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00:20 < korrosa> tryagain: I'll be hunting you down.
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00:21 < korrosa> U better watch yo back.
00:21 < korrosa> Peace out.
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01:03 < bzed> Number6: actually the norad tracker is not 100% correct - we had our presents already in germany
01:04 < bzed> and santa will come in the next night in other countries
01:04 < bzed> or at some day in the future like on jan 6th in spain I think
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17:10 < CIA-83> sleske * r4867 /trunk/navit/navit/navit.c: Fix:Core:Remove out-ifdefed code, which no longer makes sense, but breaks cscope.
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18:04 < korrosa> Yay! Congrats on the commit access sleske!
18:04 < korrosa> And Merry Christmas everyone else!
18:08 < Number6> Did Annual Gift Man bring you what you wanted?
18:50 < CIA-83> sleske * r4868 /trunk/navit/navit/command.c: Fix:Core:Add warning for invalid commands.
18:50 < sleske> korrosa: Thanks.
18:50 < sleske> Merry Christmas to everyone!
18:50 < sleske> Number6: Well, I don't care *that* much for presents. But I liked what I got (and I hope others liked what I gave).
18:51 < sleske> Number6: And BTW, congrats on the largest commit message ever ;-).
18:53 < Number6> Don't thank me, sleske. Thank the Mac version of SVN having an odd presidence for flags :-)
19:02 < sleske> Number6: Now that I have commit access, I have a question about the SVN guidelines on the Wiki.
19:02 < Number6> Shoot
19:02 < sleske> It says: "Avoid committing a whole folder, especially navit's sourcecode root. It would almost always update timestamps in the translations files, and generate a lot of useless commit log entries. So, as a general guideline, commit each needed file namely. "
19:03 < sleske> I don't understand that. Why would committing a folder "update timestamps in  the translations files
19:03 < sleske> "?
19:04 < Number6> They mean the root trunk, so the main navit folder
19:04 < Number6> Some people commit each file, one by one.
19:05 < Number6> I tend to think, if it's a new feature, in a few files (say like Former Destinations), a single commit is used for that
19:05 < Number6> Don't do what I've done, and commit personal information - I'm blaming the Mac again for that :-)
19:06 < sleske> Yes, that's what I know as well: One commit per feature, or per self-standing part of a feature.
19:06 < Number6> That's all you need to know!
19:06 < sleske> And what about the "update timestamps in  the translations files
19:06 < sleske> " part ?
19:06 < Number6> Don't feel bad reverting someone else's commit, if it horribly breaks things
19:07 < Number6> Don't worry about the translations, just yet. We need to have a chat about that, I'd say
19:07 < sleske> Actually, I've done some work on the translations (see my patch in #206).
19:07 < sleske> Is there something I should know?
19:08 < Number6> Nah. I wouldn't worry about it!
19:09 < sleske> OK. Well, I'd like to clarify the SVN Guidelines in the Wiki. ATM it reads like one commit per file is encouraged, which strikes me as a bad practice.
19:10 < sleske> Would it be ok to write that generally the files making up one feature/logical change should be commited together?
19:12 < Number6> Yes, one logical change
19:13 < Number6> That's what I do. Others do each file one by one, which seems wasteful
19:13 < sleske> Ok, I'll edit. Feel free to correct it afterwards :-).
19:13 < sleske> Number6: No only is it wasteful, I leads to revisions that may not compile. That makes it harder to find the commit that caused a regression.
19:15 < Number6> Exactly. That's happened a few times, when I was looking for a cross compile bug
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19:23 < zoff99> korrosa: hi dude
19:23 < zoff99> hi all
19:25 < Number6> Happy Christmas, zoff99
19:25 < zoff99> that was yesterday :) but thanks
19:25 < Number6> Em, no. Todayis Christmas day :-)
19:25 < zoff99> no not here
19:26 < zoff99> only you yanks have it today
19:26 < Number6> I'm not a yank
19:26 < zoff99> close enough
19:26 < Number6> Sure the next town over from mine is Boston!
19:27 < zoff99> here in middle europe we do all the things last night, today only sleep off the booze
19:28 < Number6> Nah, today is the big day here. It is a custom in my house, that we have dinner, sleep for a few hours, then we go to my aunts house for lots of booze
19:29 < zoff99> youre just anti-euro :)
19:29 < zoff99> 51st state ...
19:29 < Number6> Nah, we love the Euro... You give us lots of money for our mistakes
19:30 < zoff99> do u know the lyrics?
19:31 < Number6> No, please entertain us. It's very quiet in this channel
19:31 < zoff99> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_r_68x1AQc
19:32 < zoff99> dont u know new model army, good lord ...
19:32 < zoff99> you are number 6
19:33 < Number6> Oh God no... I like music yor Dad likes. Kraftwerk, ELO, Phil Collins, etc
19:33 < zoff99> oh god !!
19:33 < zoff99> now tell me u dont like pogues either?
19:34 < Number6> Fairytale of Ney Work - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrAwK9juhhY - is an annoying Christmas song. I hate it
19:34 < zoff99> dont they teach u any culture over there?
19:35 < zoff99> and i doubt that my father likes kraftwerk :)
19:35 < Number6> Yes... My city is the culture capital of Ireland!
19:35 < zoff99> but still listen to the lyrics of "51st state"
19:35 < Number6> Everyone likes Kraftwerk
19:35 < zoff99> youre irish???? wow
19:36 < zoff99> north or south?
19:37 < Number6> South
19:38 < Number6> After my town, to the west is Boston :-)
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19:53 < sleske> OK, SVN guidelines updated :-).
19:55 < Number6> \o/
19:55 < Number6> Our Christmas present from you!
20:12 < sleske> Well, I try to do what i can :-).
20:13 < Number6> Right, time for me to be sociable with my family! Have a good Christmas, sleske
20:13 < sleske> Number6: And to you. Bye!
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20:53 < tryagain> korrosa are you sure you didn't open some link from me? Your recent ping timeouts are so suspicous...
21:00 < korrosa> Nat, crappy wifi at this end!
21:00 < korrosa> Nat = nah
21:01 < CIA-83> sleske * r4869 /trunk/navit/navit/debug.c: Increase debug level
21:04 < sleske> Ouch, that was my accidental commit for Christmas :-/.
21:04  * sleske is still learning to use git-svn
21:04 < CIA-83> sleske * r4870 /trunk/navit/navit/debug.c: Undo accidental commit. Sorry :-/.
21:07 < CIA-83> sleske * r4871 /trunk/navit/navit/ (map/textfile/textfile.c map/textfile/textfile.h navit.c):
21:07 < CIA-83> Fix:Core:Mark destination as stopped in destination.txt, closes ticket #980.
21:07 < CIA-83> Avoids restarting a stopped navigation when Navit is restarted.
21:07 < sleske> OK, that's it for today.
21:07 < sleske> Bye!
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21:33 < lowpuma> hello
21:35 < lowpuma> i have a question about navit on android and truck routing
21:36 < lowpuma> if i set the truck profile active and try to set a location navit won't calculate a route. how come?
21:38 < tryagain> lowpuma is it working with other profiles?
21:38 < lowpuma> yes
21:38 < tryagain> hm
21:38 < tryagain> any other changes?
21:39 < tryagain> may be you trying it with no GPS connections?
21:39 < tryagain> *connection
21:39 < lowpuma> no thats not te problem
21:39 < lowpuma> i live in Belgium could that be a problem?
21:40 < tryagain> i hope with word location you mean destination?  There is another menu item - set as position, which you should not use if you have sattelites visible.
21:41 < lowpuma> everyting works accept truck
21:42 < lowpuma> yes i mean destination
21:44 < tryagain> well, that indeed may be some OSM problem (or truck profile not working on data avil for your region). Needs furter investigation.. Can you please make a trac entry with your problem description. What profile do you use, what waypoints do you use, what results do you expect.
21:44 < tryagain> going to bed now...
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