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01:11 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5532.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-5532.failed
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08:17 #navit: < Usul1> good morning :)
08:18 #navit: < Usul1> I'm still thinking about how we might improve our dev workflow: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User:Usul/DevelopmentNG
08:18 #navit: < Usul1> Does anybody of you has experience with specific bug tracker or code review platforms?
08:20 #navit: < Usul1> And knows anybody, who in our community has an openmoko?
09:03 #navit: <@cp15> I have one
09:05 #navit: < Usul1> So who is currently maintaining the builds for SHR, QTmoko, ...?
09:06 #navit: < Usul1> I will try to get one at ebay, hopefully I can use it later on for testing navit releases
09:06 #navit: < Usul1> guess will take some time to get a good offer
09:07 #navit: < Usul1> cp15 can you tell us something about your timeschedule? You seem to be very busy?
09:09 #navit: < ventYl> i have agentda vr3
09:10 #navit: < ventYl> probably the first linux handheld ever existing
09:10 #navit: < ventYl> *agenda
09:11 #navit:  * Usul1 asks google about that one :)
09:12 #navit: < Usul1> oh, I guess you can't compile navit for it :( #66MHz
09:13 #navit: < Usul1> but it reminds me on my palm pre, that works weeks with one single charging
09:23 #navit: < Usul1> cp15: Can you give me a raw impression, when we might consider changing the services?
09:44 #navit: < ventYl> Usul1: i also had one palm m125. 4 to 6 weeks of use on single 1.5V carbon cell
09:45 #navit: < Usul1> I still have my c123, but I only use it as backup key store ;)
09:53 #navit: < xenos1984> hi Usul1 ;)
09:53 #navit: < Usul1> greetings xenos1984 :D
09:53 #navit: < xenos1984> hopefully my nexus 7 will arrive soon :)
09:54 #navit:  * Usul1 has fingers crossed
09:54 #navit: < xenos1984> and i hope that conrad doesn't mess up my order and the destination address... they already messed up the client number -.-
09:54 #navit:  * Usul1 is walking to the mensa *yummy*
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09:54 #navit: < xenos1984> head isu, as one would say in estonia ;)
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13:08 #navit: < Usul1> <- is back
13:16 #navit: < Usul1> xenos1984: you wrote about a new phone?
13:30 #navit: < xenos1984> Usul1: yes, i ordered a nexus 7 (wifi version)
13:31 #navit: < Usul1> an android phone, right?
13:31 #navit: < xenos1984> yes
13:31 #navit: < xenos1984> but one can replace the android by ubuntu touch
13:31 #navit: < xenos1984> that's why i chose this model
13:38 #navit: < Usul1> oh ok
13:38 #navit: < Usul1> not sure what this FFOS, Ubuntu touch, ... will result in ...
13:40 #navit:  * Usul1 is working on the supersecret new forums :)
13:43 #navit: < xenos1984> well, i don't know either, but since i also use ubuntu on my laptop, i'd like to try it ;) and i'm not a fan of android...
13:44 #navit: < Usul1> no I don't like the Android understanding of "open", too
13:44 #navit: < Usul1> But IMHO Ubuntu/Colonical is taking this "wrong" way, too :(
13:45 #navit: < Usul1> <- will switch from Ubuntu ASAP
13:45 #navit: < xenos1984> i hope that ubuntu will open the way for other linux distros to enter the phone / tablet market
13:46 #navit: < ventYl> i hope that i'll be able to create reserve of dumbphones large enough to stay smartphone free for several years
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13:47 #navit: < xenos1984> actually i don't even have a mobile phone and don't want one ;) that's why is ordered only the wifi version of the nexus 7 - no gsm connection
13:48 #navit: < xenos1984> all i need is a compact mobile computer
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13:50 #navit: < ventYl> i have dumbphone
13:50 #navit: < ventYl> works better than android smartphone
13:50 #navit: < ventYl> just doesn't run navit
13:53 #navit: < xenos1984> running navit is exactly what i plan to do and why i ordered a device like that ;) (aside from using it as an ebook reader and for mobile wifi)
13:53 #navit: < xenos1984> i used a tomtom running navit before that
13:55 #navit: < Usul1> hi pini :)
13:58 #navit: < Usul1> Will hopefully get the pandora port compiling on my own in 2 months or so
13:58 #navit: < Usul1> then I will try to tweak the config that it will run out of the box
13:59 #navit: < Usul1> Does anybody know, if it would be hard to implement software antialiasing?
13:59 #navit: < Usul1> or to use opengl es for that?
14:06 #navit: < Usul1> FYI we have a new user, who is obviously trying to get navit run on the raspberry pi within his car :) http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User_talk:C_holtermann
14:07 #navit: < woglinde> usul1 and where is the problem?
14:07 #navit: < woglinde> apt-get install navit
14:08 #navit: < Usul1> I think it's more that he is not that satisfied (usability, config, ...) but let's see what he will write about his current experiences :)
14:10 #navit: < Usul1> woglinde: Do you have an raspberry, too?
14:10 #navit: < woglinde> nope
14:10 #navit: < woglinde> I do not know what todo with settop box chipset
14:12 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i think i talked to him recently here in the channel - either that or there is another raspberry pi user ;)
14:13 #navit: < Usul1> I think he joined in a few days ago
14:14 #navit: < xenos1984> by the way, i continued working on the icons - converting them to using css for coloring, so that one can use simple colors for groups of icons, such as tourism, transport etc.
14:14 #navit: < xenos1984> i'll try to integrate this into the navit toolchain soon / use the svg-to-png conversion navit uses
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14:15 #navit: < angelus88> hello everyone
14:15 #navit: < xenos1984> navit seems to be using either rsvg-convert or ksvg - do they support external css style sheets for coloring?
14:16 #navit: < xenos1984> hello angelus88
14:16 #navit: < angelus88> can I ask a simple question about csv?
14:16 #navit: < xenos1984> sure, just go ahead
14:16 #navit: < angelus88> thanks
14:17 #navit: < angelus88> I read in the website that if i want to use csv files for custom POIs I need to compile Navit with the option --enable-map-csv
14:17 #navit: < angelus88> is this right?
14:17 #navit: < Usul1> hi angelus88 :)
14:18 #navit: < angelus88> hi Usul1 :)
14:18 #navit: < Usul1> did you already tried the offical SVN build for your platform? I expect that it's enabled by default? oO
14:18 #navit:  * Usul1 expects "some" wikipages to be still outdated
14:18 #navit: < angelus88> uhm actually not yet...
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14:18 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i integrated some custom POIs recently and didn's need to recompile
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14:19 #navit: < Usul1> xenos1984: on ubuntu or TomTom?
14:19 #navit: < xenos1984> Usul1: ubuntu
14:19 #navit: < Angelus88> sorry, I've been kicked out...
14:19 #navit: < Angelus88> I was saying...
14:19 #navit: < Angelus88> I successfully installed navit on my raspberry pi
14:20 #navit: < Angelus88> just using apt-get install navit
14:20 #navit: < woglinde> as I said
14:20 #navit: < woglinde> haha
14:20 #navit: < Usul1> ;)
14:20 #navit: < Angelus88> i didn't try to use a csv file yet
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14:21 #navit: < Usul1> (a few moments ago, we talked about someone who uses raspi as car pc)
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14:21 #navit: < Angelus88> sorry guys
14:21 #navit: < Angelus88> here I am again -.-
14:22 #navit: < Angelus88> I keep getting kicked out, don't know why...
14:22 #navit: < Angelus88> so... what were you saying?
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14:22 #navit: < xenos1984> Angelus88: if you use the textfile format shown here, you don't need the csv option - this works out of the box: https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Custom_POIs
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14:23 #navit: < Angelus88> yeah, I know about the txt file but...
14:23 #navit: < Angelus88> I found a website where to find lots of updated POIs but they're all in csv format
14:24 #navit: < Usul1> BTW what kind of POIs?
14:24 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, i see - well, then i would first try whether it works with a downloaded version of navit
14:24 #navit: < Angelus88> different kind... Restaurants, Banks, Fast-Foods, Autovelox :)
14:24 #navit: < xenos1984> and if not, try to recompile
14:25 #navit: < Usul1>  But isn't OSM with a good coverage at your area?
14:25 #navit: < Angelus88> ok but If it doesn't work and I need to compile it, do I just need to use "./configure --enable-map-csv ?
14:25 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... basically, yes
14:25 #navit: < Angelus88> I don't know Usul1, I didn't try yet...
14:26 #navit: < xenos1984> some platform require more options, but let's keep it basic first
14:26 #navit: < Angelus88> I'm just getting information
14:26 #navit: < Usul1> IMHO it would be wise to use the official osm navit binfiles are updated daily, so it's worth a try
14:27 #navit: < Usul1> but maybe your kind of information is not in the general interest of the OSM community (as userchoice of restaurants, geocaches, ....)
14:27 #navit: < Angelus88> yes, in fact the repository for the Raspberry Pi seems a bit outdated for Navit
14:27 #navit: < Usul1> What OS you run on your rasp?
14:27 #navit: < Angelus88> yeah, maybe they are really "custom" POIs+
14:27 #navit: < Angelus88> raspbian
14:27 #navit: < Angelus88> sort of debian
14:29 #navit: < Usul1> ah ok, the just build the debian packages for ARM
14:29 #navit: < Usul1> http://astrobeano.blogspot.de/2012/10/navit-gps-on-raspberry-pi.html <- good info how to compile navit on rasp?
14:29 #navit: < Angelus88> yes, that's it
14:30 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm yes, I found that website days ago but I forgot about it...
14:30 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks
14:30 #navit: < Angelus88> I'll try and I'll let you know
14:30 #navit: < Usul1> well pini is the package maintainer for debian, we will see how we can improve the way of releasing so users (and rasp included)
14:30 #navit: < Angelus88> perfect, thanks
14:31 #navit: < Angelus88> I think this is a really good project
14:31 #navit: < Usul1> good luck! If you like, we can start an wiki page to document rasp dev
14:31 #navit: < Angelus88> or maybe the one for Raspberry
14:31 #navit: < Angelus88> oh yes it would be great to make a page in the wiki for the rasp :)
14:32 #navit: < Angelus88> I had some problems using GPSd to let my gps device work days ago
14:32 #navit: < Angelus88> and I solved just using the file of the device instead
14:32 #navit: < Usul1> this is how it runs at my laptop, too
14:33 #navit: < Angelus88> so I'm not the only one with that problem...
14:33 #navit: < Angelus88> don't know why
14:33 #navit: < Angelus88> I couldn't run GPSd
14:34 #navit: < Angelus88> now navit takes the GPS location reading from /dev/rfcomm0
14:34 #navit: < Angelus88> ('cause I have a BT gps)
14:35 #navit: < Usul1> so a problem of gpsd? It just didn't started?
14:35 #navit: < Angelus88> yes... I don't remember the error now...
14:35 #navit: < Angelus88> but something with the IPv4 socket...
14:36 #navit: < Usul1> hmm maybe sudo missed?
14:36 #navit: < Angelus88> tried already
14:36 #navit: < Usul1> hmm strange, but currently you seem one step further :)
14:38 #navit: < Angelus88> yes, it works reading from the file of the device, so no problem :)
14:38 #navit: < Usul1> but why using navit at a rasp?
14:40 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm... what do you mean?
14:40 #navit: < Angelus88> is there an alternative?
14:40 #navit: < Usul1> I just wonder because I don't expect the rasp to be that mobile (no display, ...) ;)
14:41 #navit: < Angelus88> well, actually I have a display :) I have 2 raspberry
14:41 #navit: < Angelus88> one at home
14:41 #navit: < Angelus88> w/out display
14:41 #navit: < Angelus88> one in my car :)
14:41 #navit: < Angelus88> with a little display of 4.3"
14:41 #navit: < Usul1> are you this user at the wiki? http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User_talk:C_holtermann
14:42 #navit: < Angelus88> nope
14:42 #navit: < Usul1> oh, seems like we will get a navit car pc division :D
14:43 #navit: < Angelus88> hahah probably
14:43 #navit: < Angelus88> it works well even with the raspberry
14:43 #navit: < Usul1> if you like, please give us some feedback, what might be improved for this specific usecase for navit
14:44 #navit: < Usul1> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User:Usul/NavitRefactoring#roadmap
14:46 #navit: < woglinde> Usul1 ???????? navit is the reference navigation for genivi
14:46 #navit: < Angelus88> ok sure! i'll take a look :)
14:46 #navit: < Usul1> Sorry, what is genivi?
14:46 #navit: < woglinde> ask brother google
14:47 #navit: < Usul1> oh ok
14:47 #navit: < Usul1> and how does Navit belongs to the alliance?
14:47 #navit: < Angelus88> cool, didn't know about it
14:48 #navit: < Angelus88> maybe navit is the only "good working" navigator for linux
14:50 #navit: < Usul1> I don't deny that point. But currently it's not that easy to have a good UX just by installing and using it
14:51 #navit: < Usul1> maybe it's just because the community never paid that much attention on how to deploy easy to use packages and to get a intuitive UI
14:52 #navit: < Angelus88> anyway, I would give a suggestion for the configuration of navit...
14:52 #navit: < Usul1> please tell us :)
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14:52 #navit: < Angelus88> maybe It would bu much easier to have some sort of GUI or a Wizard to edit the xml of the configuration...
14:52 #navit: < Angelus88> insted of editing it manually
14:52 #navit: < Usul1> yes indeed, editing the huge file is really pain :/
14:53 #navit: < Angelus88> the comments inside the xml are obviously useful but...
14:53 #navit: < Angelus88> the file is tooooo long haha
14:53 #navit: < Usul1> in a first step we want to split it up to multiple files that can be easily replaced by the package manager
14:54 #navit: < Angelus88> yes, that would be better
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14:54 #navit: < Usul1> And maybe in a second step we can embedd a UI to setup the most options and switch the configs for subparts
14:54 #navit: < Angelus88> and then (because of the fact it's an xml), It should be easy to make a wizard or gui to edit it
14:54 #navit: < Angelus88> yes
14:55 #navit: < Angelus88> exactly
14:55 #navit: < Usul1> But to be honest, you need to be patient, this will still takes months
14:55 #navit: < Angelus88> 'cause, you know... lot's of people when they see that file they prefer to change idea...
14:55 #navit: < Usul1> ;)
14:56 #navit: < Usul1> currently we try to introduce better dev processes and maybe then we can work better in parallel
14:56 #navit: < Angelus88> I can help if you want... I know php... we can create a PHP page to generate a custom xml
14:56 #navit: < Usul1> thank you :)
14:56 #navit: < Angelus88> I'll make a test page if you want
14:56 #navit: < Usul1> but if I understand cp15 (maintainer) right, he will try to keep most stuff within the tool itself
14:57 #navit: < Angelus88> yes but maybe in the meantime...
14:57 #navit: < Usul1> Personally I think that we need to get to a point, where the default navit will fit to the platform you install navit
14:58 #navit: < Usul1> Hmm we have this UI generator somewhere that wrote somebody
14:58 #navit: < Angelus88> I gotta go now, so sorry
14:58 #navit: < Angelus88> we'll catch up later :)
14:59 #navit: < Usul1> np cya!
14:59 #navit: < Angelus88> bye!
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15:01 #navit: < Usul1> woglinde: Do you have any further informations about Navit+Genivi?
15:09 #navit: < woglinde> usul1 no ask cp15
15:10 #navit: < woglinde> no php please
15:14 #navit: < Usul1> I think it was kind from him to offer help, but maybe php isn't that a good idea indeed
15:16 #navit: < Usul1> woglinde: what is the part of navit that you are working on?
15:17 #navit: < woglinde> usul1 at the moment none
15:17 #navit: < Usul1> where did you contributed?
15:18 #navit: < woglinde> hm just check svn log
15:18 #navit: < woglinde> build system and clean ups
15:18 #navit: < Usul1> ah ok
15:18 #navit: < Usul1> the cmake or autogen stuff?
15:18 #navit: < woglinde> hm autotools
15:18 #navit: < Usul1> sry yes
15:32 #navit: < xenos1984> i think the PHP idea was just to have a web generator for navit.xml files, not as a part of the build process
15:32 #navit: < xenos1984> or the source tree
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17:12 #navit: < Usul1> cya
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18:00 #navit: < xenos1984> i'm just registering a talk about navit at the SotM Baltics 2013 - http://sotm-baltics.org/cfp.html
18:01 #navit: < xenos1984> i think i should introduce the project, talk about its goals, show some application, ask for suggestions... promote it a bit
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18:03 #navit: < Angelus88> hi everyone
18:17 #navit: < Angelus88> hey, what time is it where you are?
18:21 #navit: < xenos1984> here it's 21:20
18:23 #navit: < ventYl> 20:26
18:31 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks, just curious
18:32 #navit: < Angelus88> anybody using raspberry pi?
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18:41 #navit: < xenos1984> unfortunately not (yet) - maybe i'll get myself a pi someday :)
18:48 #navit: < Angelus88> good :)
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18:55 #navit: < Angelus88> hey Usul1
18:55 #navit: < Angelus88> welcome back
18:56 #navit: < Usul1> thanks :)
18:57 #navit:  * Usul1 was running
18:59 #navit: < Angelus88> Usul1, I tried to compile Navit from the source
19:00 #navit: < Angelus88> but I had a lot of problem
19:00 #navit: < Angelus88> first thing, it seemed like some file were missing
19:01 #navit: < Angelus88> I had to manually copy the liberation fonts inside the "fonts" folder of navit
19:01 #navit: < Angelus88> then I tried "make check" and everything seemed alright
19:01 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i had a similar problem on tomtom linux
19:01 #navit: < Angelus88> I tried make and no problem till there
19:02 #navit: < Angelus88> no problem with make install too
19:02 #navit:  * Usul1 puts the hairdresser away
19:03 #navit: < Angelus88> but at last, Navit didn't run
19:03 #navit: < Angelus88> don't know why...
19:03 #navit: < Usul1> so make finished successfully?
19:03 #navit: < xenos1984> can you provide a navit log file?
19:03 #navit: < Angelus88> it was saying something like "no graphics subsystem"
19:04 #navit: < Usul1> Sounds like a bad configuration issue?
19:04 #navit: < Angelus88> I think so...
19:04 #navit: < Angelus88> during the command "./configure" I noticed something wrong with the graphic driver or wathever...
19:05 #navit: < Angelus88> it said no opengl support and a list of no about the graphic
19:05 #navit: < xenos1984> ah... then you need a graphics dev library
19:06 #navit: < xenos1984> something like gtk-dev or sdl-dev or whatever is available for the rpi
19:06 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm what if I want to use OpenGL?
19:06 #navit: < Angelus88> is it possible?
19:06 #navit: < Angelus88> I know the raspberry pi is not so "famous"...
19:07 #navit: < xenos1984> well, if there is an opengl-dev package or similar for the rpi, it should be
19:07 #navit: < Angelus88> I made a backup of my entire sd so no problem if I mess something up :)
19:10 #navit: < Usul1> oh, somebody catched up my story about 3D and OSM :) http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/19868/mit-supertuxkart-durch-buechelberg.html
19:11 #navit: < Angelus88> deutch... I'm Italian, can't understand a thing xD
19:12 #navit: < Usul1> Sorry, here in ENG the tutorial that is all about http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Supertuxkart
19:18 #navit: < Usul1> FYI @all we currently setup a forum to allow async communication, esp. support: https://forum.navit-project.org
19:19 #navit: < Usul1> Currently myself is the only admin. If get the privileges, I can share this status with everyone else
19:22 #navit: < xenos1984> Usul1: i thought about possible support subforums and i came up with: Maps, Layouts, Basic Functions (POI / Address Search & Routing), Customization (OSD, Menu...)
19:23 #navit: < xenos1984> Setup
19:23 #navit: < xenos1984> and "Other"
19:23 #navit: < Usul1> I currently setup this: https://forum.navit-project.org/viewforum.php?f=3
19:23 #navit: < Usul1> so support would be for everything else. Let's see
19:23 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, great :)
19:23 #navit: < xenos1984> i would rename "driving commands" to "Speech Output"
19:24 #navit: < Usul1> but is it always speech? No text output?
19:24 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... good point...
19:25 #navit: < Usul1> But I don't think this is the right term...
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19:25 #navit: < Usul1> Number6: you are a native speaker?
19:26 #navit: < Angelus88> maybe driving routes
19:26 #navit: < Usul1> hmm
19:26 #navit: < xenos1984> i think the correct terminus should be "Driving directions"
19:27 #navit: < Angelus88> yes i think you're right
19:27 #navit: < Usul1> yes OSM use the same I see
19:27 #navit: < Usul1> fixed
19:28 #navit: < xenos1984> great :)
19:28 #navit: < xenos1984> btw, i registered a talk at the SotM Baltics 2013 about navit
19:28 #navit: < Usul1> You say customization is good to seperate xenos1984 ? I'm not sure if new users can differ between general config and custom styling?
19:29 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i think new users will probably not start with custom styling right away
19:30 #navit: < xenos1984> the typical config problems should rather be "get it running"
19:30 #navit: < xenos1984> anyone who edits the config beyond that is already advanced ;)
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19:30 #navit: < Usul1> maybe "custom styling"?
19:31 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, that sounds fine
19:32 #navit: < Usul1> I just added it to support, maybe we put it at the start page later on
19:34 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... what about Setup / Installation?
19:35 #navit: < Usul1> isn't that covered by the very general support category?
19:36 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i think it's a point which can be separated from other problems, so it would deserve its own subforum
19:37 #navit: < Usul1> Can you give me please am example which is dedicated to this category? :)
19:37 #navit: < Usul1> I just have ones that fit in the others as well
19:38 #navit: < xenos1984> well, assume that there is someone who would like to install navit on a raspberry pi and it crashes on startup...
19:39 #navit: < Angelus88> like me hahaha
19:39 #navit: < xenos1984> exactly ;)
19:39 #navit: < xenos1984> btw, i would take Support only as a "container" for subforums, without posts at top level, and put all others posts that don't fit in the current categories in another subforum names "Other" or similar
19:39 #navit: < Usul1> oh ok
19:40 #navit: < Usul1> so before, I would put it into the support
19:40 #navit: < Usul1> hopefully this is easy to understand for beginners
19:40 #navit: < Usul1> but hey, we will check it out :)
19:40 #navit: < xenos1984> yes ;)
19:48 #navit: < Usul1> xenos1984: you should now be a mod/admin :)
19:50 #navit: < xenos1984> Usul1: great :)
19:51 #navit: < xenos1984> let me see whether i can add some "Other topics" subforum to the support forum, for everything that doesn't fit in there... ("my cat has nightmare after watching the demo vehicle drive from prague to paris, what can i do?")
19:56 #navit: < xenos1984> https://forum.navit-project.org/viewforum.php?f=12 :)
19:57 #navit: < Usul1> +1
19:57 #navit: < Usul1> I ope the forum rules are ok?
19:58 #navit: < xenos1984> looks fine to me
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20:01 #navit: < Usul1> ok, so just a good style and then in can be ready
20:05 #navit: < xenos1984> yes
20:08 #navit: < Usul1> Concerning platform specific aspects, I guess we can encourage people to use for example [TomTom] as prefix in title
20:12 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, that's a good idea
20:15 #navit: < Usul1> we need mods who remind users on that rule ;)
20:23 #navit: < xenos1984> yes ;)
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21:05 #navit: < Usul1> So what do you say about the style? https://forum.navit-project.org
21:08 #navit: < Angelus88> I like it :)
21:08 #navit: < Angelus88> what do you mean with map rendering?
21:09 #navit: < Usul1> thanks
21:09 #navit: < Usul1> everything related to map visualisation
21:09 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm ok
21:09 #navit: < Usul1> so esp NOT routing and searching
21:09 #navit: < Angelus88> ok
21:09 #navit: < Usul1> I thought "maps" would be to general ;)
21:09 #navit: < Angelus88> yes indeed
21:10 #navit: < Angelus88> Usul1, sorry to bother you again... I'm trying to compile Navit again from the beginning
21:10 #navit: < Angelus88> do I have to install something before?
21:10 #navit: < Angelus88> something linked to navit itself I mean...
21:11 #navit: < Angelus88> because when I used apt-get install navit, it installed other things like navit-data, navit-gtk etc...
21:11 #navit: < Usul1> sorry, what do mean with install before?
21:11 #navit: < Usul1> yes, that are libs that are used to include functionality
21:12 #navit: < Usul1> if you build navit, you will need all build versions of the libs
21:12 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm like what? is there a list somewhere?
21:14 #navit: < Angelus88> oh sorry
21:14 #navit: < Usul1> https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Debian_dependencies
21:14 #navit: < Angelus88> i think i found them
21:14 #navit: < Angelus88> yes that's it sorry
21:14 #navit: < Usul1> but I recommend this one: http://astrobeano.blogspot.de/2012/10/navit-gps-on-raspberry-pi.html (seems to be more specific to rasp
21:15 #navit: < Usul1> maybe you should try this tutorial step by step
21:15 #navit: < Usul1> but don't worry, I'm absolutly no build fan, as I usually used only IDE magic before to get executables ;)
21:17 #navit: < Angelus88> hahah got it
21:17 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks
21:18 #navit: < Angelus88> ok let's see where I can get...
21:18 #navit: < Angelus88> in the meantime, can I register myself for the forum?
21:19 #navit: < Usul1> It works if you use your wiki credentials
21:21 #navit: < Angelus88> uhm.. I think I don't have them...
21:21 #navit: < Angelus88> yep, I don't...
21:22 #navit: < Usul1> sign up and I will confirm your signup before I go to bed ;)
21:22 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks, just a minute
21:23 #navit: < Angelus88> done
21:24 #navit: < Usul1> I think it will take some minutes, you need to confirm via mail first
21:25 #navit: < Usul1> ok I think your account should be active
21:26 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm nope
21:27 #navit: < Angelus88> I didn't receive the email yet
21:27 #navit: < Usul1> doesnt matter I used a workaround, your account was created
21:29 #navit: < Usul1> did it work?
21:30 #navit: < Angelus88> ok
21:30 #navit: < Angelus88> yes
21:30 #navit: < Usul1> the forum, too?
21:31 #navit: < Angelus88> I had to change the password and I was forced to do that from that link
21:31 #navit: < Angelus88> yes, forum too
21:31 #navit: < Usul1> ok, so have a good night
21:31 #navit: < Usul1> and fun with your raspy ;)
21:31 #navit: < Usul1> cya
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21:31 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks! good night and thanks!
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