--- Log opened Tue Jan 08 00:00:39 2013 03:00 -!- cp15` [vhpbbb@p57B1CFD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:00 -!- cp15 [prbpfc@p57B1CF89.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:00 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 03:01 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 04:02 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:5ce0:36d6::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:07 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2002:4e36:122d::1] has joined #navit 06:13 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: drlizau 06:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: drlizau 06:16 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@ip-88-212-35-8.antik.sk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:37 -!- ventyl [~ventyl@ip-88-212-35-8.antik.sk] has joined #navit 07:38 -!- ventyl is now known as ventYl 07:44 -!- Tauso [~Thunderbi@line1.magix.net] has joined #navit 08:01 -!- hape [~hape@open7x0.xnc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:01 -!- hape [~hape@open7x0.xnc.de] has joined #navit 08:07 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@178.216.76.16] has joined #navit 08:19 -!- Thomas___ [~chatzilla@80.83.97.189] has joined #navit 08:22 -!- Thomas___ [~chatzilla@80.83.97.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:24 -!- Maddin_ [~chatzilla@80.83.97.189] has joined #navit 08:24 #navit: < Maddin_> hello @ all... is anybody out there? 08:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi Maddin_ 08:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> welcome, and don't ask to ask, just ask :) 09:26 #navit: < Maddin_> uuups ... sorry.... was away at phone 09:26 #navit: < Maddin_> now again :-) 09:28 #navit: < Maddin_> is there a way to force start navigation? 09:28 #navit: < Maddin_> i start navit, input target and nothing happens 09:32 #navit: < Maddin_> if i start driving, cursor starts driving too on the map, actual speed is show, sometimes difference to target ist show, but navigation don't start 09:33 #navit: < Tauso> Hello, sometimes I have the same problem on my android phone (milestone 2 512MB RAM) with routes > 150km. I had to change the routh_depth configuration to get it work. http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuration/Full_list_of_options -> vehicleprofile -> route_depth 09:36 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, it's an android phone too, a Galaxy S3. And the depth of all my tries are smaller then 100 km 09:38 #navit: < Maddin_> is that an parameter to put in navit.xml? 09:40 #navit: < Tauso> yes the default paramater for vehicleprofile "car" is route_depth="4:25%,8:40000,18:10000" and i changed it to route_depth="4:25%,8:40000,18:10000". The wiki states: "Caveat: increasing the size of rectangles or raising the road order will increase the number of roads that need to be examined to calculate a route. This will increase the time and memory needed to calculate routes. It may cause longer routes to fail due to low memory. As a workaround, you c 09:40 #navit: < Tauso> route_depth="4:25%,6:1%,8:40000,18:10000"" 09:41 #navit: < Tauso> but i think the Galaxy S3 has enough memory, so maybe an othr problem 09:45 #navit: < Maddin_> in an earlier version of navit - i think 5332 *hmmm*- there is placed an arrow in the right upper corner. if touch it, after enter target, navigation starts, and arrows goes away. 09:48 #navit: < Maddin_> sometimes, if i leave the route, navit don't re-calc automatically, but shows the arrow again. If i touch it again, navit starts navigation immediately at the new way 09:50 #navit: < Maddin_> now i have installed the actual version, but there is no Arrow to force start navigation.sometimes it starts navigation automatically, sometimes not. if i leave the route, it don't re-calc the route 09:56 #navit: < Maddin_> in the navit-options, settings if navit is running, there is one special option: Settings->Maps-Navigation. This one is always "X". If I select this option, next time I start Navit it is "X" again. Is this maybe the problem? 10:28 #navit: < Tauso> No I don't think so, if "navigation" is enabled it just shows some navigation pictograms (next turn right etc.) directly on the map. 10:36 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has joined #navit 10:42 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has joined #navit 11:19 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, that's possible. I test the effect today if I switch this option 11:20 #navit: < Maddin_> but, the primary question is: "How can I force starting the Navigation, if it don't start by himself?" 11:24 #navit: < Maddin_> perhaps it is also a user-error. 11:29 #navit: < Maddin_> First I start navit from Desktop. Then touch on center of screen, choose "Actions", choose "Town" (Ort) and enter Town-Name, then enter "Street", and at last "No. of House" (if possible). Then "Set as Target". That's all.... 11:32 #navit: < Maddin_> I have used in the previous Post my own Translates. Maybe some Translations from the German-Navit maybe wrong....but i think, anybody knows, what is mean. 11:33 #navit: < Tauso> Could you test if navigation works if you just press long on the map and use "set as targe (Ziel setzen)t". 11:35 #navit: < Maddin_> to enter a target is not the problem. it is allways possible to enter a target and let navit show him on the map. 11:35 #navit: < Maddin_> navit zeigt sofort beim Start, wo ich mich befinden und markiert das ziel mit der fahne. 11:37 #navit: < Maddin_> but it does not calculate the route and say no instructions. Only the cursor follows my real drive carefully on the map 11:37 #navit: < Maddin_> uups 11:37 #navit: < Maddin_> 2. try....... navit shows immediately on startup, where I find myself and marked the target with the flag. 11:37 #navit: < Tauso> Have you tried another vehicle profile under settings - vehicles 11:38 #navit: < Maddin_> no, not yet 11:38 #navit: < Tauso> do you have a self editet navit.xml? 11:40 #navit: < Maddin_> later I I'll try truck-profile. that's what's important to me. (caravan) 11:41 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, selb-editet. I have extract the embedded navi.xml from the Install.APK as himself.(Path = res/raw.....). 11:45 #navit: < Maddin_> First I set the MAP-Path to extern SDCart. Then I try to change the OSD-Section. I need the actual Speed, Speed-Warner, Diff. to Target (Time, KM). I have to paid in Belgium 50€... I was 4 KM/h to fast :-(. Speedwarner is very important. 11:49 #navit: < Maddin_> That ist the Base of my OSD-Changes: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OSD_Layouts#Android_layout_800x480 . I have replace the orginal OSD-Section with this code. But my Problem is older... 11:56 #navit: < Tauso> Maybe its possible to debug it via logging 12:42 #navit: < Maddin_> Debugging in the developer-environment? With Trace-Outputs, etc....? 12:43 #navit: < Maddin_> Oh... That's not possible to me.... i'm not a programmer 12:45 #navit: < Tauso> No, i think, there is a debugging option in navit.xml, but I've never used it. I'm just a navit user too 12:47 #navit: < Maddin_> good idea... I'll see if I find it 12:50 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, there various debug-options inside navit.xml. Have to see, how it works.... *hmmm* 12:55 -!- toatwork [5a92118e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.146.17.142] has joined #navit 12:57 #navit: < toatwork> Hi there! 12:57 #navit: < Maddin_> Hi 12:57 #navit: < toatwork> I have Nexus S running Android 4.1.2 12:58 #navit: < toatwork> Every time I start Navit I see the Android configuration screen with the installed text-to-speech modules (in my case German only) but I can't choose anything. Therefore I push the back button an Navit starts up. Everything seems fine - except that there is no speech any more. 12:58 #navit: < Maddin_> 4.1.2 me too 12:58 #navit: < toatwork> It has worked before on ICS 13:00 #navit: < toatwork> same problem or same device? 13:00 #navit: < Maddin_> same OS :-) anaother hardware, another problem 13:02 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@vpn-106-040.ras.uni-rostock.de] has joined #navit 13:02 #navit: < Usul1> hi folks :) 13:02 -!- Usul1 is now known as Usul1_busy 13:02 #navit: < Tauso> Had the same problem until i've downloaded the other 3 or languages (spanisch, french..) too 13:03 #navit: < toatwork> Thats worth a try! 13:04 #navit: < tryagain> Tauso where you have downloaded other languages? I don't know of any language packs for navit... 13:05 #navit: < toatwork> I guess he is talking about the Android TTS in the settings 13:06 #navit: < toatwork> Great - that dialog is not showing any more! But I have no GPS in my office building... 13:08 #navit: < tryagain> You can select any point and set it as position (and disable current vehicle), then go to menu->settings->vehicles and reenable your vehicle. 13:08 #navit: < Maddin_> toatwork, maybe you had sometime a similar problem as I do, that navit not start by itself with the navigation, only the map with start and target is displayed, but no route? 13:09 #navit: < tryagain> Maddin_ can you give some more details, where do you start yoiur route from and where's its endpoint? 13:10 #navit: < toatwork> Maddin, no navigation always worked fine, it is just that at startup I saw (until 30 seconds ago) always the android settings dialog for installed language files. I cancelled that dialog but the navigation worked fine (except for audio guidance) 13:13 #navit: < tryagain> We could have some problems building long routes though some countries (Czech). Changing route_depth should help there. Also, for strong devices it might help just switching to car_pedantic vehicle profile. 13:14 #navit: < Maddin_> I use the navit-gui to enter target, city, street, No. of House. Then "Set as Target".... that's all.... Navit switch to Map-Display. Place of me is known as GPS-Signal and marked with Car-Cursor, Target is marked on the Map with a Flag.... but no Route, no Driving-Instructions 13:15 #navit: < tryagain> How far are the target points placed? It would be better if you name exact cities. Does it fail for intracity route too? 13:16 #navit: < Maddin_> I'am new Navit-User.... only a few days... i test it always with short ranges.... max 50 km 13:18 #navit: < tryagain> For, 50 km, it should not depend on vehicle profile. 13:19 #navit: < Maddin_> always small ranges.... and everytime exactly informations entered. City-Name, Street-Name, No. of Hous is possible 13:20 #navit: < tryagain> And you see a flag on the target? Sometimes you may hit same street in other city... 13:20 #navit: < tryagain> What if you just rename your modified navit.xml so navit doesnt find it and try with stock one? 13:21 #navit: < Maddin_> I enter the target not via the menu-key, instead use a touch on map, than "Actions", and so on..... 13:22 #navit: < tryagain> that's how i do, it should work 13:22 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, Car-Cursor is placed correctly, Target-Flag is placed correctly.... but not Route between, and no Insttructions.... If i start my Car, the Car-Cursor follows correctly on the map 13:23 #navit: < tryagain> Where have you got your binfile map from? maps.navit-project.org or some other source? 13:24 #navit: < Maddin_> few seconds...... 13:25 #navit: < Maddin_> my own "maps" from Planet-Extractor fails..... then I have download predefined Country-Maps..... 13:25 #navit: < Maddin_> from here the preselect Maps: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMap 13:28 #navit: < tryagain> Link begins with http://maps.navit-project.org... ok, your map should be good. 13:31 #navit: < tryagain> what if you enable settings->maps->route graph. You should get a picture like http://trac.navit-project.org/attachment/ticket/1039/Route_Graph_and_Nav.png 13:32 #navit: < tryagain> when you zoom enough 13:32 #navit: < toatwork> Tauso, thanks you solved my problem! 13:33 #navit: < tryagain> note these red arrows. They should be visible everywhere on the map, from your starting point to the nedpoint. 13:33 #navit: < tryagain> *endpoint 13:34 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, pink lines present.... i can switch them on and off.... that works fine 13:34 #navit: < toatwork> Maddin try to enter that target without the street number. When I have been outside I had the same issue with my home address - then removed the street number and it worked 13:35 #navit: < Maddin_> street-no means no of house? 13:35 #navit: < Tauso> toatwork your welcome, but i don't think thats a real solution, maybe a workaround. I think it's a bug somwhere either in android navit port or in the android tts engine. 13:37 #navit: < tryagain> ok, so route graph is built ok, can you see them around your standing point? Is your standing point (or closest way crossings) marked with a pink number like in example above? 13:37 #navit: < Maddin_> no, it is not the tts-engine..... the bright green route-mark is not present. if the route is calculatet, a bright green line follows from start to target. this one is missing 13:39 #navit: < Maddin_> tryagain, it is not a exactly route-graph.... the pink lines are all about the map, at every street, not alone at the streets between start and target 13:39 #navit: < toatwork> Tauso as long as it is working now ;-) 13:40 #navit: < tryagain> well, that;s what we name route graph. What you're looking for, we name route. ;) 13:40 #navit: < tryagain> Do you have Settings->Maps->Route enabled? Is there anything in Route->Route description 13:40 #navit: < toatwork> Maddin you missunderstood me. I am not talking about TTS. When I entered the street number I got no navigation (the nice green lines next to the road) 13:41 #navit: < toatwork> Entering only the street name it worked fine 13:44 #navit: < Maddin_> Setting->Maps->Route is eneabled. In Settings->Route is no Option "Route", only "Description" and "Height-Profile"? 13:44 #navit: < Maddin_> Description is empty 13:46 #navit: < Maddin_> toatwork, how you solve the problem, if to search manually a very long street... 13:47 #navit: < tryagain> ok, description is empty so no route is calculated. Do you have pink numbers around your standing point? 13:54 #navit: < toatwork> Maddin it may sound stupid, but I am using navigation only for long distances (500 - 1000 km). When I have arrived at the correct street I am first of all happy - and the performing a manual search for the street number.... 13:54 #navit: < Maddin_> *hmmm*... the pink lines are very fine lines..... includes very small arrows.... and I think,also includes numbers... but i cannot zoom-out enough so I can read this 13:54 #navit: < toatwork> Maddin but does navigation work on street basis on your device? 13:57 #navit: < Maddin_> it's crazy... I try something with active Navit, near my Window... 10-15 Minutes along... with activ GPS... and then it calculations normally (with predefined Target), it speaks to me, green line is present... exactly so, it have to be... 13:59 #navit: < Maddin_> no, somethmes it worsk, sometimes it works not... my first question was "How I find the Start-Navigation-Button? In an earlier Version there was an Start-Button in the right upper corner.... an Arrow... if I touch the Arrow, Navit has start calculate 14:01 #navit: < Maddin_> that the problem.... sometimes I enter Target and nothing happens.... Target-Flag is placed and finish.... but nothing go on... no Instructios, no Street-Marking.... 14:02 #navit: < tryagain> With the same target? 14:02 #navit: < Maddin_> In the eralier Version help's this Start-Button... seems it force to start caculat... I also use this Button, if recalc is wantet, if I leave the route 14:02 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, same target 14:02 #navit: < toatwork> Just a wild guess: what does navit if you are "off the road" at the beginning of the navigation? 14:03 #navit: < toatwork> Can it calculate a route then? 14:03 #navit: < Maddin_> different day... i try it a few days.... every day the same... in the morning dorsten->bottrop, afternoon bottrop->Dorsten... < 20 km 14:04 #navit: < tryagain> for offroad, it should depend how much have you got off. You'll get a stragiht line to the closest road, or nothing. 14:05 #navit: < Maddin_> sometimes it works, sometimes it works not.... in version 5332 (???) the named arrow in the right upper corner was the solution. He was present initial and again after route-change 14:06 #navit: < Maddin_> no. only regualr roads, highway, not off-road.... 14:06 #navit: < Maddin_> ony (for insiders) "Ruhrgebiet".... 14:08 #navit: < Maddin_> sometimes a green straight line, sometimes no green straight line...... that is the problem... i cannot say, now it works, or this try don't work's. 14:10 #navit: < Maddin_> how long is the time, Navit can fix the GPS and is ready to start navigation? I always start navit,enter Data and think, it has to run immediately 14:11 #navit: < tryagain> Maddin_ your button is most probably is this one, but it should not be related to routing and navigation. It just switches follow mode for your vehicle 14:12 #navit: < tryagain> it has probably disappeared after you have switched to custom navit.xml which doesnt include it 14:12 #navit: < Maddin_> Mostly I start first GPS, then Navit.... sometimes start first Navit, then GPS... because I have forgotten GPS... but the effect is the same 14:14 #navit: < tryagain> Navit shouldnt have any lag between your device catches the signal and navit is able to use it. Anyway, you can set your position manually without actual GPS signal. 14:14 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, tryagain, this is the button. 14:14 #navit: < Maddin_> *hmmm* 14:15 #navit: < tryagain> and does it really help? 14:17 #navit: < Maddin_> I have extracted from the APK. There is no foreign XLM. 14:18 #navit: < tryagain> so you have that button defined in your xml but it is not shown? 14:19 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, it seems to me, that it helps....... navit stand still... i touch the Button and it runs ,,, 14:19 #navit: < tryagain> does it always help you? 14:20 #navit: < Maddin_> No, I have just searched in XML... not found.... *hmmm*... 14:21 #navit: < Maddin_> don't know, that it always help... It seems... but, it is possible, that I want so.... *hmmm 14:22 #navit: < Maddin_> many times press the button, and Navit runs.... the fact is, that i cannot say, that this action really solve the problem, or that is a random effect 14:25 #navit: < Maddin_> ok... i will try following... i extract the navit-xlm from the installed apk. And I change only the Pathes to Maps 14:26 #navit: < tryagain> Why do you change pathes to the map? Can't you simply place your maps to /sdcard/navit? 14:26 #navit: < Maddin_> at second i will search the cursor_64_64.png.... and do a compare with a older versions ... i remember, 5332 was my first installed navit.... think so.... 14:28 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, thats a way too. but it's a small intern SD-Card with free space 10 GB.... try to locate the problem, I will do it.... 14:32 #navit: < Maddin_> Are the Navit-programming instructions equal to the instructions of unchanged Navit.XLM? 14:33 #navit: < tryagain> programming instructions? 14:34 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, uses Navit always a Navit.xml or uses navit hard-coded instructions is no xml is given? 14:36 #navit: < tryagain> navit has three versions of navit.xml in the apk, one of which it will choose depending on device resolution. Would it find custom navit.xml, it would use that file. 14:36 #navit: < Maddin_> this question means, uses navit always a XML, either integrated or "extern" in my Dir "SDCard/Navit"? 14:37 #navit: < tryagain> yes, it cant run without a navit.xml 14:38 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, it seems easy to find.... they called differend... hdpi, ldpi, mdpi.... hdpi is the right to me 14:39 #navit: < tryagain> so nothing is hardcoded besides these three files in apk. 14:40 #navit: < Maddin_> So, in other words, with the appropriate xml I can start the adjustments .... 14:40 #navit: < tryagain> yes 14:41 #navit: < tryagain> and if you change nothing, it would be the same as you run it without external config 14:43 #navit: < Maddin_> I try as I said, first time the cards in the internal directory, then extract and save the xml to extSDCard and set the map-directories ... and then test to see if the behavior changes. 14:43 #navit: < Maddin_> :-) 14:44 #navit: < tryagain> do you have more than one map at the same time? 14:45 #navit: < Maddin_> set path to map is not really a relevant change....? 14:45 #navit: < tryagain> if you have identical maps at both places, it shouldnt matter :) 14:46 #navit: < Maddin_> yes, German, Belgium, France and Italy.... I set 4 Path-Directions.... not "*.bin", but every single in the Map-section 14:47 #navit: < tryagain> BTW..... I probably have told a small lie... I think navit on android will seek for maps in /sdcard/navit/*.bin . So you will have duplicate map references if you have maps there. 14:50 #navit: < Maddin_> *ooops*.... is it better to *.bin instead single entries each map? 14:51 #navit: < tryagain> if you place maps on /sdcard/navit, then no reference is probably needed at all. If you place them on your external card, reference them as is easier for you. 14:52 #navit: < tryagain> but remember to remove or rename maps from internal sdcard if you connect same maps from another location 14:54 #navit: < Maddin_> is there a possibility to meet you here again at another time ? 14:55 #navit: < Maddin_> without a reference to external SCcart and no Maps inside Navit want a download 14:56 #navit: < Maddin_> I will try to use *.bin...... and no one other changes.... 14:57 #navit: < Maddin_> first maps inside, second try maps extern und *.bin... and see behavior.... 14:57 #navit: < Maddin_> if *.bin not works, i change it to single-instruction.... 14:58 #navit: < Maddin_> step by step to locate/solve the problem.... 14:59 #navit: < Maddin_> sometimes you visit here again? 15:02 #navit: < Maddin_> ok... thank you... bye 15:02 -!- Maddin_ [~chatzilla@80.83.97.189] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725]] 15:04 #navit: < tryagain> well i have to go now too. I'm here at ~22CET on workdays. I usually read logs, so you can ask your question if i'm offline. If you read logs. 15:04 #navit: < tryagain> :) 15:32 -!- toatwork [5a92118e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.146.17.142] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:46 -!- Usul1_busy [~matthias@vpn-106-040.ras.uni-rostock.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:00 -!- Tauso [~Thunderbi@line1.magix.net] has quit [Quit: Tauso] 16:24 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@stw-105-225.ras.uni-rostock.de] has joined #navit 16:25 #navit: < Usul1> I be back :D 17:02 -!- Usul11 [~matthias@stw-105-152.ras.uni-rostock.de] has joined #navit 17:53 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 17:53 #navit: < xenos1984> hi everybody 17:54 #navit: < xenos1984> tryagain: are german and austrian borders working again? 18:03 #navit: < Usul1> hi 18:03 -!- Usul11 [~matthias@stw-105-152.ras.uni-rostock.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:07 #navit: < xenos1984> hi Usul1 18:12 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:12 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has joined #navit 18:16 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has joined #navit 18:57 -!- Thomas___ [~chatzilla@i5E86A486.versanet.de] has joined #navit 18:57 -!- Thomas___ is now known as Maddin 18:58 -!- Maddin [~chatzilla@i5E86A486.versanet.de] has quit [Client Quit] 18:59 -!- Maddin_R [~chatzilla@i5E86A486.versanet.de] has joined #navit 19:01 #navit: < Maddin_R> Hi tryagain :-) I read the logs too ... first time and see your post 19:05 #navit: < Maddin_R> ok... i have done something... first test without a custom xml and copy german.bin to SDCard.... wow.... what's that.... it runs faster than a bullet... 19:08 #navit: < Maddin_R> second test, I take the origin xml, copy it to navit.dir and set Map's to extSDCard as *.bin.... no more as single... also fast again ... *fine* 19:09 #navit: < Maddin_R> in both tests navigation starts immediately, so it should be.... 19:11 #navit: < Maddin_R> possibly i got some problems with the changes of the downloaded xml-files... 19:19 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 19:20 #navit: < Maddin_R> Now I'm think, the best way is, to set my xml as the primary and running xml. Then learn about the other xml, how there OSD-Commands working, and integrate the features I need step by step in my own xml. If I got any new Problems, hope to find a little help here 19:21 #navit: < tryagain> you're welcome 19:21 #navit: < Maddin_R> oh... hello :-)) 19:21 #navit: < tryagain> glad to see you have solved your problems 19:21 #navit: < tryagain> :) 19:22 #navit: < Maddin_R> i'm glad too... it's a very long day to solve my problems.... startet at 6:00 in the morning... and this post is really the last.... for this day ;-) 19:23 #navit: < Maddin_R> good bye 19:23 -!- Maddin_R [~chatzilla@i5E86A486.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 19:23 #navit: < tryagain> good bye. 19:23 #navit: < tryagain> oops 19:30 #navit: < tryagain> xenos1984 yeah, now it complains only on sy, sl, gy, az, sg, il, ps which borders look ugly even at the first sight 19:32 #navit: < xenos1984> uh... actually for some of them i have no idea which countries those are and i didn't even know that countries with these codes exist... but i will figure out 19:32 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@178.216.76.16] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@178.216.76.16] has joined #navit 19:33 #navit: < tryagain> i can post border relation links here 19:33 #navit: < xenos1984> this would be great :) 19:33 #navit: < tryagain> Warning:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/184840 Broken country polygon 'sy' 19:33 #navit: < xenos1984> well, i know syria and israel 19:33 #navit: < tryagain> Warning:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/192777 Broken country polygon 'sl' 19:33 #navit: < tryagain> Warning:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/287083 Broken country polygon 'gy' 19:34 #navit: < tryagain> Warning:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/364110 Broken country polygon 'az' 19:34 #navit: < tryagain> Warning:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/536780 Broken country polygon 'sg' 19:34 #navit: < tryagain> Warning:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1473946 Broken country polygon 'il' 19:34 #navit: < tryagain> Warning:http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1803010 Broken country polygon 'ps' 19:34 #navit: < tryagain> last is Palestina, which has problems with israel... 19:35 #navit: < xenos1984> yes... and i think syria has similar problems... 19:35 #navit: < xenos1984> azerbaijan as well 19:36 #navit: < tryagain> yes 19:36 #navit: < xenos1984> i don't know about the remaining ones - sierra leone, guyana, singapore... i thought their borders would be undoubted, but i'm not 100% sure 19:39 #navit: < tryagain> well, sy border looks much better than before, it had a big gap few days ago 19:39 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... actually this gap might come back... well, better an edit war than a real one 19:40 #navit: < tryagain> agree 20:12 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@stw-105-225.ras.uni-rostock.de] has left #navit [] 20:44 -!- korrosa [~netbook@host-78-145-254-134.as13285.net] has joined #navit 20:44 #navit: < korrosa> Evening all. 20:46 #navit: < xenos1984> hi korrosa 21:01 -!- tryagain_ [~tryagain@178.216.76.15] has joined #navit 21:03 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@178.216.76.16] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:26 -!- tryagain_ [~tryagain@178.216.76.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:40 -!- korrosa [~netbook@host-78-145-254-134.as13285.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052066007.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 22:58 -!- woglinde [~henning@f052066007.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:41 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Wed Jan 09 00:00:39 2013