--- Log opened Sun Apr 08 00:00:39 2012 03:49 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-159-39.w109-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 07:06 -!- playya__ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:33 -!- dandor [~dandor@82.131.227.241.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #navit 07:34 -!- dandor [~dandor@82.131.227.241.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Client Quit] 09:09 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:37cb::1] has joined #navit 11:19 -!- noradtux is now known as noradtux|away 11:40 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-159-39.w109-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 11:55 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has joined #navit 14:36 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:39 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has joined #navit 14:40 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:47 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has joined #navit 14:59 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-159-39.w109-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me] 15:12 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:17 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined #navit 15:44 -!- khetzal [~quetzal@2001:470:1f13:6e7:6ef0:49ff:fee6:8e93] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27 -!- sera_ [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has joined #navit 16:27 -!- sera [~sera@gentoo/developer/sera] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:13 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:13 -!- HomoLudens [557f269b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.127.38.155] has joined #navit 17:13 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 17:13 < HomoLudens> Hello. 17:13 < HomoLudens> It actually works. Neat. 17:14 < HomoLudens> Hm. But not much reaction yet. 17:25 < HomoLudens> So, just a question: If I search for an address in Navit (on Android 2.2 HTC Wildfire S), about each second time, Navit hangs. Is there a way to report that as a bug? 17:47 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 18:10 -!- ScriptFanix is now known as ScriptFan 18:10 -!- ScriptFan is now known as CompoFanix 18:10 -!- CompoFanix is now known as ScriptFanix 18:31 < HomoLudens> Hm. Still no reaction. 18:36 -!- tryagain [57f5cb19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.245.203.25] has joined #navit 18:39 < tryagain> HomoLudens you may report it as a bug at trac.navit-project.org . Also can you please describe how do you get it to hang? Do you use the hardware menu buton, then select Address Search, OR get into the menu by clicking on the map, then home icon , Actions, Town? 18:40 < HomoLudens> I am using gthe Hardware menu button. 18:40 < HomoLudens> And then I just type the address. 18:41 < HomoLudens> It normally doesn't hang if I just search for a town, but if I add a street, Navit tends to hang. 18:41 < tryagain> Hm, same device here and no hangs. Maybe it's just takes too much time? 18:42 < HomoLudens> It normally starts with finding two or three times the town, but no streets yet (showing 2/0 or 3/0 or similar), and then it freezes forever. 18:44 < HomoLudens> Ok. Not forever, after 5 mins or so I am losing patience :) 18:44 < tryagain> :) 18:45 < HomoLudens> I was trying to find out if special strings cause the hang, but for now, I can't really pin it on a certain way to enter the address. 18:47 < tryagain> So the same search string may cause the hang or not, depending of something invisible to user? 18:47 < HomoLudens> Yes. 18:48 < HomoLudens> I was trying several ways to enter the address ( , ) or ( , ), no zip, number in front of street... 18:48 < HomoLudens> With or without the colon. 18:49 < HomoLudens> (And Navit doesn't find my home address, but finds instead an address in the neighboring village, which happens to share the zip and has a similar street name.) 18:50 < tryagain> I'm unsure what is the correct way, but "town street" without a colon seems to work for me 18:53 * HomoLudens just tries it right now with [Germany] "dresden königsweg 2". It finds 18 towns, and no streets, and has frozen at 70% for now. 18:54 < tryagain> Searching of streets inside towns has some drawbacks. As for me, currently the only way to get street/house is to use POI filtering. To search for the town/village, it's better to use the gui called by tapping the map, not menu hw button. 18:56 < HomoLudens> Hm... But that means that I first have to navigate to where I want to go and then searching there. 18:57 < HomoLudens> Hm. Search failed. It just finds the centre of Dresden, but not the Königsweg street. 18:58 < tryagain> Town search will give you list of possible towns. If you can distinguish the town needed from the list, just click it and begin POI search from its center. 18:59 < tryagain> (you don't have to display the town on the map to begin POI search) 18:59 < tryagain> I'm unsure if Address search allows entering house numbers... 19:01 < HomoLudens> Hm... The maps don't know the Königsweg. This is strange. 19:03 < HomoLudens> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.03651&lon=13.83639&zoom=17&layers=M 19:03 < HomoLudens> Here it is on OSM. 19:04 < tryagain> There are currently too much problems finding street in the town. Sometimes search radius is used based on town population, which may go wrong for towns bigger than expected. 19:06 < HomoLudens> So if the town in question covers a very large area with only sparse population, it might go wrong?` 19:07 < tryagain> yes 19:07 < tryagain> And when the city has suburbs, street search may require having suburb name entered. That's why I say better go with POI search after you found the town 19:07 < HomoLudens> Ok, in this case I doubt that being the problem, because Dresden has about half a million inhabitants, and the Königsweg is about 5 km from the town centre. 19:08 < HomoLudens> But the suburb name could be a problem, because the search on OSM puts the street into the suburb Loschwitz/Wachwitz. 19:13 < HomoLudens> Hm. POI search? 19:15 < HomoLudens> Never tried that one. Is that what you get if you touch the map and then go to "Action"? 19:16 < tryagain> When you click the map you already should have textual menu having the "POIs" item. 19:16 < HomoLudens> No, I have. 19:16 < tryagain> Or, if you use an older version of navit, then go to actions and press the globe icon 19:17 < HomoLudens> I have "Actions", "Settings", "Tools", "Route" and "About". 19:17 < HomoLudens> Ah ok. 19:17 < HomoLudens> I see. 19:18 < tryagain> The same "POIs" you may get from "Town" when a found town is selected 19:18 < HomoLudens> Ok. I have Navit 0.5.0 4785. 19:18 < tryagain> Difference is only the cemyer point choosen 19:18 < HomoLudens> That's the version from the Android Market. 19:19 < tryagain> hm 19:19 < HomoLudens> It seems to be the most recent version. 19:19 < HomoLudens> http://download.navit-project.org/navit/android/market/ 19:20 < HomoLudens> There is no newer one here. 19:20 < tryagain> Try downloading an APK from http://download.navit-project.org/navit/android/svn/navit-svn-5010.apk . But you'll need some file manager to install it 19:21 < tryagain> I use "Explorer" (c) speed software ltd, got it freely from market 19:21 < tryagain> root is NOT required 19:22 < HomoLudens> Let me try it. 19:23 < HomoLudens> So I just copy the .apk via USB onto the device and then let the Explorer find it? 19:25 < tryagain> yes, with Explorer you just browse folders like on a normal PC, you'll find your file in ./sdcard/ folder, then just run it. 19:26 < HomoLudens> Cool, I'll try it. 19:26 < tryagain> Number6 Do you know who's responsible to push current navit to the market. Version of Sep'2011 seems to be outdated a bit... 19:27 < Number6> tryagain: cp15 19:28 < HomoLudens> tryagain: Ah... downloading the .apk with Opera and then just opening it from Opera worked too. 19:28 < tryagain> HomoLudens fine 19:29 < tryagain> Number6 I'll try to contact him by mail. 19:30 < Number6> I've not seen him around in a while... That said, I've not been around for a while either :-( 19:30 < HomoLudens> tryagain: But anyway, you've been a great help. I was about to get desperate because of the search. 19:31 < HomoLudens> Now there is only one little glitch left for me. 19:32 < tryagain> Number6 He seems to ignore IRC but still commits from time to time. I hope he reads his mail, ocassionally. 19:32 < HomoLudens> If you are on a motorway making a long turn, and within the turn, there is an exit you have to take, then the hint from Navit is quite confusing. 19:33 < HomoLudens> So for instance, if the motorway makes a left turn, and the exit is to the right, but also slightly turning left, because the whole motorway goes left at the moment, it says "take the exit to the left", but I would call it "exit to the right" (even though it is in fact a left turn.) 19:37 < HomoLudens> But it is right of the main road... 19:37 < tryagain> is it similar to http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/921 ? 19:38 < HomoLudens> Yes, sounds about the same issue. 19:40 < HomoLudens> I notice it everytime I am using navit going home, because the exit close to my home has exactly that issue. 19:41 < HomoLudens> All the lanes are turning left, but I have to take the one which is at most to the right. 19:41 < HomoLudens> And Navit announced it as "take the exit to the left". 19:41 < tryagain> If you have some ideas/suggestions please post them on the ticket. Somebody will notice the actiovity and evenually fix it. 19:42 < HomoLudens> Ok. 19:45 < HomoLudens> Hm. I have to create an OpenID for me first :) 19:51 < HomoLudens> Ok... I came, saw and commented. 19:51 < HomoLudens> Thanks, tryagain. 19:51 < tryagain> thank you for your feedback HomoLudens 19:52 < HomoLudens> Have a nice evening then :) 19:52 -!- HomoLudens [557f269b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.127.38.155] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:05 < CIA-49> sleske * r5013 /trunk/navit/contrib/android_build.sh: Fix:core:Add copyright note. 20:08 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:37cb::1] has left #navit ["wIRC"] 20:13 -!- Dark_Ebola [~ebola@AToulouse-551-1-125-14.w92-156.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 20:15 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:37cb::1] has joined #navit 20:35 -!- arnotixe [~arnotixe@190.131.183.143] has joined #navit 21:27 -!- merlijn [merlijn@home.mhofstra.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43 -!- merlijn [merlijn@home.mhofstra.nl] has joined #navit 22:14 < curious> hmm, problem like this comes from fact navit has no lane assistant @ all 22:16 < curious> in software with lane assistant it usually says stuff like 'keep on the rightmost lane' etc. 22:17 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:37cb::1] has left #navit ["wIRC"] 22:29 < tryagain> curious What lane would you take on http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/29731914 if you're going from the North to the South by A35 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.3455&lon=24.6964&zoom=13&layers=M? There's no lanes information for that roads. We might only guess that ramp has less lanes than motorway... 22:30 < tryagain> bed is calling... 22:30 -!- tryagain [57f5cb19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.245.203.25] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:33 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:34 -!- playya_ [~playya@unaffiliated/playya] has joined #navit 23:06 -!- noradtux|away [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:37cb::1] has joined #navit 23:06 -!- noradtux|away is now known as noradtux 23:07 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:37cb::1] has left #navit ["wIRC"] 23:28 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit --- Log closed Mon Apr 09 00:00:39 2012