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09:26 #navit: < xenos1984> good morning! is there a problem with the navit server? seems to be unreachable... i tried it from two computers at different locations, both give me a "network unreachable" when i try to ping it (also tried ssh and http) - cp15 ?
09:35 #navit: <@cp15> Yes, it crashed... I am currently re-starting it
09:40 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, i see - i hope it was not my fault when i was trying to refresh the tomtom build yesterday ;)
09:41 #navit: <@cp15> Who knows ;-)
09:42 #navit: < xenos1984> i guess we will see it when i try it again ;) but now i learned a bit more about cmake, so at least that should work fine :)
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09:45 #navit: < xenos1984> hi woglinde
09:48 #navit: <@cp15> Ok, Navit server should be back
09:50 #navit: < xenos1984> works!
09:51 #navit: < xenos1984> http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=20359 - somebody wants to display two different positions from two GPS sources at the same time - is that possible, or can it be easily implemented?
10:02 #navit: <@cp15> Actually it  is already possible. You can have more than one vehicle, both will be displayed
10:03 #navit: <@cp15> But you can have only one active (to which the map will follow and the route is calculated)
10:03 #navit: <@cp15> However you can change which one is active anytime
10:03 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, this sounds good
10:04 #navit: < woglinde> hi xenos hi cp15
10:05 #navit: < woglinde> xenos the advance way is to write a map with the position of the other source
10:05 #navit: < woglinde> as we do in our prject
10:09 #navit: < xenos1984> woglinde: i don't quite get the idea... what type of map do you mean?
10:15 #navit: < woglinde> xenos1984 like pois
10:15 #navit: < woglinde> but dynamicly in memory
10:15 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, i see
10:15 #navit: < woglinde> we write it all 30s or so
10:16 #navit: < woglinde> and navit has no gpsd reconnect feature right now
10:16 #navit: < woglinde> so if you use a remote gpsd
10:16 #navit: < woglinde> via network
10:16 #navit: < woglinde> and the connection hangs or shutsdown
10:16 #navit: < woglinde> it will not reconnect
10:17 #navit: < woglinde> instead cpu will go to 100%
10:20 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... sounds like a seriously missing feature
10:21 #navit: < woglinde> hm yes but not so easily to implement
10:21 #navit: < woglinde> or dont know
10:21 #navit: < woglinde> I looked once at the code
10:21 #navit: < woglinde> but forgot most of it
10:23 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i see...
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15:47 #navit: < Usul1> hi all
15:53 #navit: < Usul1> I played a bit around and created some further POI dialog mashups
15:53 #navit: < Usul1> not that easy to get all things embedded ;)
16:01 #navit: < woglinde> hm h
16:01 #navit: < woglinde> gpsd-car has retry
16:01 #navit: < woglinde> but why does it not ork and goes 100%
16:01 #navit: < woglinde> ah right
16:02 #navit: < woglinde> only at beginning
16:02 #navit: < woglinde> not when gpsd is running
16:02 #navit: < Usul1> hi woglinde
16:02 #navit: < Usul1> your from OSM, too right?
16:04 #navit: < woglinde> ?
16:04 #navit: < woglinde> I am from many projects
16:06 #navit: < Usul1> oh ok ;) thought I read you nick in OSM forums today
16:07 #navit: < Usul1> so what is your GPSD troubles and why don't u use the gps port directly?
16:07 #navit: < woglinde> ?????????????????????????????ßß
16:08 #navit: < woglinde> navit has problems when the gpsd dies
16:08 #navit: < Usul1> ? (17:02:00) woglinde: but why does it not ork and goes 100% ?
16:08 #navit: < woglinde> there is no retry to connect and navit goes 100% cpu
16:09 #navit: < Usul1> ok I see
16:10 #navit: < Usul1> I guess it works fine, if navit goes directly to the gps port?
16:11 #navit: < woglinde> ?????????????????????????????????????????????ßß
16:11 #navit: < woglinde> please read the code
16:12 #navit: < woglinde> you are making no sense
16:13 #navit: < Usul1> you say navit hangs, when you shutdown gpsd. Now I asked if there is the same behaviour, if your Navit makes use of your GPS directly, without the GPSD proxy?
16:13 #navit: < Usul1> This would allow us to reproduce the failure
16:14 #navit: < woglinde> what you are talking about?
16:14 #navit: < woglinde> navit has car gpsd modul
16:14 #navit: < Usul1> Plz have a look at http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuration#Vehicle_Options
16:15 #navit: < woglinde> which tries to reconnect if you have not started gpsd
16:15 #navit: < woglinde> but failueres when your gpsd or the network connection dies between
16:15 #navit: < Usul1> there are various options to link navit with a GPS. GPSD is one solution, another is direct access to the NMEA stream by Navit
16:15 #navit: < woglinde> usul1 I have used navit longer than you and contributed code
16:16 #navit: < Usul1> ? sorry, whats the problem?
16:16 #navit: < Usul1> I just tried to help
16:16 #navit: < woglinde> sorry you do not understand it
16:16 #navit: < woglinde> so its useless to explain it to you a 3rd time
16:16 #navit: < Usul1> np, just add a bug report
16:17 #navit: < woglinde> I will try to fix it and commit
16:17 #navit: < woglinde> it
16:17 #navit: < Usul1> thx
16:18 #navit: < Usul1> btw does the dev team currently use some kind of testing (framework, ...) ?
16:20 #navit: < woglinde> no
16:27 #navit: < Usul1> so there is no testing before a stable release?
16:27 #navit: < woglinde> is your master thesis about software engeneering?
16:28 #navit: < Usul1> no, its about cloud rendering for OSM map tiles
16:28 #navit: < Usul1> why?
16:35 #navit: < Usul1> I didn't found you over at OSM. Sorry, than this was my mistake
16:53 #navit: < Usul1> does the gps osd widget doesn't show the number of satelites anymore?
16:58 #navit: < woglinde> it should
17:00 #navit: < Usul1> hmm strange :/
17:07 #navit: < Usul1> we should cleanup the default navit.xml, a lot of osd items are just outdated :(
17:48 #navit: < Usul1> enough navit for today, cya
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