--- Log opened Sat May 12 00:00:39 2012
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09:58 < korrosa> sleske: Thanks for the link - exactly what I meant!
10:02 < korrosa> I agree that more admins would be useful. Bear in mind that cp15 is the sole sysop (I think, KaZeR may have rights too), so only he can appoint admins. Also, only he can do any of the things noted on that wiki page.
10:04 < korrosa> A few thoughts:
10:04 < korrosa> Whatever is implemented, we need something which doesn't require much (any) involvement from the admins. I'm lazy.
10:05 < korrosa> I think restricting page creation as mentioned previously goes some way to doing that. However, Recent Changes will still be littered with the bogus sign-ups.
10:06 < korrosa> Which is why I think it's important to see where the sign-ups are coming from - if it's obviously from a particular block or country then we can just ban that block for a while.
10:07 < korrosa> (Legit users can ask for access in IRC or Trac, and sysops could still create accounts for them)
10:09 < korrosa> Another reason for looking at where people are signing up from, is to see *how* they're signing up. I know that the last time we attempted to tackle the spam problem (at about the time I got admin rights) cp15 found that users where signing up via a backdoor, and I think were evading the captcha altogether. So, let's check that also - are there still backdoors?
10:10 < korrosa> I guess if we're concerned about the littered Recent Changes page, perhaps we should just hide all messages about user sign-ups in the default view.
10:12 < korrosa> I can't immediately find such an options in the docs though.
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19:20 < sleske> korrosa: These ideas all sound excellent to combat the wiki spam.
19:22 < sleske> Personally, I'd try to attack the problem at the root, and just disable account creation altogether.
19:26 < sleske> There are very few legitimate acct. creations anyway. It's a pity, but it would probably be enough to have an email address where legitimate new users can send a mail with their first edit.
19:26 < sleske> Then someone can apply the edit, and create a user for them.
19:28 < sleske> Yes, it would be a bit of work, but as far as I can see, there has been no legitimate new user for the last 30 days.
19:29 < sleske> So it's probably not more than one or two real new users per month. That should be doable manually.
19:29 < sleske> Ideally, such requests would go to a shared mail address, where several people have access and can create accounts.
19:31 < sleske> Yet another option: Require confirmation of new accounts inside MediaWiki.
19:32 < sleske> There's an extension for this (yay for free software): http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount
19:32 < sleske> An example of a project using this mechanism: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Special:RequestAccount
19:34 < sleske> Actually, the ConfirmAccount Extension looks like the best bet right now.
19:38 < sleske> Anyway, as cp15 is the only one with admin rights, he'll have to decide. Maybe you can ping him?
19:39 < sleske> I recently emailed him (about a technical problem), and didn't get a reply, so he may be busy.
20:50 < CIA-49> sleske * r5098 /trunk/navit/cmake/navit_download.cmake: Fix:maps:Report map download error, and remove partial download
20:51 < CIA-49> sleske * r5099 /trunk/navit/navit/maps/CMakeLists.txt: Fix:maps:CMake refactoring (remove superfluous rule)
20:51 < CIA-49> sleske * r5100 /trunk/navit/navit/maps/CMakeLists.txt: Fix:maps:CMake refactoring (wrap lines, more logical order)
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23:53 < CIA-49> rikky * r5101 /trunk/navit/navit/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Fix:Android:Rewrite android search dialog handling. Fix for crashs/deadlocks and cleanup
--- Log closed Sun May 13 00:00:39 2012