--- Log opened Fri Mar 16 00:00:39 2012
00:39 < cezaryzukowski> Guys, do you know which Navit's data structure stores route that is calculated after "position" (starting point) and "destination" (destination point) selection ?
00:40 < cezaryzukowski> I think this is "native->route->path2", am I right ?
00:59 < wowon> dear all  ... I still looking for any solution to change some OSD attribute using dbus. Any one can help me ?
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07:44 < odessa2> tryagain well it would start without a gui, but the error  "*** glibc detected *** ./navit: free(): corrupted unsorted chunks: 0x0006e338 ***" is stopping the launsh
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10:02 <@Horwitz> mahlzeit
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13:12 < inoculator> Hello @all. A new day, a new question ;-)
13:14 < inoculator> maptool: I have a bunch of OSM files covering a specific area. now some small changes have taken place within this. If I download only the area with the changes, how does maptool handle the different version? does it look for the timestamp of a file, does it regognize it at all?
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13:25 < korrosa> inoculator: Unless you've read something to the contrary, I don't think maptool can handle OSM changest xml files.
13:26 < korrosa> You must re-download the entire extract from OSM and process the whole thing using maptool.
13:26 < korrosa> (Though having said that, I'm sure the planet extractor does process changsets - Number6, any comment on that?)
13:44 < inoculator> :korrosa: I have made some changes to OSM last week and the NavIT Extractor needed about 3 days until the change was in the download. Even GeoFabrik needs of course a day or so, and it would be great the check my changes to OSM most recent.
13:46 < inoculator> So this is more or less not a feature or bug question. it is more to learn, how I have to work to be able to double check my uploads and in case of error to correct them before other users are impacted
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13:53 < korrosa> inoculator: How are you editing OSM - potlatch or JOSM?
13:54 < korrosa> (or Merkaartor!)
13:54 < inoculator> korrosa: potlatch
13:56 < korrosa> OK, so when you say you want to check for errors, what sort of errors do you mean? I think Potlatch does some fairly rudimentary error checking, and I know that JOSM does some very good error checking (cos it bites me on the arse every time!)
14:01 < korrosa> If you really want to check immediately within Navit, then you must extract section from OSM and convert it with maptool.
14:02 < korrosa> You can extract from OSM using the following url schema:
14:03 < korrosa> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/map?bbox=LonWest,LatSouth,LonEast,LatNorth
14:03 < korrosa> Where LonWest etc are coordinates in decimal degrees.
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14:41 < inoculator> korrosa: I use "http://overpass.osm.rambler.ru" for download. It is more stable and faster and can generate tiles over 5000 items. I am talking about conventional errors, like using the right street type, setting housnumbers a.s.o. The general syntax  is covered through the potlatch gui. Lateron I will see, if I can edit OSM files offline using any other tool. But I am to new to this, to make too many steps at the same time ;-)
14:46 < korrosa> inoculator: Welcome to OSM!! General errors are best checked in Potlatch or JOSM - doing it via Navit is quite a long process!
14:46 < korrosa> For those interested in inoculator's link, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API
14:50 < inoculator> korrosa: thanka! The editing I have set as a job for me, is very close bound to the job NavIT has to do. So I my checks are more related to the engine, if it can read my changes the way I would expect it. And if not, or worst case goes totaly out of bound, I can roleback those things.
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16:21 < cezaryzukowski> Hi Guys
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18:35 < pstan> greetings,  I have navit running on f16 and f16 from svn and noticed after compiling with cmake, make that I missed a prereq.  saxon-scripts   I wonder what this prereq is, as navit seems to work just fine with navit planet extractor
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20:13  * zoff99 says helllo ...
20:13 < zoff99> who is number 1 ?
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22:54 < curious> hmm, someone told me once how to scroll in search results
22:55 < curious> i forgot...
22:55 < curious> town search results
22:58 < curious> ah, found at least howto hide keyboard
23:13 < curious> damn, i have one road which i want to avoid, and logically i would just add traffic distortion
23:13 < curious> but i don't know how to do it with just internal/wince gui
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23:43 < curious> tried to add distortion.txt created on real computer to 'data' dir but it does not work
23:43 < curious> hmm, perhaps it's not included in xml
23:46 < curious> damn, yeah
23:47 < curious> inability to edit distortion.txt and block roads is big issue in general
23:49 < curious> ok, now traffic distortion is displayed correct
23:49 < curious> but it still routes via blocked road
23:49 < curious> wtf
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