--- Log opened Sat Dec 17 00:00:44 2011
00:12 < Mike1> curious: is it possible to change vehicleprofiles while Navit is running?
00:13 < Mike1> or do I have to manually edit profilename="bicycle" all the time?
00:24 < Mike1> gotta go to bed, good night!
00:26 < Number6> Mike1: You can change profiles while running
00:27 < Number6> But it's not presistant (so bike becomes car again, on restart)
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08:52 < HinzundKunz> Hi everyone!
09:00 < HinzundKunz> Can someone help me with navit on my windows ce device?
09:21 < Mike1> somehow the Navit Wiki is flooded with spam :(
09:21 < Mike1> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Texas_Mesothelioma_Lawyers http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Student_Loan_-_What_Is_A_Bad_Credit_Personal_Loan%3F_16 http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Why_Cash_Advance_Online_is_Much_safer_and_Simpler_than_Usual_Loans
09:21 < Mike1> stuff like that …
09:29 < HinzundKunz> I would need help with navit on a windows ce device. Anyone around?
09:50 < drlizau> Mikel I've done a little bit about the spam but i think an admin needs to remove the pages altogether
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10:43 < HinzundKunz> I would need help with navit on a windows ce device. Anyone around?
10:46 < HinzundKunz> I removed a bit of spam, too while waiting...
10:47 < HinzundKunz> In detail, navit complains about gps data coming in too fast, although everything is set o.k.
10:48 < Mike1_> HinzundKunz: oh, you've allready asked some days ago, haven’t you?
10:48 < Mike1_> i’m sorry that i can’t help :(
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10:48 < HinzundKunz> yep, I asked, but had to leave before someone could answer...
10:48 < HinzundKunz> BTW, hello to my fellow Austrian
10:51 < HinzundKunz> Everything else works. It took a long time to figure out, though...
10:52 < HinzundKunz> Ah, one more thing - maybe you can help with that: trying to navigate crashes navit after some time. But that might be related to navit not being able to read the gps
10:53 < HinzundKunz> and i just saw that navit crashes when I try to enter a town name...
10:53 < Mike1> yeah, the search thing is kinda bugged
10:54 < Mike1> what version are you using?
10:55 < HinzundKunz> I downloaded navit-current a few days ago. The about says 0.5.0, but according to the website that must be wrong...
10:58 < HinzundKunz> I also can't choose another country, and because the system is us-only, navit thinks I'm in the US...
11:07 < Mike1> HinzundKunz: sometimes the search is kinda stuck for me, I have to close and open it then
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11:09 < HinzundKunz> no, no joy for me - no country flag. I fear trying to write as navit normally crashes then, and I have to reset the whole device...
11:10 < dandor> hi HinzundKunz
11:10 < HinzundKunz> Hi dandor
11:10 < dandor> about the crash during town search
11:10 < dandor> please see http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/973
11:11 < dandor> i committed a fix for this some days before
11:11 < dandor> maybe this will fix your problem also
11:11 < HinzundKunz> has that code made it into the wince version as well?
11:12 < dandor> i think so
11:12 < dandor> wince daily build should contain this also
11:12 < HinzundKunz> O.k., I'll give it a try and report back
11:12 < dandor> ok , thanks
11:12 < HinzundKunz> Oh by the way - has anything else changed or is it enough to just copy the new navit.exe?
11:13 < dandor> i think copying navit.exe is enough
11:26 < HinzundKunz> O.k., it doesn't crash any more. Thanks!
11:26 < dandor> HinzundKunz, cheers!
11:27 < HinzundKunz> BUT: it is set to US, but I'm in Europe...
11:27 < HinzundKunz> so it looks up American towns...
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11:27 < HinzundKunz> I don't really want to drive that far... ;-)
11:27 < dandor> try setting language attribute in your config tag
11:28 < HinzundKunz> I think the problem has to do with that the device only has US locale
11:28 < dandor> for hungary it is :
11:28 < dandor>  language="hu_HU"
11:28 < dandor> <config xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude" language="hu_HU" >
11:28 < HinzundKunz> Yea, I tried a few weeks ago, but I never really figure out where exactly to put that line in navit.xml
11:29 < dandor> there is only one config tag in your xml
11:29 < HinzundKunz> ah, there it goes!
11:29 < dandor> the root element
11:29 < dandor> yep
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11:31 < HinzundKunz> O.k., I'll try. It takes some time, though, as my device has to be done a hard reset and a full boot...
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11:33 < gianko> hi. im a new navit user
11:35 < gianko> im using navit with openstreetmap maps. i found out thar streets with the tag access=private are excluded when searching a street. can i fix this editing some .xml file or a patch is needed?
11:37 < HinzundKunz> @dandor: great, it works! Thank you very much!
11:39 < Mike1> gianko: i think you’d have to edit osm.c
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11:40 < HinzundKunz> I still would need help with that "gps data comes too fast" problem...
11:42 < woglinde> uhm
11:43 < HinzundKunz> the gps chip is set to nmea, 4800 baud, and navit sees it, but complains about too fast data. It also stays where it was and doesn't update the location. Sometimes it also complains about non nmea code.
11:43 < HinzundKunz> Probably because it misses some characters...
11:44 < HinzundKunz> CE monitor works well, so it doesn't seem to be a problem with the chip...
11:44 < HinzundKunz> Can navit work with higher baud rates as well?
11:45 < HinzundKunz> can navit work with sirf protocoll?
11:48 < woglinde> hm hm
11:48 < woglinde> maybee the nmea is wrong
11:48 < HinzundKunz> I found something that might be related: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/913 My device is a sony-nav-u92tc and has a sirfIII chip as well
11:48 < woglinde> or we have a problem in ther parser
11:49 < woglinde> HinzundKunz hm can you try it?
11:49 < woglinde> I dont have a ce device
11:49 < HinzundKunz> I looked at the nmea output (through sirftech and cemonitor) and it seems to be o.k.
11:49 < woglinde> and its a pitty he doesnt send a patch
11:50 < HinzundKunz> Sorry, I'm not a programmer at all...
11:50 < gianko> Mikel: any suggestions for a newbye on how to edit osm.c to make streets with tag access=private "findable"?
11:52 < HinzundKunz> gianko:that's programming, and if you don't know about it you probably better don't touch (I know that much...)
11:55 < woglinde> ginako static char *attrmap
11:56 < woglinde> in this list add it like other streets
11:56 < woglinde> hm
11:56 < woglinde> let me see again
11:56 < woglinde> hm access_value
11:56 < woglinde> seems more promising
12:00 < gianko> do u think it's not so difficult?
12:01 < woglinde> hm private is in
12:01 < woglinde> I see now
12:01 < woglinde> but thats only for you should not drive in
12:02 < woglinde> and should have nothing todo with search
12:03 < gianko> yes. i just want the private streets to be "findable". i can find the streets with access= destination and delivery but not private
12:04 < woglinde> strange
12:04 < woglinde> private has the same key
12:04 < woglinde> hm maybee its an error in the osm data than
12:06 < gianko> maybe is because is higway=service + access=private?
12:06 < woglinde> no relation stuff maybee
12:06 < woglinde> maybee its found in another town or so
12:06 < woglinde>  can you show me the osm data?
12:08 < gianko> strange because i tried to search different private streets in different areas/cities
12:08 < gianko> i just download a map .bin from navit planet extractor
12:09 < woglinde> hm okay so you have the latest
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12:11 < gianko> is it possible that private streets r not routable and so excluded from a search? i'd reather prefer something like the Garmin Nuvi1300, that uses openstreetmap maps compiled on navmaps.eu: a street with access=private is findable and if choosen as destination, the routing takes you on the nearest point without entering the street.
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12:20 < woglinde> gianko complaining it over and over again
12:20 < woglinde> gains nothing
12:21 < woglinde> try to change osm.c so private returns 1
12:21 < woglinde> and try again
12:22 < gianko> ok, thank u. can be seen a complain but i was just asking if is possible the same behaviour of the garmin on navit
12:22 < woglinde> navit is opensource
12:22 < woglinde> find one who make a patch
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12:26 < gianko> ok! im open source fan. and osm mapper ;)
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12:49 < Mike1> „navit:route_path_new:no route found, pos blocked“ what?
12:53 < Mike1> oh
12:53 < Mike1> maybe because I set a whole district as destination and that node is blocked
12:59 < curious> woglinde, dunno why you just not told him to use distortion,txt or similiar overlay with private roads marked as blocked (speed=0)
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13:02 < Mike1> curious: what’s distortion.txt?
13:13 < woglinde> curious he complained about searching
13:13 < woglinde> and I didnt saw how searching is made on access stuff
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13:25 < curious> woglinde, from what i understood he wants to find private streets, but wants to avoid riding through them
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13:36 < woglinde> curious yes and he finds streets with delivery and other access stuff which returns the same value in the code
13:40 < tryagain> woglinde hi
13:41 < woglinde> hi tryagain
13:42 < tryagain> your 4860 change made navit using unknown.svg by osd and unknown.png by navit.xml. Is it intended?
14:11 < tryagain> if i remember well, we have no runtime svg support on Win* platforms
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14:30 < woglinde> tryagain look at the other .svg
14:30 < woglinde> some lines above the unknow
14:31 < woglinde> they should fail too than
14:32 < woglinde> tryagain hm only transparency in osd might be a problem
14:32 < woglinde> but the svg from sleske looks many ways better than the xpm
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15:32 < korrosa> Well, I give up on the spam.
15:33 < korrosa> cp15 - I think perhaps disabling user registration might be a good idea...
15:35 < korrosa> ...just for the moment at least.
15:36 < woglinde> hm they cracked the spam protection?
15:38 < korrosa> There is no spam protection other than the captcha...
15:38 < woglinde> yes
15:38 < woglinde> thats what I mean
15:40 < korrosa> If it's a bot, then I guess the answer is yes. Though I think there's probably a backdoor...
15:40 < korrosa> There was last time, and the boss fixed it.
15:41 < korrosa> Must be something new.
15:41 -!- Mike1 [~Michael@chello062178145145.5.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #navit
15:41 < korrosa> Or, it's a real human with a lot of time!
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15:42 < zoff99> korrosa: ping
15:43 < zoff99> hi
15:43 < korrosa> zoff99 hi
15:43 < zoff99> so u finally got an android phone :)
15:43 < woglinde> hi zoff
15:44 < zoff99> hi woglinde
15:44 < korrosa> Hell yes!
15:44 < zoff99> which one?
15:47 < korrosa> Galaxy SII
15:47 < korrosa> Don't rob me!
15:47 < zoff99> good choice
15:47 < zoff99> u try my *evil* software aswell?
15:48 < korrosa> Not yet - waiting on a SD card to arrive.
15:48 < woglinde> uhm
15:48 < woglinde> lol
15:48 < zoff99> why?
15:48 < zoff99> it has one inside , dude
15:48 < zoff99> RTFM :)
15:49 < woglinde> hm on my lg /dev has 86 mb
15:49 < woglinde> thats really sad
15:49 < woglinde> in default configuration
15:49 < korrosa> For maps. Mine didn't come with one - only the internal one.
15:49 < zoff99> yeah so?
15:49 < zoff99> internal has i think 8gb or more
15:49 < woglinde> mine has 2 gig
15:49 < woglinde> even thats enough
15:52 < korrosa> I think this thing's got 16GB. Of course it's enough, but I wanna use an external card which I can use on my netbook too. Less downloading as I'm capped at home.
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15:52 < zoff99> thats u reason why u dont try navit? good lord
15:53 < korrosa> And anyway, far too many other things to try!
15:53 < zoff99> u british are such scardycats
15:53 < korrosa> Certainly when it's raining!
15:57 < korrosa> zoff99 what's the main diff between the evil and the angelic versions?
15:57 < zoff99> see for yourself , you know i am evil, i might tell a lie :)
15:58 < korrosa> Lol!
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15:59 < zoff99> but it will make your teeth and hair fall out
15:59 < korrosa> A week or so ago someone came in here warning us about your donate version! Made me chuckle!
15:59 < zoff99> there is a little bit of hell compiled in with every version you know
16:00 < korrosa> Is it covering hosting costs?
16:00 < zoff99> yeah, i got some searious heat from "weltbild" , just funny
16:00 < zoff99> no :)
16:00 < zoff99> does navit have real sponsors?
16:01 < korrosa> Not sure. cp15 has made money from it, but I doubt it keeps him fed!
16:02 < zoff99> well try it now, dude
16:02 < korrosa> What, feeding cp15?
16:03 < zoff99> not the evil and angel version
16:04 < zoff99> i mean try the evil and angel version, now!
16:04 < korrosa> I will try, I promise - and I'll do a comparison review... ;)
16:06 < zoff99> if u hate mine, then dont do the review :)
16:06 < zoff99> hi hi
16:06 < korrosa> Ha! I may even learn Java and fork yours...
16:07 < zoff99> fork off :)
16:07 < zoff99> and then i fork your again
16:08 < korrosa> Forks all the way down. Are you pulling in updates from this Navit?
16:09 < korrosa> I guess it gets more difficult with time.
16:20 < zoff99> not so much
16:22 < zoff99> why did you let launchpad translations die? thats really one of the more stupid things
16:22 < zoff99> think u can keep 60 languages uptodate without it? :)
16:24 < zoff99> when will u try it? i know brits are orderly, but waiting that you phone get older , is just ridiculous :)
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16:34 < zoff99> korrosa: dead?
16:36 < korrosa> Just busy. Launched is an arse, mainly cos only kazer has access. I won't be trying Navit today - doing other stuff...
16:37 < zoff99> ok, just a notice: the evil version wont use the external SD anyway
16:37 < zoff99> because its evil, i guess
16:37 < zoff99> u dont need "access" to launchpad actually
16:39 < woglinde> hi sleske
16:41 < korrosa> zoff99 I was under the impression you did to pull into Navit src. I know anyone can edit.
16:42 < zoff99> hm? that sentence doesnt make sense
16:42 < zoff99> btw for your galaxy SII start here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
16:44 < zoff99> oops, ok no. you just need to download the tarball (anyone can do that) in launchpad
16:44 < zoff99> only if u need to add new strings then u need access
16:44 < zoff99> even for new langs. you dont need access
16:46 < woglinde> zoff I didnt found out how to get the po.in files from launchpad
16:46 < woglinde> and yes we need access to make new strings
16:46 < woglinde> there are lot of changes
16:46 < zoff99> u download the complete .tar file from launchpad
16:46 < woglinde> uhm
16:46 < woglinde> only complete tar
16:46 < zoff99> unpack in the po/ dir and the *.po files just need to be renamed to *.po.in
16:47 < zoff99> its what i do with *dont speak the name*
16:53 < korrosa> zoff99 has unlocked of secret - kill him.
16:54 < korrosa> s/of/our
16:58 < zoff99> you brits a just so funny
16:58 < zoff99> in london it took me 3 days to kill the urge to hurt people, they were just do damn orderly, my god! :)
16:59 < zoff99> waiting in line everywhere and beeing nice all the time
17:00 < korrosa> You're very welcome.
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17:19 < sleske> woglinde: Hi!
17:19 < sleske> Hi everyone!
17:20 < sleske> Are you talking about Launchpad?
17:20 < sleske> I had a look. I'm afraid there's no point in using it right now - at least when I looked, the translation templates were hopelessly outdated.
17:23 < sleske> Have a look at https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+templates
17:24 < sleske> You can see that the translation template (i.e. the original strings) where last updated a year ago.
17:24 < woglinde> zoff its only in england
17:24 < woglinde> when they are in germany the behave like germans
17:24 < sleske> So any translations you base on that will not work for the current Navit.
17:49 < woglinde> sleske yes I know it
17:50 < sleske> woglinde: So, are there any news on the launchpad situation?
17:50 < woglinde> no
17:50 < woglinde> I need to write kazer
17:56 < sleske> BTW, anyone knows how to reach cp15?
17:57 < sleske> I tried writing to cp15@navit-project.org two weeks ago (twice), but no reply.
17:57 < sleske> And I never see him on IRC.
17:59 < Number6> He's still alive. He commited last night
18:00 < Number6> Last I spoke with him, he was very busy doing other things
18:00 < woglinde> number6 hm
18:00 < woglinde> when was it
18:00 < woglinde> mid nov?
18:01 < Number6> Late November.
18:01 < woglinde> yes
18:01 < Number6> Being busy is a good complaint. Means he'll have money to uy us sweets
18:01 < Number6> *buy
18:01 < woglinde> haha
18:02 < sleske> Number6: I'd like to do more work for Navit. Only it gets a bit tiring to always post patches to trac, then follow them up for days/weeks until they get commited. So I asked what the policiy on commit acces is.
18:02 < sleske> And it would be nice to get some kind of response...
18:03 < woglinde> sleske hm your patches are fine, but sometimes they need to edit a greater scope
18:03 < woglinde> like the unknown.svg
18:03 < woglinde> okay need to do some shopping
18:03 < woglinde> till later
18:03 < Number6> Bring back sweets, woglinde :-)
18:04 < woglinde> only beer
18:04 < Number6> sleske: I still post patches to trac for discussion, if they are changing things in new ways, which is a good idea.
18:08 < sleske> Number6: Ok,you have a point. I'd probably still post "big" patches.It's mainly annoying for small fixes (e.g. the crash fix for #971).
18:09 < sleske> Or activating the GTK shortcuts (#206). Though I would not have commited the translation stuff w/o discussion.
18:10 < zoff99> getting commit access after *the evil one* will be much harder i guess :)
18:10 < sleske> zoff99: What's *the evil one* ?
18:11 < zoff99> me of course, silly
18:13 < Number6> Korossa got commit access after you, zoff99 :-)
18:13 < zoff99> only because he is not evil
18:14 < zoff99> and he doesnt code anything :)
18:14 < sleske> OK, then I'll try not being evil :-).
18:14 < sleske> And post some more patches...
18:17 < zoff99> sleske: if u wanna do something really good, implement "osm relation" support into maptool
18:17 < zoff99> at least for rivers and oceans
18:18 < Number6> Or a cross platform map downloader. Hell, even an internal Linux downloader would be nice :-)
18:18 < sleske> zoff99: Thanks for the hint. However, I don't really know the subject.
18:19 < sleske> Any hints to get me started?
18:19 < zoff99> rivers are dissapearing in navit
18:19 < dandor> sleske, i did an initial version which works with natural=water but apparently there is some problem with the tiling mechanism
18:19 < zoff99> there are 2 bugs on trac
18:19 < sleske> dandor: I remember reading that on trac. What are the trac ids?
18:19 < dandor> i already submitted an initial patch to trac
18:19 < zoff99> dandor: really? i didnt see it
18:19 < dandor> need to check it
18:20 < zoff99> which defect number?
18:20 < dandor> 754
18:21 < sleske> dandor: Thanks. I'll have a look.
18:21 < dandor> however there is a problem in the tiling mechanismm i guess there are problems with large/self intersecting polygons, but i'm not sure about the egzact cause
18:22 < korrosa> I will have you know that a couple of my commits have been my own work!!
18:22 < zoff99> korrosa: ho ho ho, any other wishes for santa? :)
18:22 < zoff99> dandor: did you try it out?
18:23 < dandor> of course, i wrote it....
18:23 < zoff99> and what was the result?
18:23 < dandor> certain water multipolys are OK
18:24 < dandor> but there are some ,that causes large blue tiles to appear around
18:24 < sleske> dandor: Could you post your discoveries to trac as well? Then I can have a look.
18:24 < zoff99> well for me i dont care about coastlines
18:24 < zoff99> if rivers work that would be great
18:25 < dandor> some tiles are inverted (water areas drawn as non water , and vice versa) especially with self intersecting polys
18:25 < dandor> zoff, give it a try
18:25 < zoff99> i wonder why i missed your patch , hmmm
18:25 < zoff99> oh ok, only 6 days ago
18:26 < dandor> CIA is still missing..
18:26 < sleske> BTW, who is this "CIA"? Is it some bot?
18:27 < Number6> Yeah. It's a bot that says when trac has had a change
18:27 < dandor> sleske,yep it used to notify about trac events and commits also
18:28 < sleske> Yes, I saw that. Didn't notice it was missing though.
18:28 < sleske> OK, gotta go buy some stuff. I'll be back later.
18:28  * sleske is shopping
18:29 < dandor> bye sleske
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18:37 < korrosa> All these people shopping!
18:41 < Number6> I did all mine last month :-)
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18:56  * sleske is back
19:04 < sleske> Actually, I do most shopping online. That was just regular household shopping.
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19:09 < woglinde> re
19:13 < curious> i wonder how much oil online shopping saves globally
19:14 < curious> reminds me of those people who haul their 2 tonne worth cars several kilometers to supermarket with cheaper prices just to buy pack of cigz and booze
19:15 < woglinde> you mean in us
19:15 < woglinde> because here in germany the ford f-150 is not the best selling car
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19:42 < sleske> curious: Actually, I shop on foot or by bike. But I take your point.
19:43 < tryagain> woglinde Just tested, svgs seem to be really not working on WinCE. Didnt checked it with Windows yet.
19:44 < tryagain> Why don't we switch all icons to png?
19:53 < curious> woglinde, nah, you germans dump your heaviest and least fuel efficient cars here ;) so this quite applies to europe aswell, and is quite based on daily observations
19:53 < curious> though ofc we turn those to LPG
19:53 < curious> and it's whole lot of offtopic , was just a thought
19:54 < curious> perhaps more a topic for #worldometers ;)
19:56 < sleske> tryagain: Actually, doesn't Navit only use PNGs at runtime? I think the SVGs are only used to generate the PNGs.
19:56 < tryagain> slesk grep svg navit.xml
19:58 < tryagain> And I'm thinking why we don't just go as you said.
19:58 < sleske> tryagain: Thanks, didn't know that.
20:01 < woglinde> tryagain wince should have png
20:01 < tryagain> yes, it has png. But it doesnt have svg
20:01 < woglinde> tryagain yes and as I said just look some lines above and see the other svg's in the same section
20:02 < tryagain> I've seen them. And my test shown that svgs are not working on wince.
20:03 < woglinde> yes
20:03 < woglinde> so one should make a xlst file for wince replacing the svg's with png
20:04 < tryagain> Why can't we do it for all platforms at once?
20:04 < tryagain> Just change navit_shipped.xml
20:05 < tryagain> also build process must be changed to convert all svgs to pngs. Some are not affected by conversion.
20:06 < woglinde> thats easy
20:06 < sleske> woglinde: Isn't an xslt file kind of overkill? Just do some search&replace...
20:06 < tryagain> Are there some drawbacks of swithcing completely to pngs besides it being too easy? ;)
20:07 < woglinde> hm I should look at the code again, but I think if the svg dont works other files are tested
20:10 < tryagain> woglinde it seems to be the case for gui_internal only...
20:11 < tryagain> ... and for graphcis_opengl...
20:12 < woglinde> tryagain which svg's arn't converted?
20:12 < sleske> tryagain: Yes, the icons for the menus in gui_internal don't specify an extension, and the code will try xpm, png & svg. I believe in other places the filename is used as-is.
20:12 < woglinde> I wanted to go through all of this
20:12 < woglinde> tickets
20:12 < woglinde> about the icons
20:14 < tryagain> I noticed that none of icons corresponging to %s_wh.svg mask from osd_core are not converted to pngs. Also _bk ones are not converted.
20:14 < woglinde> hm
20:14 < woglinde> let me see
20:15 < woglinde> yes
20:15 < woglinde> because we have no svg for this
20:15 < woglinde> only xpm
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20:16 < woglinde> so that mystery is solved
20:16 < tryagain> woglinde look at nav*_bk.* - they are all svgs
20:17 < tryagain> and nav*_wh.* are the same type
20:17 < woglinde> ups
20:17 < woglinde> I looked here
20:17 < woglinde> flag_bk_tr.xpm
20:18 < woglinde> if USE_SVG xpm_DATA += $(svgs) $(nav_svgs) $(flag_svgs)
20:18 < woglinde> endif
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20:21 < tryagain> woglinde where your sample "if USE_SVG..." came from?
20:22 < woglinde> the Makefile.am
20:22 < tryagain> hm been looking for it in cmakelists.txt
20:22 < woglinde> oh
20:23 < woglinde> than cmake needs tweaking
20:23 < woglinde> sorry
20:23 < tryagain> Do we still support autoconf stuff?
20:23 < woglinde> cannt use cmake here
20:23 < woglinde> because multilib support suckz on cmake at the moment
20:24 < woglinde> so I get the false includes and libs
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20:24 < tryagain> hav to go now. Goodnight all.
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20:29 < sleske> woglinde: What's this about CMake? Is CMake for WinCE only? Or is there some plan to replace autotools stuff by CMake?
20:29 < Number6> CMake is cross platform. I'm using it for the iPhone port
20:30 < woglinde> cmake will become the buildsystem
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20:50 < sleske> woglinde: Interesting. Can I build using cmake on linux?
20:51 < woglinde> sleske if you do have a multilib system like debian unstable no
20:51 < woglinde> otherwise install cmake
20:53 < sleske> What is a "multilib system"? One with x86 and x86-64 libs?
20:55 < woglinde> one which has /usr/lib/$arch}
20:55 < woglinde> sleske yes
20:55 < woglinde> but you can install arm too
20:56 < woglinde> for cross compiling
21:00 < sleske> woglinde: OK, no problem. My computer is too old for this newfangled 64bit stuff.
21:01 < sleske> So what's the advantage of CMake over autotools? Why the switch?
21:02 < woglinde> better visual studio and xcode support
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21:03 < sleske> woglinde: Ah, I see. I don't use VS, but well... I've heard not everyone can run Linux.
21:06 < sleske> Well, I'm off.
21:06 < sleske> Good night!
21:06  * sleske is going to bed
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