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21:08 < dominizer> Good evening, I'm wondering if this channel is speaking english /  oder tuts auch deutsch, dann guten Abend
21:09 < Megaf> English I think
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21:23 < dominizer> Ok thx. Well I'm using navit now for about a year on my android device and I am very happy with it, especially when it comes to to the main thing this program is made for. The routing. Where navit is much more powerfull than google navigation or expensive devices including built in devices from BMW i.e. So I decided to get a little bit into it and played along with the navit.xml
21:25 < curious> hey. i got new idea about action menu and town search :)
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21:27 < curious> basically now there is just actions>town menu, and then one has to type in town, change country if nessesary (each time... annoying when living near border) , and then street name, number, etc.
21:27 < curious> so, my idea is to optimise this as this takes usually long time to type all that in
21:28 < curious> which is esp PITA when one actually IS in town in question, and wants to just find some street or when one is on that street and wants to know where particular number is (which is not always so straightforward it would seem)
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21:30 < curious> so, main idea is to just create actions> menu items to save some typing
21:30 < curious> i.e. actions>current town search
21:30 < curious> this would just pick up town one is into, (incl. country and so on) and jump straight to street search
21:31 < curious> and also actions>recent destinations
21:31 < curious> which would allow to just choose towns and streets one was recently @ and jump to search of items one branch deeper
21:32 < curious> it's different from 'former destiations' it allows additional search
21:32 < xenos1984> dominizer: so what did you change in the navit.xml? any interesting results?
21:33 < curious> so if one would want to i.e. travel to vienna from bratislava, one would have to do do actions>town (change country, choose bratislava, and pick up street)
21:33 < dominizer> I was very impressed by the bike vehicle profile and so i created some other profiles for car like car-avoid-highways and car-prefer-land-lanes
21:33 < dominizer> stuff like that
21:34 < dominizer> but those profiles only work on short distances
21:34 < curious> and then if one would decide to go to another street during travel (i.e. pick someone else up) one would have to just click actions>recent destinations , pick 'bratislava' and just choose street
21:34 < curious> dominizer, there is bug in routing engine, tryagain worked on this yesterday
21:35 < curious> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/456
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21:35 < curious> sometimes route is not calcuated @ all, sometimes it is calcuated wrong way (using just large roads instead of small ones)
21:35 < curious> one can hardly say it's fixed, but work-around is on the way
21:35 < dominizer> yea thats exactly what I'm talking about
21:36 < dominizer> nice thx for the link
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21:36 < curious> u can grab latest build , tweak navit.xml and try to test and report back, but so far just simple hack/workaround is made
21:37 < dominizer> well my workaround is to use waypoints
21:37 < curious> which may as well just crash your device :( so keep some backup sd-card with classic settings on-the-road
21:37 < dominizer> that works sometimes
21:37 < curious> yeah, but this is damn tedious
21:38 < curious> and if one uses some extra oportunistic transport when on road (i.e. taking train to 'skip' some difficult route when on bike)
21:38 < curious> it takes time to delete waypoints, re-plan route, etc.
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21:47 < dominizer> oh nice, i remember I read this ticket about two weeks ago. Nice to see it still active. How can I write there? going to try out the nightly builds.
21:48 < curious> just log in using i.e. google's openid
21:48 < curious> see on top of page, right side
21:49 < dominizer> thx
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22:06 < curious> damn, those vehicleprofiles start to grow big :/ now i made all ones in 'pedantic' and 'lowmem' style
22:06 < curious> it calls for some includes
22:08 < dominizer> hehe how to create a lowmem vehicle profile?
22:09 < curious> using more conservative values of route_depth
22:10 < curious> i am just editing the config file myself ,will test it on road tommorow
22:11 < curious> i have very slow and low memory device, actually i am thinking about throwing it away , but then , it's really good for bike coz it's cheap
22:11 < dominizer> it doesnt make a difference
22:11 < curious> and i am bit against of installing thousands dollars tablet to bike steering wheel ;)
22:12 < dominizer> i installed navit on my pc under ubuntu
22:12 < dominizer> 8 x RAM
22:12 < dominizer> same problem
22:12 < dominizer> same distance
22:13 < curious> well, yes, i am talking about new build , using route_depth parameter
22:13 < curious> see very bottom of http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/456
22:13 < curious> one needs - new build and new navit.xml (!)
22:14 < woglinde> nightly build is running son
22:14 < woglinde> args soon
22:14 < curious> 5217 seems to be up
22:15 < dominizer> Ah. ok understand
22:16 < curious> btw. is there any way to see routing progress ? (or at least some 'spinner')
22:17 < curious> calculating just 200km route seems to take pretty long time :(
22:17 < curious> (using bike-pedantic)
22:19 < curious> ugh, just 30km route takes over minute
22:19 < curious> now this is indeed slow
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22:22 < curious> ... and computing just 60km route takes forever...
22:22 < curious> over 2 minutes... unusable :/ - device is 400mhz with 64M of memory - but at least it doesn't cry it is running out of mem so far
22:23 < curious> yay, but it finally DID calculate the route :D
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22:26 < curious> ok, seems even more 'conservative' settings slow calculations pretty much
22:26 < curious> with 12:25% - still over 2 minutes to calculate 60km route
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22:33 < _rd> rd@blackbox:~/SW.nobackup/navit-clean/navit/tools/gpx2navit_txt$ ./autogen.sh
22:33 < _rd> aclocal: couldn't open directory 'm4': Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
22:33 < _rd> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
22:33 < _rd> rd@blackbox:~/SW.nobackup/navit-clean/navit/tools/gpx2navit_txt$
22:33 < _rd> Does anybody know how to build gpx2navit_txt?
22:41 < _rd> Hmm....creating an empty m4 directory worked.
22:41 < woglinde> rd use cmake?
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22:46 < _rd> The readme advised differently.
22:46 < _rd> But seems I am stuck anyways:
22:47 < _rd> But seems I am stuck anyways:
22:47 < _rd> rd@blackbox:~/GPS/Virtual/Dolomiti$ ~/SW.nobackup/navit-clean/navit/tools/gpx2navit_txt/src/gpx2navit_txt Scharnitz-Bozen.gpx
22:47 < _rd> gpx2navit_txt:Scharnitz-Bozen.gpx:8611 track was not converted because no move recorded.
22:47 < _rd> rd@blackbox:~/GPS/Virtual/Dolomiti$
22:48 < MrDan> Has anybody tried running NavIt on a Raspberry Pi ?
22:48 < _rd> http://bokomoko.de/~rd/Scharnitz-Bozen.gpx
22:49 < _rd> Can anybody repro the problem with gps2navit_txt ?
22:52 < dominizer> Ok guys, thx for the advice, got to play around a bit, see you the next days. I'm out now
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