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06:28 <@Horwitz> morgen
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10:22 < xazzax> Hi
10:24 < xazzax> got 2 issues with navit and was wondering if I should report them (didnt manage to find them in reported bugs, but then again, didnt search too meticolously)
10:24 < xazzax> 1) No ukraine in maplist (can be solved by DLing a custom map with map extract)
10:25 < xazzax> 2) search doesnt seem to work with almost all cases of ukraine queries
10:27 < xazzax> (so, for example, cant even find Lviv (with search or town list) or kharkov... Some locations DO display though. Ex: krakowiec)
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11:05 < curious> xazzax, if you just enter ukraine in search box
11:05 < curious> do you get a list of towns at least (should start to 'auto complete' after you type few letters)
11:17 < xazzax> in search? ill try, sec
11:19 < xazzax> for the record: im using the android arm v5 release on SE Xperia Neo V. I dont have root access, so I didnt tamper with the files. Ive tried it on both the current release and the latest nightly build
11:22 < xazzax> ok, on the main screen of the maps I press options key, then select address search
11:23 < xazzax> "Enter: City, Street" screen
11:26 < xazzax> I enter the destination ukraine (no autocomplete) then set the flag to ukraine and try inputting the ukraine again (still no autocomplete). But it doesnt look like autocomplete works with poland either. So! I go to the Town serach in main menu>actions>town
11:26 < xazzax> click on the flag to search for countries
11:26 < xazzax> and press U...
11:27 < xazzax> and lo and behold, autocomplete works. I select ukraine. (i knew it did, I did that earlier and...) Now I try to input a city name
11:28 < xazzax> when i press K it shows a result "Krakowiec". But its the only result. When I press L then v then i then v... no result. Lviv not found
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11:29 < xazzax> (its strange, because if I open osm maps site and search for Lviv it finds it no problem)
13:11 <@cp15> xazzax, most likely ukraine doesn't have a valid bounding polygon and the towns you don't find have no is_in tag which assigns them to ukraine
13:13 < CIA-82> martin-s * r4919 /trunk/navit/navit/ (attr_def.h track.c): Add:Core:Option to get matched direction from map matching
13:20 < CIA-82> martin-s * r4920 /trunk/navit/navit/ (debug.c debug.h): Fix:Core:Reverted rename which breaks external modules
13:20 < xazzax> so, any suggestions?
13:21 <@cp15> Yes, either fix the bounding polygon or tag every town correctly
13:21 < CIA-82> martin-s * r4921 /trunk/navit/navit/debug.h: Fix:Core:Reverted rename which breaks external modules
13:21 < xazzax> can I do that? I'm kinda new to navit
13:21 <@cp15> That isn't a navit problem, it is an osm problem
13:22 < xazzax> yuop, when I click around Lviv on a map it show attributes
13:23 < xazzax> and the only one there is is item type: route_end
13:23 < xazzax> whereas upon clicking around wrocław it shows a lot of attributes, along with town name
13:24 <@cp15> Can you find out the osm id of krakowiec and livid?
13:24 <@cp15> If you click on it, go to view attributes there should be an osm_node_id attribute
13:24 <@cp15> Tell me the number of it
13:25 < xazzax> looking for it... sec.
13:26 < xazzax> 337539071
13:27 < xazzax> it looks like a tiny village,
13:28 < xazzax> (when I typed krakowiec in search (ukraine flag) it returned 0 results)
13:31 < xazzax> btw, I use a custom map, DLed from http://maps7.navit-project.org/ yesterday. It encircles Poland and Ukraine.
13:31 < xazzax> ill be right back, need to fetch some stuff from a nearby shop. AFK
13:32 < CIA-82> martin-s * r4922 /trunk/navit/navit/ (vehicle.c xmlconfig.c xmlconfig.h): Add:Core:Moved object functions of vehicle to vehicle.c, added reference counting
13:56 < xazzax> (back)
14:11 <@cp15> xazzax, maybe your problem is fixed already
14:11 <@cp15> Unfortunately the map processing is currently broken
14:11 <@cp15> I will restart it and test it
14:11 < xazzax> so, redownload maps/navit?
14:11 <@cp15> maps
14:12 <@cp15> But you have to wait at least a day until the map is updated
14:12 < xazzax> I can also see that bug #456 is still there
14:12 < xazzax> (that is, not showing navigation for routes over 80 km)
14:13 < xazzax> okay, so tomorrow.
14:14 < xazzax> Thanks, btw ;]
14:14 <@cp15> You are welcome
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16:27 < zoff99> xazzax: hi
16:32 < xazzax> i'm kinda busy atm, but hi
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17:22 < korrosa> xazzax: This may work for you (and is slightly counter-intuitive):
17:22 < korrosa> Do a POI search for your towns.
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17:24 < korrosa> Menu -> Globe Icon -> "POIs" -> then click the top-right icon (magnifying glass) and type in what you want to find. You may have to increase your search range using the values provided...
17:24 < xazzax> ok, ill check that ASAP
17:24 < xazzax> getting to it, in fact
17:25 < korrosa> I've found a couple of un-searchable towns that way. The POI search is pretty ruthless on performance though, so be patient!
17:25 < xazzax> i just wish it would work, I cant rely on google maps because it needs internet connection
17:26 < xazzax> its so harsh, transitioning from nokia to google maps...
17:28 < xazzax> so, I press the screen to get into menu (cant seem to do it any other way?)
17:29 < xazzax> if I press globe in the top left corner of the screen I go back to the map
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17:30 < xazzax> ive got so instead i click the actions submenu from the main menu, then the globe icon (in the middle of the left column) and then choose POIs
17:30 < korrosa> Ah, not that globe!
17:31 < korrosa> Yes, sorry, Menu -> Actions....!
17:31 < xazzax> ; ]
17:31 < xazzax> yes, i'm in. But i dont seem to have the magnif glass icon
17:32 < xazzax> the last one i can see is arking... maybe in horizontal orientation of the screen,,,
17:32 < xazzax> right, its there
17:33 < xazzax> typed lviv (im in trzebnica, thats 500 km apart)
17:33 < korrosa> Yes, to make the icon appear in vertical mode you may want to change the size of the icons in navit.xml
17:34 < xazzax> the biggest range is 110. Now it changed to 170 210 260
17:34 < xazzax> i dont think that will fix that
17:34 < xazzax> because as Ive stated earlier
17:34 < xazzax> If I click anywhere within lviv there are almost no location attributes
17:34 < xazzax> no nametag, nothing
17:35 < xazzax> something is clearly broken (as cp15 said)
17:35 < korrosa> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Internal_GUI#Icon_and_font_sizes
17:36 < korrosa> To spread the search wider, just choose one of the new distances, wait, then one of the new ones again (in case you didn't realise!)
17:37 < xazzax> did realize, thanks
17:37 < xazzax> im at 460 km range now
17:37 < xazzax> its pretty quick, my really old garmin was really bad at that
17:37 < korrosa> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/26150791 <-- There is a place node for Lviv.
17:38 < xazzax> yup, and navit cant seem to find it.
17:39 < korrosa> Ah, shame.
17:39 < xazzax> setting 560 km
17:40 < xazzax> this is a long shot, even if it works
17:40 < korrosa> It should come up as something like town_label_2e4 Lviv, or something similar.
17:41 < xazzax> especially since the navigation cant plot long routes
17:41 < korrosa> That's if it's encoded as Lviv in Navit - I have no idea what happens to non-Roman alphabet...!
17:41 < xazzax> naw, ive used roman alphabet
17:41 < xazzax> (you can set those in keyboard languages when using search)
17:41 < xazzax> ok, this time it found some stufff
17:42 < korrosa> Long navigation: it really depends. I've managed to easily route from Calais to Toulous, a distance of  ~1000km
17:42 < korrosa> With highways, of course...
17:43 < xazzax> lviv polytehnic (3 points) Lviv History Museum, and TIR parking
17:43 < xazzax> setting to 660
17:44 < xazzax> for me, it fails to plot a route from Wroclaw(PL) to Lviv (UA) and Wroclaw (PL) to Przemysl(PL)
17:44 < korrosa> What I tend to do is type "town XXXX" where XXX is the town name. This filters out museums, universities etc...
17:44 < xazzax> either with car profile or car toll free
17:45 < xazzax> Oh, I didnt do that...
17:45 < xazzax> Hm
17:45 < xazzax> still, this is a workaround, not a solution
17:45 < korrosa> Absolutely!
17:46 < xazzax> ok, it finished searching 660
17:46 < xazzax> same amount of results, so not an improvement
17:47 < korrosa> But it may not actually be a problem with Navit, as cp15 mentioned earlier - it may be a problem with the OSM data. It's tricky to decide when to stop working on more complex agorithms to try and detect different ways of tagging towns etc...
17:47 < xazzax> yup
17:47 < korrosa> Anyway, I've got to go. At least you've learned a new skill in Navit, even if it doesn't work this time!
17:47 < xazzax> thanks!
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18:25 < arnotixe> hi all Ive set up navit on Win CE (HTC cruise touch) and got espeak working. With a heavy english accent though. I know I can use cmdline on linux (on linux mint I do), but how to I specify espeech options in win CE?
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20:00 < curious> arnotixe, unfortunatelly, you do not.
20:00 < curious> i have similiar problem :(
20:00 < curious> you can't even change volume
20:06 < CIA-82> tegzed * r4923 /trunk/navit/navit/osd.c: Fix:core/osd:reverted svn #4918 since it broke some OSDs
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21:08 < sleske> @tegzed: I see you reverted my last patch because of problems (rev.4923). I'm sorry if I introduced a problem; could you add a testcase for the broken layouts to trac #983, then I can investigate. Thanks!
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21:43 < arnotixe> curious, hmm I see. that's bad news. I tried hacking the "en" to contain my own language, but still no luck...
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