--- Log opened Tue Dec 27 00:00:44 2011 00:50 -!- George [5138f1b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.56.241.178] has joined #navit 00:50 < George> Hello, is anyone here? I'm having problems downloading maps for Navit. 00:53 -!- George [5138f1b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.56.241.178] has quit [Client Quit] 01:36 -!- flaroche [~laroche@dslb-178-002-191-150.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 01:37 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-178-007-203-037.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:01 -!- cheecid [b2c9730a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.201.115.10] has joined #navit 02:02 < cheecid> 'evning! 02:02 < cheecid> Anyone still around? 02:18 -!- cheecid [b2c9730a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.201.115.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:28 -!- cp15` [bhojzt@p57B1CB68.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:28 -!- cp15 [bnwgjx@p57B1CB19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:28 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:28 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 05:02 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-37-45.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me] 05:08 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:4e36:7909::1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:321c::1] has joined #navit 05:09 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 05:46 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 08:07 -!- kondrat1206 [~kondrat12@178.158.198.87] has joined #navit 08:40 <@Horwitz> morgen 09:38 -!- KaZeR [~kazer@244.170.67.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:55 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.82.173.70.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 10:05 -!- chollya [chollya@biker.satgate.net] has joined #navit 10:30 -!- KaZeR [~kazer@244.170.67.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 10:30 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 10:49 -!- dandor [~dandor@91.82.173.70.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:51 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@ip-88-212-35-8.antik.sk] has joined #navit 10:53 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:53 -!- Barakas [~v@77.242.201.52] has joined #navit 10:54 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD47DB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 11:30 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@p5B083572.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 12:59 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BD6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 13:35 -!- getjan [541bc0a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.27.192.160] has joined #navit 13:35 < getjan> Hello 13:36 < getjan> I have a question 13:37 < getjan> witch c++ IDE did you use to edit the code and to compile it? 13:39 -!- getjan [541bc0a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.27.192.160] has left #navit [] 13:40 -!- efess [~Efess@ool-457707eb.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #navit 13:44 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229046227.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 13:44 -!- dandor [~dandor@82.131.206.219.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 14:43 < sleske> getjan: Who did you ask? 14:44 < sleske> As to c++ IDE - Navit is in C, not C++. And most people here don't use an IDE. But if you want one, Eclipse is quite good. You could also use Visual Studio if you have a license. 14:46 < efess> sleske - do you use Eclipse for navit? 14:47 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD47DB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:54 -!- playya [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 15:01 -!- playya [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:25 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD47DB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 15:48 < woglinde> efess you need autotools support in eclipse 16:02 < sleske> woglinde: Is that really necessary? If you run autotools & configure on the cmdline as usual, it will create makefiles, and Eclipse can use the Makefile, can't it? 16:03 < woglinde> sleske eclipse has the support 16:03 < woglinde> so why dont use it 16:03 < woglinde> unfornatly no cmake support ye 16:03 < woglinde> t 16:05 < sleske> woglinde: I just wanted to point out that you don't really *need* it. Of course, if it's useful, makes sense to use it. 16:05 < sleske> Do you use Eclipse for Navit development? 16:06 < sleske> I briefly tried it, then decided that I prefer the good old way (vim+cscope). 16:06 < woglinde> hm valgrind is much easier to use 16:06 < woglinde> but for easy stuff I use vim too 16:19 < efess> oh. I'm currently using VS for navigating, mingw for building, gdb for debugging (in windows) 16:21 < efess> maybe eclipse will be easier. I'm not good with the "good old way", i've been spoiled with VS for far too long 16:24 < sleske> efess: Then Eclipse (specifically Eclipse CDT) should be nice for you. 16:25 < sleske> But just to put in a plug: vim+cscope is quite nice, too. And it's really fast. With pyclewm you even get an integrated debugger. 16:26 < efess> Does it support Goto Definition and find all references? 16:28 < efess> ah - apparently this is what cscope was made for.. 16:28 < efess> nice, this is one of the biggest things keeping me from VIM 16:29 < dandor> I use similar devenv as sleske vim ctags,cscope 16:29 < dandor> building is also integrated to vim : :!sudo make install 16:30 < efess> I'll have to give both a shot then. 16:30 < woglinde> hm seems I should learn cscope 16:31 < efess> I asked earlier, but noone was around- what's the current state of OpenGL support w/ navit like? 16:31 < dandor> by using screen splitting and tabs in vim it is really flexible 16:32 < efess> I was able use the opengl graphics plugin, but the rendering seems unfinished 16:32 < woglinde> hm 16:32 < woglinde> could be in some parts 16:32 < dandor> efess, what is the problem in detail? 16:32 < efess> Missing roads seems like a big one 16:33 < efess> Loading it up to take a screenshot.. 16:33 < dandor> and with other graphics driver it appears? 16:33 < dandor> ok 16:34 < dandor> graphics driver executes graphics primitives like draw polygon 16:34 < dandor> maybe it is rather a navit.xml problem 16:35 < dandor> drawing of map items depends also on the zoom levels(see itemgra entries of the xml) 16:41 < efess> uploading screenshot.. (cellphone tether) 16:41 < efess> It draws fine using the native driver (win32) 16:49 < efess> http://imgur.com/HpfiV 16:50 < efess> I'm just wondering if the opengl graphics plugin is known to work, or it's just an issue with my compile or settings. 16:59 -!- Barakas [~v@77.242.201.52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:00 < dandor> hmm 17:00 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 17:00 < dandor> seens to be an opengl issue 17:00 < dandor> it cannot draw any polygon on your machine 17:00 < dandor> on my linux box it renders better 17:02 < dandor> do you have freeglut installed? 17:03 < dandor> navit's opengl driver uses freeglut's polygon tessellation rutines to decompose polygons to triangles 17:04 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:07 < dandor> on my linux box it looks like this: 17:07 < dandor> http://imgur.com/F1jpx 17:09 < dandor> efess, if you paste the output of the ./configure script I can check your opengl support 17:12 < efess> yea, I use FreeGlut instead of glut 17:14 < dandor> I implemented some parts of the opengl driver of navit but never tried it on win32 17:15 < efess> Okay, well i'll do some investigation to see what I can make of it then. As long as it's supposed to work :) 17:15 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@g230118240.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 17:16 < dandor> ok, check the output of configure 17:16 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229046227.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18 < sleske> dandor: Interesting. What's the advantage of opengl graphics over, say, gtk_drawing_area? 17:18 < efess> I use CMake, and it won't help much because I moved things around in order to see how it works (it links with all the proper libraries) 17:19 < efess> thanks for mentioning the tessellation, I think this might be caused by me :( 17:20 < dandor> efess, if you find something to improve just write it here and I will try correct it 17:21 < dandor> sleske one advantage can be hardware acceleration , an other is the lack of gtk on some platforms 17:22 < dandor> also there is some opengles support that can be enabled by preprocessor switches 17:22 < dandor> however i never tried openglES support yet 17:29 < efess> ah.. I commented out gluTessEndPolygon() months ago since it was causing a sigsegv 17:31 < woglinde_> hehe 17:31 < woglinde_> lol 17:31 < woglinde_> there you go 17:31 < dandor> :D 17:34 -!- playya [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 17:34 < efess> little embaressing :) Now to figure out why this happens :D 17:36 < dandor> efess ,maybe there are self-intersecting polygons that make tessellation crash 17:39 < dandor> efess, I use freeglut3 2.6.0-1ubuntu2 which seems to work correctly 17:40 < efess> I'm using freeglut MinGW build 2.6.0.0 17:41 < efess> This is a glu function though, maybe there is an issue with the one i'm using 17:45 < dandor> efess, maybe it worth logging the points of the polygon that makes tessellation crash 17:46 < dandor> and plotting them with a plotter sw like gnuplot 17:47 < efess> doing now.. 17:49 -!- playya [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:50 < efess> yea looks good 17:50 < efess> http://imgur.com/5YiVV 17:51 < efess> basic triangle. Still wonder if its the library 17:52 < dandor> is it crashing for all tested areas on the map or just for a specific one 17:53 < efess> I'll put a break point and see if it crashes on the first try.. 17:55 < efess> yea, first try 18:00 < dandor> can you try compiling other freeglut program to test that your opengl installation is correct? 18:00 < dandor> maybe some tessellation sample code for freeglut will do 18:01 < efess> Yea i'll run some more troubleshooting. Moving to another computer now that has a different branc/better video card to see if there are driver issues. 18:01 < efess> branc=brand 18:01 < dandor> ok 18:11 -!- playya [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 18:14 -!- playya [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Client Quit] 18:19 < efess> I'll have to mess with it later, when I'm home from work.. Thanks a lot for your help dandor 18:23 < dandor> efess, cheers! 18:44 < sleske> woglinde_: Can you help me load a shapefile? I'm trying to load a shapefile from Natural Earth. 18:45 < sleske> I noticed you worked on map/shapefile in July :-). 18:46 < woglinde_> I only made the shapefile cmake aware 18:46 < woglinde_> +lib 18:46 < woglinde_> more I dont know 18:46 < woglinde_> besides looking into the code 19:04 < sleske> woglinde_: What a pity. Well, thanks anyway. I'll try to figure it out myself. 19:19 -!- dandor [~dandor@82.131.206.219.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:22 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 19:56 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-37-45.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 20:02 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BD6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:09 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BD6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 20:57 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g230117201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 21:00 -!- woglinde_ [~heinold@g230118240.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:11 -!- adamm_ [40761075@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.118.16.117] has joined #navit 21:12 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD47DB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:12 < adamm_> Hello, I've just installed Navit on my new Toshiba tablet and I can't find the menu option to download my first map. 21:13 < adamm_> Does anyone know where I need to look to find it? 21:50 -!- adamm_ [40761075@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.118.16.117] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:50 -!- adamm_ [~adam@dsl-rb-64-118-16-117.wtccommunications.ca] has joined #navit 22:15 -!- sid_ [d0667c6c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.102.124.108] has joined #navit 22:16 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BD6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17 -!- sid_ [d0667c6c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.102.124.108] has left #navit [] 22:19 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-98-248-33-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-98-248-33-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 22:21 -!- mase76 [~mase76@p5DD3BD6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 22:30 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-98-248-33-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Math problems? 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