--- Log opened Sun Dec 30 00:00:39 2012 00:38 -!- woglinde [~henning@g225006080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 00:50 -!- woglinde [~henning@g225006080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:03 -!- cp15` [zguhxn@p57B1C074.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:03 -!- cp15 [tlfldp@p57B1C8E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:03 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:04 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 04:02 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:350d::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:07 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:4e36:79df::1] has joined #navit 06:39 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-98-248-56-123.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:50 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-98-248-56-123.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 07:22 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-98-248-56-123.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:23 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-98-248-56-123.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 07:50 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 10:44 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052232157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 11:22 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052232157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:16 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:44 -!- riess82 [~riess82@d86-32-233-15.cust.tele2.at] has joined #navit 14:44 #navit: < riess82> hi everyone 14:46 #navit: < riess82> i'm new to navit and osm, can someone help me with a problem: i am missing one (maybe more) cities in the adress search 16:05 #navit: <@cp15> riess82, austria I assume? 16:33 #navit: < riess82> yes 16:35 #navit: < riess82> the city of "Gmunden" shows up in OSM like it should in the search results, unfortunately not in Navit 16:40 #navit: <@cp15> Possible reasons: 16:42 #navit: <@cp15> The town doesn't have right tagging (place=city,hamlet,suburb,town or village) 16:42 #navit: <@cp15> It doesn't have an is_in tag 16:42 #navit: <@cp15> The polygon of AT is broken 16:43 #navit: < riess82> ok, i'll check these in OSM 16:44 #navit: < riess82> is in needs AT, anything else is optional, right? 16:53 #navit: <@cp15> Either is_in or a closed country polygon 16:53 #navit: <@cp15> place=* is also mandatory 16:55 #navit: < riess82> ok, i added the is_in, will check back tomorrow, download the map again and see what happens 16:55 #navit: < riess82> thanks for the help 16:55 #navit: <@cp15> Thank you too 16:58 -!- riess82 [~riess82@d86-32-233-15.cust.tele2.at] has left #navit [] 18:05 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 20:39 -!- dazi [54a8d9bb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.168.217.187] has joined #navit 20:40 #navit: < dazi> Hi. 20:44 #navit: < dazi> Spend the whole day to install navit on a PDA (windows mobile 2003). But obviously the GPS does not work. 20:46 #navit: < dazi> I found several sveral hints to modify the XML but still it does not work. 20:49 #navit: < dazi> I don't know, if the GPS is not working, or if it's the interface to navit. 20:50 #navit: < xenos1984> which type of pda is it? 20:50 #navit: < xenos1984> does the gps work with other applications? 20:50 #navit: < dazi> Is there a way to display the current GPS-status? 20:51 #navit: < dazi> its a yakumo delta 300 GPS 20:51 #navit: < dazi> and yes - it was working with TomTom before 20:53 #navit: < xenos1984> there should be a way to display the raw output from the gps 20:54 #navit: < xenos1984> (although i cannot find the correct menu entry at the moment) 20:54 #navit: < dazi> that's what I am looking for 20:55 #navit: < xenos1984> i think it should be somewhere in settings / vehicle ... 20:57 #navit: < dazi> for a newbie like me, the XML is very hard stuff :-) 20:57 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 21:02 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, this is certainly true ;) 21:03 #navit: < xenos1984> how does the gps definition in your navit.xml look like? 21:04 #navit: < dazi> 21:05 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i'm not familiar with this wince stuff... 21:06 #navit: < dazi> :-) me neither 21:07 #navit: < xenos1984> does the gps appear in the list in the settings / vehicles menu? 21:08 #navit: < dazi> you mean in the XML? 21:08 #navit: < xenos1984> no, in the navit program menu 21:09 #navit: < dazi> no 21:09 #navit: < xenos1984> this is strange... 21:10 #navit: < dazi> ahh ... wait 21:11 #navit: < dazi> in settings i have "Fahrzeug". When I click that, then it displays "Local GPS" with a green Checked-mark 21:11 #navit: < dazi> is that what u mean? 21:12 #navit: < dazi> and does this mean, that navit found a GPS? 21:12 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, yes - so you have the german interface, good ;) 21:12 #navit: < xenos1984> it means that you configured it in the settings 21:12 #navit: < xenos1984> if you click on "Local GPS", which options do you get? 21:12 #navit: < dazi> yes. sorry - I'm german :-) 21:12 #navit: < xenos1984> great - me too :) 21:14 #navit: < dazi> 4 times "Profil ändern nach" Truck, Pferd, Fußgänger, Fahrrad - all 4 inactive 21:14 #navit: < dazi> and one which is active: "actual Profil: Auto" 21:16 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... nothing else? something like "NMEA Daten"? 21:16 #navit: < dazi> no 21:17 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... 21:19 #navit: < xenos1984> i really have no idea what might be wrong here... 21:22 #navit: < dazi> Thanks anyway. 21:22 #navit: < dazi> maybe someone else has any idea. 21:25 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, i hope that someone with more experience on wince can help ;) 21:27 #navit: < xenos1984> just one more thing: are you sure that the port (com2) and connection parameters are correct? 21:27 #navit: <@cp15> Especially the 2400 baud seems suspicious 21:28 #navit: <@cp15> You can try to install http://www.visualgps.net/visualgpsce/default.htm 21:28 #navit: <@cp15> to find out the correct port and baud rate 21:29 #navit: < dazi> :-) you catch me :-) 21:29 #navit: < dazi> 2400 was working with TomTom - that's sure 21:30 #navit: <@cp15> The NMEA menu entry should appear once navit finds a valid nmea sentence 21:30 #navit: < dazi> but today I tried also an other navi. I forgot the name. GPS-xxx. There was an option for automatic search for the GPS-device 21:31 #navit: < dazi> and there it was 4800 baud ... which was a big surprise for me 21:31 #navit: <@cp15> 4800 is the default baud rate for nmea 21:31 #navit: < dazi> nevertheless ... it displayed some satelites with this settings 21:32 #navit: < dazi> ok. so i will try with 4800 21:33 #navit: <@cp15> Also I think the syntax is wrong 21:33 #navit: < dazi> but the link with the visualGPS is also very helpful !! 21:33 #navit: < dazi> ahh? 21:33 #navit: <@cp15> Try source="wince:COM2:" baud="4800" 21:33 #navit: < dazi> ok 21:35 #navit: < dazi> you mean all parameters separately? 21:36 #navit: <@cp15> Yes, you can also omit 8, n and 1. And not the colon after COM2 21:36 #navit: <@cp15> .. note the colon ... 21:36 #navit: <@cp15> Yes, autoscan would be nice... 21:39 #navit: < dazi> so the complete line looks like ... 21:39 #navit: < dazi> 21:40 #navit: <@cp15> Looks fine if COM2 and 4800 is correct :-) 21:40 #navit: < dazi> just restarting ... :-) 21:43 #navit: < dazi> well ... there is a big change .... it does not start any more :-) 21:46 #navit: <@cp15> Great :-) 21:47 #navit: <@cp15> There should be a navit.log somewhere. Can you paste the last few lines? 21:49 #navit: < dazi> vehicle_wince:initDevice:Waiting to connect to COM2 baud=2400 parity=N data=8 stop=1 gui_internal:gui_internal_set_refresh_callback:cond=(null) vehicle_wince:initDevice:Waiting to connect to COM2 baud=2400 parity=N data=8 stop=1 vehicle_wince:initDevice:Waiting to connect to COM2 baud=2400 parity=N data=8 stop=1 gui_internal:gui_internal_set_refresh_callback:cond=(null) vehicle_wince:initDevice:Waiting to connect to COM2 baud=2400 parit 21:49 #navit: < xenos1984> 2400 again? 21:50 #navit: < dazi> Hmm ... yes I saw it. obviously this is still the old 21:51 -!- woglinde [~henning@g229047186.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 21:51 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... this is strange... 21:51 #navit: < xenos1984> hi woglinde 21:51 #navit: <@cp15> Ahh... I think I got it 21:51 #navit: <@cp15> 21:51 #navit: <@cp15> The slash at the end is probably wrong 21:53 #navit: < dazi> wow :-) 21:53 #navit: <@cp15> Now it works? 21:54 #navit: < dazi> it was wrong :-) 21:54 #navit: < dazi> it is starting - yes :-) 21:54 #navit: <@cp15> Can you see the nmea menu entry in the vehicle setting? 21:55 #navit: < dazi> no . still same behaviour 21:55 #navit: <@cp15> Hmm... Then I guess you have to try out visual gps 21:56 #navit: < xenos1984> what does the navit.log say this time? is it still "waiting to connect"? 21:56 #navit: < dazi> still 2400 21:56 #navit: < dazi> can I delete the log? 21:56 #navit: <@cp15> Yes 21:59 #navit: < dazi> at least some change .... 21:59 #navit: < dazi> a lot of lines like: vehicle_wince:wince_reader_thread:GPS data comes too fast. Have to wait here 21:59 #navit: < dazi> and : vehicle_wince:vehicle_wince_io:Overflow. Most likely wrong baud rate or no nmea protocol 22:02 #navit: < dazi> I just tried it again - with 2400 22:03 #navit: < dazi> the first lines of the log are: 22:03 #navit: < dazi> navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'baud' with value '2400' 22:03 #navit: < dazi> navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'parity' with value 'N' 22:03 #navit: < dazi> navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'stop' with value '1' 22:04 #navit: <@cp15> Ok, change baud to baudrate 22:04 #navit: < xenos1984> cp15: you were 15 seconds faster than me 22:04 #navit: < woglinde> hi 22:05 #navit: < woglinde> hm wiki wrong? 22:05 #navit: * xenos1984 was just reading the source and found that it should be baudrate="4800" 22:05 #navit: < dazi> what about parity and stop? 22:06 #navit: <@cp15> You don't need them 22:07 #navit: <@cp15> Actually the navit.xml comments seem to be wrong... Or it is different between win32 and wince... Hmm... 22:07 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08 #navit: < dazi> Hey ... :-) :-) 22:08 #navit: < dazi> Now i have "satelitenstaus anzeigen" :-) 22:09 #navit: < dazi> and Nmea-Daten also :-) 22:09 #navit: <@cp15> Great, than it seems to work. You just have to wait until you have a fix which can take quite some time on wince due to the missing agps 22:09 #navit: <@cp15> What was the correct vehicle tag? 22:10 #navit: < dazi> you are great !!! Thanks 22:10 #navit: < dazi> 22:10 #navit: <@cp15> And what is your device? 22:10 #navit: <@cp15> I will put it in the wiki 22:11 #navit: < dazi> device??? 22:11 #navit: < woglinde> not gps 22:11 #navit: < woglinde> the device where you are running navit 22:11 #navit: <@cp15> The brand and model of your device 22:12 #navit: < dazi> ahh :-) 22:13 #navit: < dazi> Yakumo Delta 300 GPS with Windows mobile 2003 (v4.20) 22:20 #navit: < dazi> I did not expect that fast help. So ... thanks again !! 22:21 #navit: <@cp15> dazi, since the wince port is a bit orphaned currently it would be nice if you could test it from time to time and report if it stops working 22:22 #navit: < dazi> no problem 22:23 #navit: < dazi> whereto? here? or PM? 22:24 #navit: <@cp15> Here, or if you don't get any response: My nick (at) navit-project.org 22:25 #navit: < dazi> BTW: I am using Navit 0.2.0 now 22:25 #navit: <@cp15> I would recommend the svn version. There have been many changes since 0.2.0 22:26 #navit: < dazi> the one I started with :-) 22:27 #navit: < dazi> what is the meaning of "svn"? 22:28 #navit: <@cp15> svn=Subversion. Our source code management system 22:28 #navit: <@cp15> Our build server gets the newest version from subversion and compiles it every day 22:29 #navit: < dazi> then I should use navit-current from SVN? 22:39 #navit: <@cp15> Or the svn version with the highest number (navit-current is just a link to it, but downloading the highest number makes them easier to distinguish if you have downloaded more than one) 22:40 #navit: < dazi> just installing 5333 22:40 #navit: <@cp15> BTW: Where are you from? 22:43 #navit: < dazi> Nürnberg 22:44 #navit: <@cp15> Oh, then we aren't too remote, I am close to ingolstadt... Ok, right now I am in hamburg 22:45 #navit: < dazi> Hamburg ... wow :-) 22:46 #navit: < dazi> you live there now? Or just for visit? 22:48 #navit: <@cp15> Just for visit. I was at the ccc congress 22:49 #navit: < dazi> ahh - ok. 22:49 #navit: <@cp15> I will go to bed now 22:49 #navit: <@cp15> Good night 22:49 #navit: < xenos1984> gn8 cp15 22:50 #navit: < dazi> :-) gn8 ... and thanks again !! 23:48 -!- dazi [54a8d9bb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.168.217.187] has quit [Quit: Page closed] --- Log closed Mon Dec 31 00:00:39 2012