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18:10 #navit: < Celelibi> Can I display the estimated time of arrival?
18:12 #navit: < xenos1984> Celelibi: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD#text
18:12 #navit: < Celelibi> thx
18:32 #navit: < Celelibi> hum... When I switch from car to car_avoid_tolls it doesn't recompute the route.
18:33 #navit: < Celelibi> I have to stop navit, and set the car_avoid_tolls before I compute any route.
18:40 #navit: < Celelibi> How do I say on the gtk gui that I want to use the car_avoid_tolls ?
18:54 #navit: < Celelibi> looks like the sdl graphics have some trouble updating when in navigating (at least with the demo vehicle).
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19:14 #navit: <@cp15> Celelibi, what results do you get with sdl?
19:18 #navit: < Celelibi> no cursor, and when I get one, it doesn't move.
19:19 #navit: < Celelibi> Just like it would lack a repaint() or something.
19:21 #navit: < Celelibi> I have to zoom-out and zoom-in to make the display refreshed.
19:23 #navit: <@cp15> Have you set follow="1" for the vehicle?
19:23 #navit: < Celelibi> yes
19:23 #navit: <@cp15> Then the map should be redrawn on each gps update
19:23 #navit: < Celelibi> I'm using the Demo vehicle.
19:23 #navit: <@cp15> Shouldn't make a difference
19:24 #navit: < Celelibi> Also, the map is redrawn every time the cursor *should* go out of the window, even if I can't see it move.
19:25 #navit: <@cp15> Are you sure you have enabled follow="1"
19:25 #navit: <@cp15> The symptom sounds exactly like it isn't enabled
19:25 #navit: < Celelibi> let me check.
19:25 #navit: <@cp15> Because sdl lacks the capability to redraw osds independent of the map
19:26 #navit: < Celelibi> ok, this is a special configuration for sdl.
19:33 #navit: < Celelibi> cp15: that follow attribute is one thing I was planning to whine about. :p
19:34 #navit: < Celelibi> And, any idea why I get white squares in the upper corners when I activate some OSD widgets?
19:35 #navit: < Celelibi> (still with sdl)
19:37 #navit: <@cp15> Can you make a screenshot and paste the relevant parts of your navit.xml?
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19:42 #navit: < Ceelvain> http://data.imagup.com/10/1170784694.png
19:42 #navit: < Ceelvain> http://pastebin.com/cLmWAZrn
19:42 #navit: < Celelibi> cp15: Ceelvain is my other computer I run navit on.
19:43 #navit: <@cp15> Hmm... Looks like sdl doesn't handle transparency right
19:43 #navit: < Celelibi> I think I get it... these are xpm files.
19:43 #navit: < Celelibi> the png works fine.
19:44 #navit: <@cp15> If you are good in inkscape you could draw svgs from the remaining xpms. That would also solve your problem :-)
19:46 #navit: < Celelibi> I think I'm better at tikz. ^^
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19:47 #navit: <@cp15> Since you are from france, can you confirm this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/navit/forums/forum/512959/topic/6419312
19:48 #navit: <@cp15> Well, you could also use tikz (Never heard of it before, but sounds quite interesting)
19:48 #navit: < Celelibi> I use it for my latex documents.
19:48 #navit: < Celelibi> (which is its primary use)
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19:50 #navit: < Celelibi> looks like it's just my config that is a bit old. Those xpm actually have corresponding svg's.
19:51 #navit: <@cp15>  Fine then :-)
19:51 #navit: <@cp15> What are you planning to do if I may ask?
19:52 #navit: < Celelibi> about... what?
19:52 #navit: < Celelibi> I'm currently trying to understand the bug you showed me. :p
19:53 #navit: <@cp15> What are you planning to do with navit? SDL is a quite unusual config :-)
19:54 #navit: < Celelibi> nothing special. I tried it and it just look better than gtk_drawing_area.
19:54 #navit: <@cp15> Really? Surprising... The drawing primitives should be the same
19:56 #navit: < Celelibi> It have anti-aliasing.
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19:57 #navit: <@cp15> Maybe we should switch to cairo, but at my last test some years ago it had some serious performance issues
20:00 #navit: < Celelibi> well my config file is definitely too old. I have osd eta and a few others that have been remplaced by odometer.
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20:26 #navit: < Celelibi> <cp15> Since you are from france, can you confirm this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/navit/forums/forum/512959/topic/6419312 <-- I still don't understand this.
20:31 #navit: < xenos1984> maybe the french map is broken? i had this problem with navit maps from some sources once, but i don't remember which source it was (may be deelkar or cloudmade or something else, it was not from the navit website)
20:31 #navit: < Celelibi> it works fine for me. I can click on the map to chose my destination, or pick one from a former destination.
20:32 #navit: < Celelibi> Or even from favorits.
20:32 #navit: < Celelibi> bookmarks*
20:36 #navit: < Ceelvain> How often are updated the maps linked in the Quick Start section? http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMap
20:38 #navit: <@cp15> maps.navit-project.org is updated daily
20:39 #navit: <@cp15> About 10:00 UTC there is a new version available which contains everything up to midnight of the previous day
20:39 #navit: < Celelibi> nice. I made a few correction around my next destination during the last days. ^^
20:43 #navit: < Celelibi> Looks like france has grown 200MB since june. :p
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21:15 #navit: < Celelibi> Can I display an OSD text item only when in routing mode?
21:21 #navit: <@cp15> Depends on its content... If it doesn't contain any routing related data it will also work without routing
21:22 #navit: < Celelibi> it does. And there is also constant text.
21:23 #navit: < Celelibi> I'd like to see "ETA : 12:34 (7 min)" or something like that.
21:23 #navit: < Celelibi> But the variables used are empty when not in routing mode.
21:24 #navit: < Celelibi> Which display "ETA :  ()"
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21:48 #navit: < Celelibi> Wow.
21:48 #navit: < Celelibi> France have been fixed and is no longer an underwater country. :)
21:48 #navit: < Celelibi> I discover new colors on the map. :D
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