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09:11 #navit: < Navit> ***** Nagios *****
09:11 #navit: < Navit> Notification Type: PROBLEM
09:11 #navit: < Navit> Service: Work Filesystem
09:11 #navit: < Navit> Host: localhost
09:11 #navit: < Navit> Address: 127.0.0.1
09:11 #navit: < Navit> State: WARNING
09:11 #navit: < Navit> Date/Time: Wed Jan 30 10:17:15 CET 2013
09:11 #navit: < Navit> Additional Info:
09:11 #navit: < Navit> DISK WARNING - free space: /work 29842 MB (20% inode=95%):
09:31 #navit: < Navit> ***** Nagios *****
09:31 #navit: < Navit> Notification Type: RECOVERY
09:31 #navit: < Navit> Service: Work Filesystem
09:31 #navit: < Navit> Host: localhost
09:31 #navit: < Navit> Address: 127.0.0.1
09:31 #navit: < Navit> State: OK
09:31 #navit: < Navit> Date/Time: Wed Jan 30 10:37:15 CET 2013
09:31 #navit: < Navit> Additional Info:
09:31 #navit: < Navit> DISK OK - free space: /work 40030 MB (27% inode=95%):
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11:25 #navit: < Drego> Hi there!  I've got only one question: Are we able to use Navit for Android with a own osm server?
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11:42 #navit: <@cp15> Drego, what do you mean with own osm server?
11:42 #navit: < Tauso> Don't know exactly what you mean Drego, but navit uses offline maps. So you have to download (and process) the map data before you can use it.
11:43 #navit: < Tauso> But I think it should be no problem, to download it from your own osm (mirror). See http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMap on how to process the osm data to a .bin file for navit
11:52 #navit: < Drego> We've got Smartphones in our corporate network, which are not able to communicate to the internet. So we want to download the map data from our own osm mirror server.  In the application I can't find any setting to change the server.
11:53 #navit: <@cp15> Aaah... Now I understand... You mean the integrated map downloader?
11:53 #navit: < Drego> Exactly
11:54 #navit: <@cp15> Well, the hostname is hardcoded, so you would have to compile navit by your own to change it
11:54 #navit: < Drego> Another way could be to transfer map files to the device via a file manager
11:54 #navit: <@cp15> Yes, that is possible, just copy something named *.bin into the navit folder on the sdcard
11:55 #navit: < Drego> That could be a good solution
11:55 #navit: < Drego> thank you for the quick and helpful response
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12:12 #navit: < woglinde> jo
12:12 #navit: < woglinde> hm democar is broken too
12:12 #navit: < woglinde> or osd elements
12:12 #navit: < woglinde> I wonder why compass is working
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13:07 #navit: < Tauso> on my android phone the newest svns doesnt even start properly. I've tested svn 5351,5357 and the newest 5358.
13:08 #navit: <@cp15> Tauso, which one was the last which worked?
13:08 #navit: < woglinde> hi cp15
13:08 #navit: <@cp15> Hi woglinde
13:09 #navit: < woglinde> cp15 I am still searching around where turn_next and navigation.item[1].length[named] get the updates
13:09 #navit: < woglinde> compass is working fine
13:10 #navit: < woglinde> but it calculates the destination length itself
13:10 #navit: < Tauso> 5337 is working.
13:10 #navit: < Tauso> iv never tested the 534x Versions.
13:10 #navit: <@cp15> They get triggered when the navit object gets a position update
13:11 #navit: < woglinde> yes the callback
13:11 #navit: <@cp15> Tauso, can you test (5351+5337)/2 ?
13:11 #navit: < woglinde> cp15 yes callback is called but it has no updates for this attritbutes
13:12 #navit: < woglinde> cp15 you can test it yourself with democar
13:12 #navit: < Tauso> cp15, i don't know exactly what you mean. I'm only a user and download the precompiled apks from here: http://download.navit-project.org/navit/android/svn/
13:14 #navit: <@cp15> Can you test the version about the middle between 5351 and 5337?
13:14 #navit: < Tauso> is the apk somewhere available?
13:15 #navit: <@cp15> Aah... Now I know your problem
13:15 #navit: <@cp15> Let me check whether it is in the backup
13:15 #navit: < Tauso> on the project page are only versions 5351 and higher
13:19 #navit: <@cp15> Ok, I have restored 5342, 5343 and 5348
13:19 #navit: <@cp15> If you can tell me what was the last version which worked finding the error would be much easier
13:23 #navit: < Tauso> ok, i'll try them
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13:43 #navit: < woglinde> hm intressting inside eclipse and gdb navot sigsev when using the demo car at my setup
13:52 #navit: < Tauso> strange, I thought 5348 has worked, but after trying the other ones,  none of this versions (5342,5343,5348) is working on my phone.
13:53 #navit: < woglinde> do you see something in logcat?
13:57 #navit: < Tauso> i dont have the adb-sdk installed - sorry.
13:58 #navit: < woglinde> and not rooted?
13:58 #navit: < woglinde> or no shell
13:58 #navit: < woglinde> aehm terminal programm
13:58 #navit: < Tauso> wait, is it possible to log on terminal window inside the phone?
13:58 #navit: < woglinde> its not fun
13:59 #navit: < woglinde> but possible
13:59 #navit: < Tauso> ok, i have to reinstall the non working version
14:00 #navit: < woglinde> ah now I have an idea regarding the osd problems
14:01 #navit: < woglinde> its only updated when the route is changing
14:01 #navit: < woglinde> arrrrrgggsssss
14:03 #navit: < woglinde> hm so we need to rewrite the osd elements
14:03 #navit: < woglinde> hm
14:03 #navit: < woglinde> hm hm
14:09 #navit: < Tauso> I hope this is the relevant logcat output http://pastebin.com/JmXTSDgL
14:09 #navit: < Navit> ***** Nagios *****
14:09 #navit: < Navit> Notification Type: PROBLEM
14:10 #navit: < Navit> Service: Scratch Filesystem
14:10 #navit: < Navit> Host: localhost
14:10 #navit: < Navit> Address: 127.0.0.1
14:10 #navit: < Navit> State: WARNING
14:10 #navit: < Navit> Date/Time: Wed Jan 30 15:15:25 CET 2013
14:10 #navit: < Navit> Additional Info:
14:10 #navit: < Navit> DISK WARNING - free space: /scratch 113433 MB (19% inode=99%):
14:11 #navit: < woglinde> tauso yes
14:11 #navit: < woglinde> unfornatly we do not see why its dying
14:19 #navit: < Navit> ***** Nagios *****
14:19 #navit: < Navit> Notification Type: RECOVERY
14:19 #navit: < Navit> Service: Scratch Filesystem
14:19 #navit: < Navit> Host: localhost
14:20 #navit: < Navit> Address: 127.0.0.1
14:20 #navit: < Navit> State: OK
14:20 #navit: < Navit> Date/Time: Wed Jan 30 15:25:25 CET 2013
14:20 #navit: < Navit> Additional Info:
14:20 #navit: < Navit> DISK OK - free space: /scratch 132716 MB (23% inode=99%):
14:22 #navit: < Tauso> I've extracted one more crash from logcat, but it lokks like the olde one http://pastebin.com/d9V9uH5v
14:23 #navit: < woglinde> tauso I will try it at home with my cellphone
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16:04 #navit: < tryagain> Tauso do you have some navit.xml inside your /sdcard/navit/ when you expirence your crashes ?
16:14 #navit: < Tauso> no, i've disabled my usual navit.xml and renamed it to navit.yml. svn version 5337 does start with the original navit.xml
16:17 #navit: < tryagain> hm... are you sure you have no navit.xml in /sdcard/ folder itself too?
16:23 #navit: < Tauso> yes i'm sure. I do have some navitxxx.xml files in that folder, does it use these?
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16:42 #navit: < Tauso> I did some tests and had svn versions 5342 and 5343 working - once! I could start them one time and after closing it, another start wasn't possible. It shows the navit icon in the upper bar (Navit is running), but it doesn't open it. After rebooting the phone i could open it again - very strange. Could it be a memory problem?
16:43 #navit: < ZeroOne01> I have the same problem on my smartphone - with the version from the play store
16:44 #navit: < ZeroOne01> the same version works fine on my tablet
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17:12 #navit: < TauSo> ok, got the new svn version 5358 working on my phone, but i don't know why. sometimes it doesn't start sometimes it does. no problem on my nexus 10 tablet. maybe really a memory problem, as my phone has only 512MB
17:20 #navit: <@cp15> "Only" 512MB? Navit was also running on the g1 with 128MB (actually just 96 MB)
17:21 #navit: < woglinde> it runs on my gt540 with 256 mb ram
17:58 #navit: < TauSo> ok, than it has to be some other problem related to my phone.
18:27 #navit: <@cp15> TauSo, on some android versions the exit doesn't really work and there is still a navit process running after exit
18:27 #navit: <@cp15> Do you have adb installed? Do you have root access?
18:34 #navit: < TauSo> i have root access, but no adb installed.
18:37 #navit: <@cp15> Installing the sdk isn't that difficult
18:39 #navit: < TauSo> ok, i'm downloading the adt-bundle-linux already.
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18:47 #navit: < TauSo> so, adb is running
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20:35 #navit: <@cp15> Ok, please check when you stop navit that it is no longer running (run ps via adb and look for org.navitproject....)
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21:03 #navit: < TauSo> org.navitproject.navit keeps running after stoping navit (from internal gui)
21:05 #navit: <@cp15> Even after a longer time?
21:06 #navit: < TauSo> u0_a92    13819 1208  196764 43700 ffffffff 40037a70 S org.navitproject.navit
21:06 #navit: < TauSo> what does the "S" mean is it the process state?
21:08 #navit: < TauSo> seems sometimes the process gets closed
21:10 #navit: <@cp15> Sleeping.... It isn't consuming cpu time when ps was run
21:11 #navit: <@cp15> Ok, I have this problem also on some devices (that navit doesn't exit, I never had that it can't be started). I try to fix this
21:13 #navit: < TauSo> for me it does exit now. no process is shown after quitting now. but when i try to start it goes blank for a second and back to android menu. but the navit icon remains in the task bar.
21:14 #navit: <@cp15> Ok, since you have installed adb now, please do the following:
21:14 #navit: < TauSo> then i try to start it a couple of times and eventuelly it starts normal
21:14 #navit: <@cp15> Wait until no navit process is existing anymore
21:14 #navit: <@cp15> run adb logcat >logcat.txt
21:14 #navit: <@cp15> Start navit
21:15 #navit: <@cp15> If it crashes send me logcat.txt
21:15 #navit: <@cp15> If not, try again
21:15 #navit: <@cp15> Be aware that logcat.txt might contain sensitive information
21:15 #navit: < TauSo> yes, i try to cut that out
21:22 #navit: < TauSo> http://pastebin.com/D3pQPZcb
21:24 #navit: <@cp15> Doesn't go very far
21:26 #navit: < TauSo> yeah it seams dying instantly after resolving resolution
21:26 #navit: < TauSo> would it be helpful, if i log a succesful start on this device?
21:35 #navit: <@cp15> I will add some debug code so we can try this further tomorrow
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21:39 #navit: < TauSo> ok, but i hope it isn't only a strange configuration of my phone and you put a lot of work on this.
21:40 #navit: <@cp15> You could try something out
21:40 #navit: <@cp15> adb shell
21:40 #navit: <@cp15> cd /data/data/org.navitproject.navit/home
21:40 #navit: <@cp15> cat navit.xml >/sdcard/navit/navit.xml
21:40 #navit: <@cp15> exit
21:40 #navit: <@cp15> adb pull /sdcard/navit/navit.xml
21:41 #navit: <@cp15> edit navit.xml and change in <debug name="global" level="0"> the level to "9"
21:42 #navit: <@cp15> adb push navit.xml /sdcard/navit/navit.xml
21:42 #navit: <@cp15> Start navit again
21:42 #navit: < TauSo> i already run my own navit.xml again
21:43 #navit: <@cp15> Ah... Have you verified that the effect also happens with the original navit.xml?
21:43 #navit: <@cp15> If yes you can try to make the modification to your own navit.xml
21:43 #navit: < TauSo> yes its the same. i've deactivated
21:43 #navit: < TauSo> yes i will set debug to 9
21:48 #navit: < TauSo> logcat output is the same unfortunatly. i think the process is dying even before navit.xml is loaded
21:49 #navit: <@cp15> Ok, I will add some temporary debug and you could please test the version tomorrow so I can remove it again
21:50 #navit: < TauSo> as I said, navit starts eventually, when i try it 3 or four times - so do not pu too much time in this
21:54 #navit: < Navit> martin-s * r5359 /trunk/navit/navit/start_real.c: Add:Core:Temporary debug code http://navit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/navit?view=revision&revision=5359
21:55 #navit: <@cp15> Well, I would like to know why :-)
21:55 #navit: <@cp15> Navit, compile
21:55 #navit: < Navit> Starting compiler
21:56 #navit: <@cp15> About 30 minutes :-)
21:56 #navit: < TauSo> is it compiling only for android or all platforms?
21:58 #navit: <@cp15> All
21:59 #navit: <@cp15> But android is pretty close to the beginning
22:01 #navit: < ZeroOne01> for testing purpose i run navit on a Asus EEEPc 701 4G - start compiling -> time for toilet, like a TV-break
22:03 #navit: <@cp15> Hehe, I have also one... But nowadays it is just lying in a box
22:05 #navit: < woglinde> args looks like I brick my buffalo router
22:05 #navit: < ZeroOne01> It's perfect for me, same resolution like the carpc - and with the bluetooth stick and bluetooth gps receiver i can use navit with my interface in ever other car
22:05 #navit: < woglinde> tftp boot still works but not into a shell
22:09 #navit: <@cp15> Well, then there is still hope: Reflash the original firmware
22:16 #navit: < woglinde> cp15 hope comes with serial console
22:16 #navit: < woglinde> so I can see whats going wrong
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22:47 #navit: < Navit> Compilation successful
22:49 #navit: < woglinde> thanks buildbot
22:58 #navit: <@cp15> Gn8
23:00 #navit: < woglinde> gn cp15
23:04 #navit: < TauSo> bye
23:08 #navit: < ZeroOne01> gn8
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23:11 #navit: < TauSo> I've tested the debug version, but the output isn't that much more :-(  http://pastebin.com/AiG6Qcp9
23:12 #navit: < TauSo> this was with the original navit.xml (i renamed the whole /sdcard/navit folder)
23:24 #navit: < woglinde> what is your android version?
23:32 #navit: < TauSo> 4.1.2
23:33 #navit: < TauSo> its cyanogen mod 10 for motorola milestone 2
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