--- Log opened Fri Dec 16 00:00:44 2011 00:07 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-87-46.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me] 01:50 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-188-105-197-004.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 01:52 -!- flaroche [~laroche@dslb-094-216-134-059.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:30 -!- cp15` [ntknec@p57B1CCCE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:30 -!- cp15 [qeedve@p57B1CCF8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:30 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:30 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 03:49 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:52 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has joined #navit 05:27 -!- ricky26 [~quassel@80.83.125.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:25 -!- mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:26 -!- ricky26 [~quassel@80.83.125.94] has joined #navit 06:50 -!- sera_ is now known as sera 08:13 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 08:36 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4930C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 09:32 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4930C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 09:32 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4930C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 10:05 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-87-46.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 10:15 -!- tavin [6d00136e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.0.19.110] has joined #navit 10:16 < tavin> hello 10:17 < tavin> excuse me i would like to get current position or layout or destination from navit via DBus. The command "get_attr" is reply nothing 10:17 < tavin> do you know how to get this data from dbus? 10:17 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4930C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 10:17 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4930C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 10:54 -!- jongleur [~jongleur@eduroam-61-100.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #navit 10:57 -!- symeo [~noke@p5B36E7CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 11:01 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21 -!- jongleur1 [~jongleur@eduroam-61-100.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #navit 11:21 -!- jongleur1 [~jongleur@eduroam-61-100.uni-paderborn.de] has left #navit [] 11:21 -!- jongleur [~jongleur@eduroam-61-100.uni-paderborn.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:53 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has joined #navit 12:59 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-87-46.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:04 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-160-88.w109-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 13:06 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has joined #navit 13:47 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 13:54 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:30 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 14:37 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:50 < tavin> hi is there someone here? 15:05 -!- Mike1 [~Michael@91-113-9-126.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #navit 15:10 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 15:17 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:20 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 15:20 < Number6> tavin: No one here but us bees :-) 15:23 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 15:26 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 15:30 < CIA-83> woglinde * r4860 /trunk/navit/navit/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Fix:xpm: replace unknown.xpm with nicer unknown.svg, had to edit the svg to set non float width and height to make rsvg happy, closes ticket #976, thanks to sleske 15:49 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 15:58 -!- tryagain [529762b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.98.182] has joined #navit 16:00 < tryagain> woglinde Why do you use both svg and png version of unknown in r4860? 16:04 -!- [AndyX] [~user@pD9E34C49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 16:04 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4930C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:04 < [AndyX]> Nabend 16:08 < tryagain> cp15 can you please answer to my monologue at http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/917 16:15 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18 -!- tavin [6d00136e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.0.19.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:26 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4930C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 16:28 -!- tryagain [529762b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.98.182] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:31 -!- [AndyX] [~user@pD9E34C49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #navit [] 16:31 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 16:59 -!- toer [~tore@179.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:00 -!- toer [~tore@179.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has joined #navit 17:04 -!- toer [~tore@179.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:08 -!- HinzundKunz [~quassel@62-47-52-110.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #navit 17:09 < HinzundKunz> Hi everyone! 17:09 < HinzundKunz> I'd like to ask for help with navit. It complains about gps data coming in too fast, but it's all set o.k. 17:10 < HinzundKunz> Windows CE 4.2 device (Sony nav-u92tc) 17:10 -!- mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 17:10 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12 < HinzundKunz> gps chip is set to 4800 baud nmea, gpstweaker can see work with it. 17:12 < HinzundKunz> Navit is 0.5.0 (downloaded a few days ago). 17:12 < HinzundKunz> Any help? 17:16 -!- HinzundKunz [~quassel@62-47-52-110.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 17:32 -!- toer [~tore@179.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has joined #navit 17:47 -!- mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:48 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 17:49 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229045197.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 18:05 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@mnch-4d046358.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #navit 18:24 -!- dust_ [d5c00a01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.192.10.1] has joined #navit 18:28 -!- dust_ [d5c00a01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.192.10.1] has left #navit [] 18:32 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@mnch-4d046358.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:43 < woglinde> *sigh* 18:43 < woglinde> cmake and multilib support 18:46 -!- Mike1_ [~Michael@91-113-11-188.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #navit 18:46 -!- Mike1 [~Michael@91-113-9-126.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:46 -!- Mike1_ is now known as Mike1 18:49 < CIA-83> woglinde * r4861 /trunk/navit/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal.c: Fix:gui_internal:Revert "back behaviour" in internal gui introduced accidently by rev 4860, because it needs to be discussed 19:22 -!- symeo [~noke@p5B36E7CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:41 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 19:42 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:47 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@f052229188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 19:49 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229045197.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:16 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 20:19 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:22 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-113-191.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 20:27 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-113-191.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:33 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37 -!- korrosa [~korrosa@host-2-96-91-145.as13285.net] has joined #navit 20:38 < korrosa> Evening all! 20:39 < Number6> Evening, boss 20:41 < korrosa> Just got myself an Android thingy! Should really install Navit on it soon... 20:41 < woglinde_> *g* 20:41 < woglinde_> zanavi 20:42 < woglinde_> hi number6 and korrosa 20:43 < Number6> Hi woglinde_ 20:46 < korrosa> Lol! The first thing I wanna try is the latest apk - perhaps I could even start deving for it... :s 20:47 < Number6> It's Java, and Eclipse ist gut 20:49 < korrosa> Danke. Not looked yet - is that unix software? 20:50 < woglinde_> lol 20:50 < woglinde_> your crazy guys 20:51 < Number6> korrosa: It's an IDE. Imagine notepad / vim / gedit on crack cocaine 20:52 < korrosa> Oh, I know that much - just wondered if it was Windows only 20:52 < Number6> I rarely use it on Linux, as it eats memory. But to find a function declaration, or where a function is called in an entire program 20:52 < Number6> Nah, it should be in the Ubuntu repos. It is in SuSE 20:52 < woglinde_> hm 20:52 < woglinde_> packaging eclipse suckz 20:53 < woglinde_> thats why the debian maintainer gave up 20:53 < Number6> Speak of SuSE, I submitted a bug report for a random packafe to the maintainer today... The maintainer was sitting 4 desks in front of me. Talk about random :-) 20:54 < woglinde_> lol 20:54 < Number6> woglinde_: Is there not the Jarfile? That's what I use, the CDT version 20:55 -!- gianko [4f13e849@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.19.232.73] has joined #navit 20:55 < woglinde_> I know eclipse 20:55 < woglinde_> number6 take a look at yoxos 20:55 < woglinde_> its a starter for eclipse with diffrent profiles 20:56 * gianko greet everybody in the room 20:56 < Number6> Does it do the function declaration tracking and declarations? That's *ALL* I use Eclipse for. I'd much rather Anjuta 20:56 < Number6> Hi gianko 20:56 < woglinde_> its only a starter 20:57 < woglinde_> but you can select the plugins you want to use with diffrent profiles 20:58 < gianko> Hi 20:58 < efess> If you're doing java development, try this out: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/ 20:58 < efess> I found it much easier to use than eclipse 20:58 < efess> although I used it on windows, they have a linux version too 21:01 < gianko> maybe i found a bug. using openstreetmap maps, when searching for a street, all the streets with access=private are excluded so is not possible to find these streets. 21:02 < korrosa> That's probably a feature... 21:02 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 21:02 < korrosa> efess thanks for the link 21:02 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:09 < gianko> im using Navit on Nokia N900/maemo. is the same for other platform? no streets with the tag access=private in the search results? 21:09 < korrosa> gianko - should a private road be searchable? 21:09 < korrosa> I see no reason why it would be different on other platforms... 21:10 < Number6> korrosa: Are you on the Ubuntu machine? 21:10 < gianko> i'd like to. if i have to go to a friend living in a private street, how can i find the route? 21:11 < woglinde_> use a street near by 21:11 < woglinde_> thats how normal people doing it 21:11 < korrosa> Number6 - not right now. 21:11 < Number6> play -n -c1 synth whitenoise band -n 100 20 band -n 50 20 gain +25 fade h 1 864000 1 21:12 < Number6> Run that later. The engine sounds from the Enterprise will sooth you as you sleep 21:12 < korrosa> gianko if you know where it is on a map then you can set it as a bookmark.. 21:13 < gianko> i'd reather prefer something like the Garmin Nuvi1300, that uses openstreetmap maps compiled on navmaps.eu: a street with access=private is findable and if choosen as destination, the routing takes you on the nearest point without entering the street. 21:13 < woglinde_> we are open for patches 21:14 < korrosa> gianko unfortunately Navit can't do that. Your friend should move! 21:14 < korrosa> Number6 thanks!! 21:15 -!- gianko [4f13e849@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.19.232.73] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:17 < korrosa> Another successful unhappy customer. 21:17 -!- ebola_ [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-81-190.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 21:17 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-113-191.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 21:18 < korrosa> DANDOR! 21:18 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-160-88.w109-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:18 < woglinde_> hm he would be unhappy anyway 21:18 < woglinde_> hi dandor 21:19 < dandor> hi korrosa , hi woglinde_ 21:21 < Number6> Hi dandor 21:21 < dandor> hi Number6 21:21 < Mike1> is it good or bad for Navit if my GPS-device sends data every 0.25seconds? 21:22 < Mike1> since Navit recalculates every time it gets data … 21:22 < Number6> Mike1: Good :-) 21:23 < Number6> Route recalculation doesn't matter every .25 seconds, because it's only updated when you go off the route 21:23 < Mike1> Number6: but doesn’t it put more stress on the CPU, thus decreasing batterylife? 21:23 < korrosa> Every 0.25? What is it? 21:24 < Mike1> korrosa: a Navilock NL-402U 21:24 < Mike1> it only sends every 1sec per default 21:24 < Mike1> but you can go up to 8Hz afaik 21:25 -!- ebola__ [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-95-238.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 21:25 < Mike1> seems to be a pretty rare feature :) 21:25 -!- ebola_ [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-81-190.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:25 < Mike1> I’ve set mine to 4Hz 21:27 < korrosa> 8Hz? Bloody hell! I wonder if it interpolates? Sounds like some military grade stuff there! 21:28 < korrosa> Especially since I thought satellites only broadcast every 21:28 < korrosa> ...second. 21:30 < Mike1> how should it interpolate? It can’t predict the future 21:30 < Number6> Mike1: As far as I remember, the route is calculated once, and is only recalculated when something changes like going off route or changing destination 21:30 < Mike1> Number6: ooookay 21:32 < korrosa> Mike1 - it can, by looking at the past! 21:34 < Mike1> korrosa: mmmmhhh, yes 21:35 < Mike1> “Positions UP-DATE Rate: 4 Hz” 21:35 < korrosa> Navit can do it to - simply, it just extends your current trajectory. 21:38 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-113-191.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:46 < korrosa> Mike1 - had a look at the manual too. Can you confirm that it sends updates at 4hz? 21:47 < korrosa> Not sure what "UP-DATE Rate" refers to. 21:50 < Mike1> korrosa: that’s what i get when I poll gpsd at a 0.25sec interval — the data is changing 21:52 -!- rd [~rd@p57B4930C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:05 -!- korrosa [~korrosa@host-2-96-91-145.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:06 -!- korrosa [~korrosa@host-2-96-91-145.as13285.net] has joined #navit 22:07 < Number6> Hah. Making Navit with make -j on a system with 1024 processors, takes 0.1653 seconds :-) 22:07 < woglinde_> lol 22:08 < Number6> Can't wait to compile it on the new system, with 32k cores :-) 22:11 < Mike1> Number is all about numbers :> 22:12 < Number6> The joys of being a mathematician - I can make any number vanish. 22:13 < Number6> Irish people are rather good at that. Thankfully, the German people were kind enough to give us lots of money 22:13 < korrosa> Ah, history. 22:14 < Number6> Ye gave us lots of money as well, korrosa. 22:14 < Number6> So thanks :-) 22:15 < Mike1> if I have a track which is a member of a bicycleroute, will Navit recognize it as a bicycletrack? 22:15 < Mike1> because strangely it is routing me through a forest on some random grade4 track instead of the slightly longer grade2 bicycletrack 22:17 < korrosa> Mike1 - if you mean as part of a relationship, then no. 22:17 < korrosa> Relations aren't picked up by Navit. 22:19 < Number6> Was that not fixed? 22:20 -!- mase_76 [~mase76@p5DD3BCBD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 22:22 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@f052229188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: zapp] 22:23 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3A6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:25 < korrosa> Number6 - lots of talk, not so much fixing. 22:32 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@2001:4ca0:0:fe13::1] has joined #navit 22:49 < CIA-83> martin-s * r4862 /trunk/navit/navit/ (navigation.c navit.c): Fix:Core:Made navigation_unregister_callback more reasonable 22:50 < CIA-83> martin-s * r4863 /trunk/navit/navit/vehicle/demo/vehicle_demo.c: Fix:vehicle_demo:Free everything on destroy 23:08 -!- ebola__ [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-95-238.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me] 23:37 -!- Morphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:45 < curious> Mike1, bike routing has bugs 23:46 < curious> i've posted my fixed navit conf somewhere with fixed routing rules for bicycles, shortest, avoid traffic, etc. 23:47 < curious> i recall some roads were excluded, routing was done two way (!) i.e. it pushed you into one-way roads and lanes (which was damn dangerous) 23:47 < curious> and generally bicycle paths were low prio for some reason 23:50 < curious> Mike1, http://83.18.229.190/tmp/navit.xml here it is for reference 23:51 < Mike1> curious: thank you 23:52 < Mike1> i’ll have a look at it and see if i can test it, since i’ve traveled nearly all bicycleroutes in the area here 23:52 -!- Morphous [jan@unaffiliated/amorphous] has joined #navit 23:53 < curious> it's config for wince, so you have to extract (copy and paste) just vehicleprofile sections ofcourse 23:54 < Mike1> yes, i figured that 23:54 < curious> ok :) --- Log closed Sat Dec 17 00:00:44 2011