--- Log opened Fri Dec 30 00:00:44 2011 00:00 -!- Morphous_ [jan@f048010087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 00:17 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g229047177.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:34 -!- laroche [~laroche@dslb-188-104-191-015.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #navit 01:37 -!- flaroche [~laroche@dslb-178-010-038-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:40 -!- playya [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 03:31 -!- cp15` [kdjbpv@p57B1CCB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:31 -!- cp15 [osmsqf@p57B1CBA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:31 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:31 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 04:49 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 05:02 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:39e9::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:09 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:4e36:7a4e::1] has joined #navit 05:09 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 05:12 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:13 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 06:09 -!- chollya [chollya@biker.satgate.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:22 -!- chollya [chollya@biker.satgate.net] has joined #navit 07:40 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 07:40 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:53 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 08:53 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:14 -!- rd [~rd@p57B49506.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 09:42 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-116-58.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 10:09 -!- rifl_mob [c151018d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.81.1.141] has joined #navit 10:09 < rifl_mob> good morning everybody 10:10 < rifl_mob> I want to change die Icon of signal strenght in Android but do not know where these icons are in the android filesystem. Anyone here who have further informations? 10:31 -!- chollya [chollya@biker.satgate.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:34 -!- chollya [chollya@biker.satgate.net] has joined #navit 11:02 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-116-58.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:03 -!- rd [~rd@p57B49506.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 11:15 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD47DB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 13:04 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@ip-88-212-35-8.antik.sk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:22 < rifl_mob> anybody here 13:22 < rifl_mob> ? 13:40 < sleske> rifl_mob: Yep. Hi! 13:42 < rifl_mob> hello 13:42 < rifl_mob> glad to see you ;_) 13:42 < rifl_mob> - mean: glad to read you. 13:44 < rifl_mob> I just try to design a osd for a screen resolution 1280*800, but with high pixel concentration --> for a samsung galaxy nexus 13:44 < rifl_mob> ... and have some short questions. one moment, i just upload a screenshot 13:47 < rifl_mob> okay... here it is: http://develop.0606.at/Navit-on-android.png 13:49 < rifl_mob> The Problem is i can't get the gps_status work --> in my ubuntu it's okay, but no chance to get it displayed on android :-( 13:49 < rifl_mob> The second Question: Is there any possibility to check if the phone is in landscape mode? to switch the OSD automatically? 13:50 -!- chollya [chollya@biker.satgate.net] has quit [Quit: õÈÏÖÕ] 14:21 -!- wknav [2edf0e56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.223.14.86] has joined #navit 14:25 -!- wknav [2edf0e56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.223.14.86] has left #navit [] 14:44 -!- ventyl [~ventyl@ip-88-212-35-8.antik.sk] has joined #navit 14:53 < sleske> Sorry, was away for a while. 15:00 < sleske> And sorry, probably can't help you. I don't work with Android, so if the problem is on Android only, it's unlikely I can help. 15:00 < sleske> And I don't know about any check for orientation in the Android code - but then, I don't know the Android code either. 15:03 -!- ventyl is now known as ventYl 15:10 < rifl_mob> hm 15:10 < rifl_mob> that's bad ;-) 15:10 < rifl_mob> do you know OSD configuration 15:11 < rifl_mob> i thought of displaying the gps status in a different way: 15:11 < rifl_mob> sleske: for use_overlay, check the reminding code 16:01 < korrosa> Sorry, the keybinding code 16:02 < korrosa> That's how I first saw it, and I think the only reason it's needed... 16:04 < korrosa> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/On_Screen_Display#Keybindings 16:11 < rifl_mob> korrosa, still here? 16:12 < korrosa> Yep, and saw your questions. 16:12 < rifl_mob> :-) 16:12 < rifl_mob> any idea? 16:13 < korrosa> As far as I know, Navit can't change OSD layout between display modes. 16:13 < korrosa> I think there's a ticket in track about it. 16:14 < rifl_mob> ok - thats not the biggest problem, i guess i'll solve this problem by adding a button for that - or, so far it's possible - designing the layout for both display modes. 16:14 < rifl_mob> The more interesting problem for me is, that the gps status do not work 16:17 < korrosa> I think that is also true. Can you paste your gps status xml to pastebin.org and link back in here - I'll try it out... 16:18 < rifl_mob> http://pastebin.com/dG5Fz6UU 16:19 < rifl_mob> but.... the gps status works --> on ubuntu 10.10, but not on android 4.0. 16:26 < korrosa> I can also it works on Ubuntu. Just checking Android. 16:26 < korrosa> Also confirm...* 16:27 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-116-58.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 16:27 < rifl_mob> hm 16:27 < rifl_mob> it works on android? 16:27 < korrosa> No, doesn't seem to. 16:27 < rifl_mob> okay ;-) 16:28 < rifl_mob> so i thought i try something else: 16:28 < rifl_mob> there is the attribut: vehicle.position_sats_signal 16:28 < korrosa> dandor: hopefully you can pitch in here? 16:28 < rifl_mob> i thought checking it's value is a possibility. 16:29 < rifl_mob> --> i'll paste it on pastebin, mom. 16:29 < rifl_mob> http://pastebin.com/TKZBz0MZ 16:30 < rifl_mob> the code itself seems to be okay, because i also check the routing status (no route, calculating, routing, ....) this way. 16:30 < korrosa> Won't work either: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/963 16:31 < rifl_mob> ahhh 16:31 < rifl_mob> damn 16:31 < rifl_mob> ^^ 16:31 < rifl_mob> so i only can wait for a update? 16:31 < dandor> hi rifl_mob, 16:31 < rifl_mob> hi dandor 16:32 < dandor> i checked the android code and currently it does not handle these attributes 16:33 < dandor> other gps drivers like gpsd handle this 16:33 -!- zoff99 [~chatzilla@chello080109110037.13.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #navit 16:33 < rifl_mob> ah okay, it depends on the gps driver 16:33 < dandor> yep, navit call it "vehicle" 16:34 < rifl_mob> but i guess gpsd is not available for android 16:34 < dandor> check navit/vehicle/android/vehicle_android.c 16:34 < dandor> for the supported attributes 16:34 < dandor> maybe radius can be used 16:35 < rifl_mob> radius? 16:35 < dandor> i think radius is related to the accuracy 16:35 < rifl_mob> ah okay. 16:35 < dandor> but i have not tested it 16:35 < rifl_mob> yes, maybe - i just want to have a indication how "good" the gps connection is. 16:36 < dandor> yep,see line 145 16:36 < dandor> v->radius = (*jnienv)->CallFloatMethod(jnienv, location, v->Location_getAccuracy); 16:37 < rifl_mob> ok thank you, i guess i can find this files in the source? 16:37 < rifl_mob> or are they available as plain text somewhere in the internet? 16:38 < dandor> you can use a subversion client but there is a web based interface 16:39 < dandor> http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit/ 16:41 < korrosa> That web based interface can be flaky from time to time... 16:43 < rifl_mob> i thought every gps receiver delivers the data in the nema format 16:44 < rifl_mob> so the "features" for navit shall be equal everywhere. 16:44 < korrosa> Nope! 16:44 < dandor> rifl_mob, as i know android can also provide nmea format but it is not used by navit code 16:44 < korrosa> You can usually configure the receiver to deliver in nmea 16:45 < korrosa> But it's not always default. 16:45 < rifl_mob> okay, thank you for this information. Thought nema is standard ;-) 16:46 < korrosa> Sirf chips have their own protocol, for example. This is why gpsd is good, cos it sorts the stress out for Navit. 16:46 < rifl_mob> how do i geht the accuracy information, vehicle_priv.radius ? 16:46 < dandor> yep 16:48 < zoff99> korrosa: ping 16:48 < korrosa> Hi zoff99 16:49 < korrosa> rifl_mob: if radius shows something good let us know to put on the wiki. 16:54 < dandor> korrosa, can you - as an osm expert - help me collecting the to be supported area types for multipolygon relations? 16:54 < rifl_mob> korossa: yes, i'll try this and will inform you about it 16:54 < rifl_mob> ups. korrosa i meant. 17:02 < rifl_mob> I'm later here again. Thank you all for your help in the meanwhile. 17:02 -!- rifl_mob [c151018d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.81.1.141] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:06 < korrosa> dandor: thanks for the generous title. One moment... 17:07 < korrosa> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations#Established_uses_of_relations 17:09 < dandor> thanks, checking it 17:09 < sleske> korrosa: About use_overlay: What is the relation to keybindings? 17:10 < sleske> Do keybindings only work with use_overlay="1"? 17:10 < korrosa> sleske: afaik yes. 17:10 < dandor> korrosa, to be more precise I am interested the types of multipolygon relations, currently natural=water is supported 17:11 < dandor> the question is what other tags should be included 17:22 < korrosa> I guess anything that can be an area. 17:23 < korrosa> Do they have to be explicitly defined? 17:23 < dandor> maybe it is a good idea to use the map at osm.c 17:23 < dandor> called attrmap 17:24 < dandor> and use the poly_XXX types 17:26 < korrosa> Yup, seems reasonable. 17:26 < dandor> use the records from this table which maps to an item type which is in the area section of item_def.h 17:27 < dandor> in this way I don't need to duplicate the table 17:28 < dandor> anyway can you run a test with the current version? 17:29 < zoff99> dandor: are you sure natural=water is working? 17:29 < zoff99> dandor: those suckers are sometimes recursive! 17:31 < dandor> currently only one outer is supported 17:31 < korrosa> dandor: I tried a run with your patch on the great_britain extract yesterday, but it stalled on phase 5. 17:31 < dandor> so nested stuff is skipped only the outer will be drawn 17:31 < korrosa> I didn't try with a clean maptool yet. 17:32 < dandor> korrosa, it executes a lot of self-intersection tests 17:32 < dandor> that's why it will be slower 17:32 < zoff99> mostly what i found is that: a multipolygon relation again contains relations and those again contain relations 17:33 < zoff99> and only the outer-most contain the tags you need 17:33 < dandor> currently only the outer most is used 17:34 < zoff99> how do you mean? 17:34 < zoff99> how do you carry the outermost tags all the way through to the ways in the inner most relation 17:34 < zoff99> ? 17:35 < dandor> i think currently recursive relations are skipped 17:36 < zoff99> oh 17:36 < dandor> there is no nesting now 17:36 < dandor> but this covers the most cases i saw 17:36 < zoff99> so you go only 1 level "up" the get the tags 17:37 < dandor> the current code do not processes the nested relations 17:39 < zoff99> i hope this will work for some time then 17:40 < zoff99> the problem with OSM is, you cant force people to collect data in a certain way 17:40 < zoff99> poeple just do what ever the hell they wanna 17:40 < dandor> in hungary's osm data i haven't saw nested relations unitil now 17:41 < zoff99> is your danube visible now in navit? 17:41 < dandor> can you count the number of nested relations in austria? 17:41 < zoff99> here in wien,its been gone for some months now :( 17:41 < zoff99> i just say, if its possible for users to add nested relations, then some of the will do it 17:41 < zoff99> the=them 17:42 < dandor> and have they acually used this ? 17:42 < dandor> in large amount of relations? 17:42 < zoff99> i am not sure for now, i will try your patch in zanavi, and see what happens 17:42 < zoff99> hope it will work 17:43 < dandor> just count the number of nested relations... 17:43 < zoff99> danube hast lots of them 17:43 < zoff99> but i think the tags are always in the inner most rel. for now 17:43 < korrosa> dandor: it was stuck for over 1 hour... 17:44 < dandor> and how fast was the original one? 17:44 < korrosa> 16 min flat. 17:45 < dandor> zoff99, how much is "lots"? 17:45 < zoff99> dont u know the duna? 17:45 < zoff99> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1189126 17:47 < zoff99> as i said, i think for now the tags are always in the correct relation, but how long will this be 17:47 < dandor> zoff i think the sub relations will be processed separately and if they tagged correctly they will be displayed 17:48 < dandor> if only the parent relation is tagged the it won't 17:48 < zoff99> still its nested, as u wanted to know 17:49 < dandor> anyway it will not be displayed, as i mentined currently natural=water polygons are displayed 17:49 < dandor> these are tagged with waterway = riverbank 17:49 < dandor> after i update it to use the table i mentined above they will be displayed 17:51 < dandor> since the nested relations are tagged separately they will be displayed when I include waterway = riverbank 18:05 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD47DB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:06 < korrosa> dandor: just trying with clean trunk maptool. 18:07 < dandor> ok 18:30 < korrosa> Hmm, seems to be stuck on phase 6 now... 18:31 < korrosa> Admittedly I haven't processed my own map for a while... 18:31 < dandor> is this the patch -less version? 18:39 < korrosa> Yes. 19:08 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: laroche, bzed, ColdFyre, RedDog 19:16 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Number6, curious, UukGoblin, Morphous_, tg, merlijn, fasta, latouche, ricky26, @cp15, (+24 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 19:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ, CIA-83, Brinky, pini, panfist, merlijn, tg, UukGoblin, Number6, @Horwitz (+28 more) 19:23 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-116-58.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:23 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: udovdh, Morphous_, tripzero, CIA-83, curious, @ChanServ, @KaZeR 19:25 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Morphous_, @KaZeR, udovdh, tripzero, curious, CIA-83, @ChanServ 19:26 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-116-58.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 19:29 < dandor> if you zoom to the lower right part of the polygon you will see the problem: http://imgur.com/mHrYY 19:29 < dandor> (first and last point should be connected also 19:31 < dandor> by fixing the first few points navit will able to display them correctly 19:31 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD47DB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #navit 19:37 -!- rifl_mob [bc1688db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.22.136.219] has joined #navit 19:43 < zoff99> dandor: i dont think they are self intersecting! 19:43 < zoff99> dandor: they worked before 19:43 < zoff99> dandor: i fear that the order of nodes will not be clockwise 19:44 < rifl_mob> hello again 19:45 < zoff99> dandor: how was the danube working before, when it was only "ways" , i dont think they changed the nodes lat,lon values 19:47 < dandor> I don't know the history of the danube but apparently it is self intersecting 19:48 < zoff99> thats bad then 19:48 < zoff99> but all i know is that it worked fine before 19:48 < dandor> plot the pasted coordinates with gnuplot 19:48 < zoff99> did you upload the new patch somewhere? 19:52 < dandor> can you accept the file now? 19:55 < zoff99> no, can u upload to trac? 20:01 < dandor> ok I uploaded 20:02 < zoff99> cool thanks 20:02 < dandor> it will print the coords of self intersecting polys to stdout 20:02 < dandor> starting with CRD 20:03 < zoff99> what is your definition of self intersecting? and where did you get those numbers (that u plot) ? 20:03 < dandor> i use this command to create a file for gnuplot 20:03 < dandor> cat /tmp/map.osm |maptool austria.bin |grep CRD|cut -f2- -d: >out 20:03 < zoff99> and are you sure the debug message print the correct values? 20:04 < dandor> yep 20:05 < rifl_mob> dandor, i tried to use the accurracy tag (radius) from vehicle_priv but unfortunately unsuccessful 20:05 < dandor> then pot it in gnuplot prompt: 20:05 < dandor> p 'out' w lp 20:05 < rifl_mob> label="${vehicle_priv[radius]} is also not working as label="${vehicle_priv.radius.} 20:06 < dandor> ricky26, don't mix commands and text osd text processing 20:07 < dandor> and navit c source :) 20:07 < dandor> you can access the radius from the command system as: 20:07 < dandor> vehicle.radius 20:08 < rifl_mob> i'll give it a try :D 20:08 < rifl_mob> and im 20:08 < rifl_mob> rifl_mob, but not so important ;-) 20:08 < dandor> argh sorry 20:12 < rifl_mob> 20:12 < rifl_mob> anything wrong? 20:14 < dandor> yep 20:14 < rifl_mob> what ^^ ? 20:15 < dandor> moment 20:15 < rifl_mob> sorry, i had a look at it several times ... but it seems that i need an expert 20:18 < dandor> you need something like this: 20:18 < dandor> I haven't tried but whis should work 20:22 < zoff99> dandor: do i need coastline file? if i just want rivers? 20:22 -!- cgfan [4db8c1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.184.193.199] has joined #navit 20:22 < zoff99> or i should ask, are only coastline things overlapping polygons? 20:25 < cgfan> Hi all, at the moment I can't see the last hour here but in the case you don't have a soöution for the radius == accuracy problem on android: 20:25 < cgfan> rifl_mob: this is my solution in a text lable: label="R:${vehicle.position_radius}m" 20:27 < zoff99> night all 20:27 < zoff99> happy new year 20:27 -!- zoff99 [~chatzilla@chello080109110037.13.15.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1/20090707221522]] 20:28 -!- korrosa [~korrosa@178-119-42-243.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:28 -!- korrosa [~korrosa@178-119-42-243.access.telenet.be] has joined #navit 20:31 < dandor> rifl_mob, sorry i need to fix the osd line it should use position_radius instead of radius as in cgfan 's solution: 20:31 < dandor> 20:35 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:39 -!- sleske [~sleske@p4FD47DB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:39 < rifl_mob> dandor, ill try it later, just on the phone... 20:40 < dandor> ok, night all 20:40 -!- dandor [~dandor@87-97-116-58.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:41 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has joined #navit 21:02 -!- korrosa [~korrosa@178-119-42-243.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:04 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 21:05 -!- KaZeR_W [~Z30@77.242.201.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 21:22 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:26 -!- cgfan [4db8c1c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.184.193.199] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:44 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@178-26-83-134-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #navit 21:45 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g225164147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 21:45 -!- AngusRF [~Angus@178-26-83-134-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02 -!- amirk [6da0a6a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.160.166.164] has joined #navit 22:03 < amirk> Hi 22:09 -!- a [4ef39401@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.243.148.1] has joined #navit 22:09 -!- a is now known as Guest27762 22:17 < amirk> Hi 22:17 < woglinde> hi 22:18 < amirk> I have a question regarding language support in Navit 22:18 < amirk> Are you familiar with it? 22:20 < woglinde> yes a bit 22:22 < amirk> ok... 22:22 < amirk> I am trying to use Navit on webOS device 22:22 < amirk> with Hebrew 22:22 < amirk> which is a languafe written right to left 22:22 < woglinde> yes 22:23 < amirk> and the text is showing in reverse for both the GUI related text and the map items 22:23 < woglinde> hm looks like webos has no libfribi support 22:24 < woglinde> or sdl dont support it 22:25 < woglinde> you found this site? 22:25 < woglinde> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Navit 22:25 < amirk> I am not familiar with niether... 22:26 < amirk> I know htis site this is where I am getting my maps... 22:26 < woglinde> sorry I dont know at the moment how they compile navit 22:26 < woglinde> and with which options 22:27 < woglinde> hm yes looks like there is no libfribidi support for webos 22:27 < amirk> Is there is there a defenition of the way the map binary is defined? 22:27 < woglinde> than I have no cluse 22:27 < woglinde> how that can be solved 22:28 < woglinde> it has nothing todo with the map binary 22:28 < woglinde> its all gui/text stuff 22:28 < amirk> a simple change can be just to run a script on the map text fields and reverse their order 22:28 < woglinde> hm thats not simple 22:29 < amirk> I can do that...but fot that i need to have a way to understand the map compsition 22:29 < amirk> structure 22:30 < amirk> If there is a way to convert the map to a textual format (and back to binary) that will be fairly easy 22:30 < woglinde> no 22:30 < amirk> ok... 22:30 < amirk> I will try to log a support requrest on the issue... 22:40 < amirk> thank you 22:45 -!- Guest27762 [4ef39401@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.243.148.1] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:47 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15 -!- woglinde [~heinold@g225164147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: nite] 23:46 -!- Morphous_ [jan@f048010087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:52 < rifl_mob> 23:53 < rifl_mob> unfortunately this do not work. 23:53 -!- rifl_mob [bc1688db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.22.136.219] has quit [Quit: Page closed] --- Log closed Sat Dec 31 00:00:44 2011