--- Log opened Wed Dec 19 00:00:39 2012
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18:36 #navit: < Usul1> Hi boys and girls :)
18:37 #navit: < Usul1> sorry but yesterday my internet connection f*cked up ...
18:37 #navit: < xenos1984> hi Usul1 :)
18:45 #navit: < Usul1> huhu xenos1984 ;)
18:46 #navit: < Usul1> BTW what would you say if we move from SVN to GIT? I really like decentrelised VCS as you can submit your changes even in trains when you are offline...
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18:51 #navit: < ventYl> (1 irrelevant) vote for git
18:56 #navit: < Usul1> nothing that needs to be done within days (IMHO) but would be a good idea to get away from SF
18:57 #navit: < Usul1> if we wan't to drop TRAC as well, we might use github as bug tracker (which looks modern, but not sure if it would fit our needs)
19:01 #navit: < tryagain> Usul1 as git is decentralized, nobody prevents you from importing current svn into your own git repository. An example is here http://blog.shinetech.com/2009/02/17/my-git-svn-workflow/
19:03 #navit: < Usul1> IMHO it's not about making single imports, but maybe to decide (as team) that GIT/Mercurial/.... might bring some benefits, so we all might use it (and avoid breaks in workflow)
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20:02 #navit: < usul1> I asked cp15 about an team meeting in ~April 2013. What you say? Would it make sense, to organise a local come-together, to chat in person about ideas and a roadmap etc?
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20:12 #navit: < usul1> knows anybody somethink about the "wave" speech output? I analysed the commandline speech output, but didn't find any hint on which wavefiles are needed
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20:32 #navit: < tryagain> usul1 http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuring_Navit#Speech
20:33 #navit: < usul1> yeah know this paragraph but how can I get all sentences together, which NAVIT tries to speak?
20:34 #navit:  * usul1 thinks about getting some prominent speakers to create funny wavepacks
20:34 #navit: < usul1> maybe something like this: youtube.com/watch?v=2ljFfL-mL70
20:35 #navit: < tryagain> currently no way to get all files needed besides analysing the code (and translations).
20:35 #navit: < usul1> but as we can't efford licenses to commercial stuff, we might get some nation wide famous people as speakers
20:35 #navit: < usul1> tryagain: I see :/
20:36 #navit: < usul1> didn't understand the comandline speech code. Looks like this wave concat trick is within speechd ?
20:37 #navit: < usul1> and what about variants to make it less boring to the user?
20:41 #navit: < tryagain> if you have set  both sample_dir and sample_suffix, it would call an external program to play wav files needed to compose whole phrase. No speechd,
20:42 #navit: < tryagain> If those attrs are not set, it would call an external program with whole phrase. It's expected that this program is able to pronounce anything (like espeak)
20:44 #navit: < tryagain> What do you think can make it boring? We can turn it off at all, or set vocabulary_name and vocabulary_name_systematic to zero to have less output.
20:47 #navit: < tryagain> what bored my wife when I first used GPS, was women voice from it. When I changed it to use man voice, she instantly calmed down ;)
20:49 #navit: < usul1> hehe ;)
20:49 #navit: < usul1> What I guess might become boring is if you hear day by day "now turn left"
20:49 #navit: < xenos1984> my volkswagen GPS only has a female voice - and navigates like a woman...
20:50 #navit: < usul1> Would be more interesting if there are some slightly different versions by the same speaker "Now turn here left" / "ok now a left turn" / "here we drive left"
20:51 #navit: < usul1> it would be hard to record/split sentences in that way, that a merged playback would sound natural (due to small pauses between
20:51 #navit: < usul1> )
20:51 #navit: < xenos1984> usul1: i think i found this once somewhere, probably for tomtom (but i might be wrong on this): it was saying things like "hey buddy, this is the wrong way. turn around." or "hey dude, what about a right turn in 300 meters?"
20:52 #navit: < usul1> cool
20:52 #navit: < usul1> yes as I posted above they pay a lot of attention to that stuff
20:52 #navit: < usul1> which is logic as studies approved that customizing creates an deep relationship user <-> device (and maybe brand?)
20:53 #navit: < xenos1984> i think they also had homer simpson's voice...
20:56 #navit: < usul1> not sure if could ever get that ;)
20:57 #navit: < tryagain> I think having different versions of the same phrase might disguide the user. For me, it's better to have the same phrase for the same command.
20:57 #navit: < tryagain> If you talk to your passanger at the time of announcement, you have more chance to recognise the command if it is the same every time.
20:57 #navit: < usul1> but thought about different slangs (here in Germany plattdeutsch, bayrisch, sächsisch, ...) and maybe some Comedians or podcasters?
20:58 #navit: < usul1> tryagain: ok thats a point, so at least we should make it configurable
20:58 #navit: < usul1> BTW guess the wiki gets cleaner :) http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Special:AllPages
20:58 #navit: < tryagain> At least we should have one set of wav files for at least one language...
20:59 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, it should definitely be configurable - not randomly speak bavarian and saxonian ;)
21:00 #navit: < usul1> xD
21:00 #navit: < usul1> "ya may! Wessss isch däs?"
21:02 #navit: < xenos1984> "Bist denn deppat? Hob i dia net gsacht, dassd hia net weida kimmst?"
21:02 #navit: < tryagain> see you all
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21:03 #navit: < usul1> cya
21:04 #navit: < usul1> I asked www.dosenfischer.de today if they would like to spend us their voice. Not a problem and they are famous geocachers (at least here in north germany)
21:06 #navit: < usul1> I hope that someday Marc Uwe kling (a comedian) would give us the voice of his  kangaroo character :) Thats just to cute!
21:09 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i would prefer otto waalkes as... ah, what was the name...
21:09 #navit: < xenos1984> ice age... *think*
21:11 #navit: < xenos1984> sid!
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21:17 #navit: < usul1> yeah but otto is a big number ;) Don't expect that he could be motivated to support an free open source project...
21:19 #navit: < xenos1984> of course, this would just be a dream ;)
21:22 #navit: < usul1> but maybe it would become true, if Disney finaly understand how cool NAVIT really is :P
21:24 #navit: < xenos1984> "M... A... T..." - "no, D!" - "i'm not mad!" - "but you don't know how to write madagascar! give me the navit device!"
21:29 #navit: < usul1> yeah with the crazy grandma, right?
21:30 #navit: < xenos1984> i think so, yes ;) i don't remember exactly...
21:35 #navit: < usul1> ok so time for bed here
21:35 #navit: < usul1> cya
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