looks like it needs &quot; instead of the " in braces
15:23 < dandor> you can use '  ' in the command and "  " inside the command
15:24 < dandor> Eg:  command = ' set_int_var("TO_VAR", get_int_var("TO_VAR")==4 ? 99 : 4 ) ;  timeout =  get_int_var("TO_VAR")'
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15:26 < Mike1> oh, great :)
15:27 < dandor> :)
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15:44 < Mike1> is there a way to make Navit render more smoothly?
15:46 < dandor> currently graphics is only updated on gps updates from your device, so the answer is no :)
15:57 < Mike1> actually I mean the way the graphics are (not) filtered
15:57 < Mike1> it looks so pixelated
15:59 < Mike1> aliasing everywhere
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16:51 < Number6> Mike1: What platform?
16:52 < Mike1> Number6: Linux
16:54 < Number6> Mike1: Yeah, it's a bit pixilated. Hopefully in a few months we'll have a different rendering engine, that will be cross platform
16:55 < Number6> As it currently is, the graphics are very lightweight and this does lead to pixilation, but it ensures that Navit can be cross compiled easily to other platforms like the iPhone, WinCE, Windows, Linux, et
16:55 < Number6> *etc
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16:56 < Mike1> Number6: okay =(
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17:06 < Mike1> Number6: why can you not use Mapnik? TangoGPS and OSM and all who use it look great
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17:21 < Mike1> btw: It’s still not possible to set intermediate points for routes :(
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18:55 < Number6> dandor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWBy6J5gz8&feature=related :-)
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20:05 < Mike1> what does the „5e0“ in „town_label_5e0“ mean?
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20:07 < Mike1> some are listed here: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuring_Navit/map_items
20:08 < Mike1> is it just a convertion from town, village etc. to some obscure names?
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20:19 < dandor> Number6, efficient algo, great music :D
20:20 < Number6> Quicksort isn't effecient if they list is already nearly sorted, dandor :-)
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20:21 < Number6> Bubble sort would be quicker!
20:23 < dandor> no problem, there is a bubble sort version also on youtube ;)
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21:14 < korrosa> whaaaassuuuuuup!!
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21:14 < korrosa> Could someone *please* commit sleske's patch at #206 - the poor guy's gonna have commitment issues soon!
21:15 < korrosa> I'd do it, but it's large and I don't understand it!
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21:16 < sleske> korrosa: Hey, thanks!
21:17 < sleske> And BTW, if there's anything you don't understand, just ask. Sometimes I manage to explain what I do...
21:17 < korrosa> Mike1: To answer your point about using Mapnik - those are tiles, but Navit uses vector data. This means Navit can render the map on the fly, at any zoom level. No internet connection is needed. For TangoGPS et al, Mapnik tiles must be downloaded, either on the fly, or cached beforehand. For some, this is a pain in the arse.
21:18 < korrosa> sleske: It'd be lost on me. I'm not a real life coder, and only tend to commit quick fixes to the UI and xml.
21:18 < Mike1> korrosa: mhhh, okay
21:19 < sleske> I'm not sure what a real-life coder is (and if I'm one), but my patch actually is just a quick fix.
21:19 < sleske> It's just a bit long, because of all the translation fixes...
21:19 < korrosa> dandor: #206 worked fine for you? Number6: Could you quickly scan it? I'll commit....
21:20 < dandor> i tested the gui gtk part
21:20 < dandor> it worked ok
21:20 < dandor> i haven't checked the translations
21:21 < Number6> korrosa: Give me a few minutes :-)
21:21 < korrosa> 1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississippi......
21:32 < korrosa> OK, got to go, but sleske I'll commit your patch when I'm next back.
21:33 < korrosa> Also, I'd recommend someone suggest to cp15 next time he's on to give sleske commit rights.
21:34 < Number6> Bah, I was just about to say that it (Haven't looked at the translations) looks fine
21:36 < sleske> korrosa: Thanks again. I've already asked cp15 by mail about commit access, but haven't heard anything. I guess he's busy.
21:36 < sleske> Anyway, I'm off to bed now. Good night!
21:37 < Number6> He's been busy the last few weeks. Which is a good sign
21:37 < Number6> Be good, sleske
21:37 < sleske> Number6: Good sign? Why?
21:37 < sleske> Anyway, I'm off now. I'll read the logs tomorrow.
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21:38 < Number6> sleske: It means he'll have oney to buy us presents for Christmas :-)
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21:38 < korrosa> You'll get your candy after all 6!
21:39 < Number6> My boss has already gotten me a Toberlone after the fire in the data center on Friday
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23:14 < CIA-83> martin-s * r4856 /trunk/navit/navit/gui.c: Fix:Core:Don't crash on right click with no gui
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23:15 < CIA-83> martin-s * r4857 /trunk/navit/navit/navigation.c: Fix:Core:Handle multiple calls to navigation_set_route correctly
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23:22 < Number6> He lives!
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