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14:56 < CIA-80> martin-s * r5127 /trunk/navit/navit/binding/dbus/binding_dbus.c: Fix:binding_dbus:Signature-compliant return values in case of no data
14:58 < CIA-80> martin-s * r5128 /trunk/navit/navit/ (attr.h gui/qml/gui_qml.cpp): Fix:Core:Moved struct range outside of struct attr for better c++ compatibility
14:59 < CIA-80> martin-s * r5129 /trunk/navit/navit/layout.h: Fix:Core:c++ compatibility
15:00 < CIA-80> martin-s * r5130 /trunk/navit/navit/ (vehicleprofile.c vehicleprofile.h): Add:Core:Possibility to get all roadprofiles of a vehicleprofile
15:02 < CIA-80> martin-s * r5131 /trunk/navit/navit/ (map.c map.h search.c): Add:Core:Added address search again and made it available in a way similar to other searches
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15:27 < kenguest> hmm. if I reach a T junction, navit doesn't always tell me (using voice prompts) whether to turn left or right. This is with the android port - the latest version,
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16:39 < CIA-80> mdankov * r5132 /trunk/navit/navit/vehicle/wince/vehicle_wince.c: Fix:WinCE:Really silence down vehicle_wince code.
17:08 < Celelibi> Hi
17:10 < Celelibi> When I have the map and click on it, I see strange stuff below the normal items.
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17:11 < Celelibi> The last "normal" items is "Points d'intérêt" (in french) Which is "Interesting Points" I think in english.
17:12 < Celelibi> But just below that I have stuff like "x street_1_city street_1_city Rue D'Anvers" or "x poly_building poly_building"
17:12 < Celelibi> Do I lack some translated texts and pictures?
17:18 < Celelibi> And why does the map looks so ulgy from "far" (unzoomed)
17:25 < Celelibi> Is there a way to avoid paying roads?
17:36 < Celelibi> And if I miss my road, does navit compute another from where I am to the destination?
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19:32 < Celelibi> Why does the map look like that? http://nsa29.casimages.com/img/2012/06/05/120605084441738709.png
19:32 < Celelibi> it's... awful.
19:39 < Celelibi> When I zoom it looks nicer.
19:59 < CIA-80> martin-s * r5133 /trunk/navit/navit/layout.c: Fix:Core:Enable getting name attribute from layout
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20:00 < korrosa> Celelibi: In order:
20:00 < korrosa> To avoid toll roads: Change your vehicle profile to car_avoid_tolls
20:01 < korrosa> If you miss your road, Navit will re-calculate a new route immediately.
20:02 < korrosa> When zoomed out, Navit tries to show an as-simplified version of the map as possible, so that not too much memory is used.
20:02 < korrosa> This results in the screenshot you provided, down to the leaking sea!
20:04 < korrosa> More info on avoiding tolls: Menu -> Settings -> Vehicle -> car_no_toll
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20:06 < Celelibi> ok, I'll see for the vehicle.
20:07 < Celelibi> When I go to Menu -> Settings -> Vehicle I only have "local GPS" as choice.
20:09 < Celelibi> My screenshot not only show a squared sea (which I understand) but also sea inside of the land.
20:09 < Celelibi> May that be the rivers?
20:13 < korrosa> Click on "Local GPS" and then select car_no_toll
20:13 < korrosa> Sea inside land is a know problem. When you zoom in does the leaking sea disappear?
20:13 < Celelibi> Actually, even without unzooming, it seems that I live in an undersea city. :)
20:15 < Celelibi> Just answered above. :)
20:15 < korrosa> This is most probably an issue with the OSM data. An inside out lake, or an un-connected relation.
20:16 < Celelibi> ok
20:18 < Celelibi> hum... Actually, it looks like navit does not find a route for car_no_toll
20:19 < korrosa> About how far is the route?
20:19 < korrosa> (For underwater cities, this ticket may help: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/745)
20:21 < korrosa> I have used the car_no_toll setting successfully when I was driving around in France, with routes from Paris to Toulouse successfully being calculated.
20:21 < korrosa> However, some people have had problems: see this ticket http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/456
20:23 < korrosa> kenguest: re the T-junctions. Does the road you're turning onto have the same name as the one you're coming off?
20:23 < Celelibi> As you may see on the screenshot, the route is about 600Km.
20:23 < korrosa> Woah, yeah, 600km is very long!
20:23 < Celelibi> It is unlikely that there exist no route without toll.
20:24 < Celelibi> (btw, I know it exists since I've already done it ;))
20:25 < korrosa> The ticket explains it better, but it's to do with the way Navit calculates routes. It uses many roads around the start and end points, but the bits in between it just tends to look at major roads for routing. This means it can fail for really long routes. Perhaps try shorter, multiple routes to get to your destination?
20:26 < Celelibi> Well, I may take a few cities from the google route...
20:27 < Celelibi> But I don't like very much that idea.
20:27 < Celelibi> And I'm currently trying the svn HEAD revision.
20:28 < korrosa> Good, on a laptop?
20:28 < korrosa> If so, try some of the options in the ticket and re-compile - it should help.
20:29 < korrosa> The changes are more intensive on the device, so make sure you have the memory capacity!
20:29 < korrosa> (Hence the question about the laptop!)
20:29 < Celelibi> so... It just crashed when I tried to set my position.
20:30 < Celelibi> How can I compile without optimisation and with full debugging options? I'm not really used to cmake.
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20:32 < Celelibi> What I can say is that I still live underwater, but the gtk gui now work.
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20:39 < Celelibi> So the routing algorithm is not based on a A*?
20:39 < Celelibi> That's surprising.
20:40 < Celelibi> It's perfectly adapted for routing on roads.
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22:34 < Choozy> Hello, is everything good at the navit-project.org wiki page?
22:41 < Choozy> Is there anyone still online at this time of day?
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22:59 < CIA-80> mdankov * r5134 /trunk/navit/navit/transform.c: Fix:core:Properly duplicate and destroy transformations. Fix valgrind complains during navigation.
23:15 < CIA-80> mdankov * r5135 /trunk/navit/navit/util.c: Fix:core:Don't read one byte after end of string in iso8601_to_secs()
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