--- Log opened Wed Jun 12 00:00:19 2013 00:55 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:13 -!- cp15 [etjzwk@p57B1E0A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:13 -!- cp15 [xigjil@p57B1E0A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 01:13 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 01:32 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5533.failed 02:16 -!- cp15` [ueaibt@p57B1DD34.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 02:16 -!- cp15 [xigjil@p57B1E0A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:16 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 02:17 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 03:02 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@g224051160.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:06 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@e176061010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 04:03 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@e176061010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:08 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@e176061017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #navit 04:40 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 06:04 -!- Tauso [~Thunderbi@line1.magix.net] has joined #navit 06:25 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:32 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 07:43 -!- ipa_ [81e9814b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.233.129.75] has joined #navit 07:47 -!- Tauso [~Thunderbi@line1.magix.net] has quit [Quit: Tauso] 08:38 -!- ipa2 [81e9814b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.233.129.75] has joined #navit 09:24 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 09:41 -!- Usul1 [8b1ed836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.30.216.54] has joined #navit 09:42 #navit: < Usul1> Number6: You have a minute? 09:45 -!- Usul11 [~matthias@2001:638:804:20d8:6907:3cc:253f:fe31] has joined #navit 09:45 -!- Usul1 [8b1ed836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.30.216.54] has quit [Client Quit] 09:45 -!- Usul11 is now known as Usul1 10:15 -!- Tauso [~Thunderbi@line1.magix.net] has joined #navit 10:16 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:52 -!- ScriptFanix [vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr] has joined #navit 12:35 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59 -!- ZeroOne01 [~ZeroOne01@81.189.57.6] has joined #navit 13:02 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 13:19 -!- Angelus88 [4f32a903@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.50.169.3] has joined #navit 13:23 #navit: < Usul1> wb Angelus88 :) 13:25 #navit: < Angelus88> thank you! :) 13:25 #navit: < Angelus88> I've successfully compiled Navit for the Rasp 13:25 #navit: < Angelus88> and now it's working great 13:25 #navit: < Usul1> congrats :) 13:26 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks, now I'm playing with the navit.xml to see the configuration 13:26 #navit: < Usul1> checkout the wiki, I hope it has a better structure than last year ;) 13:28 #navit: < Angelus88> yes, I'm looking there... can I ask you something about the "following" attribute for the vehicle? 13:29 #navit: < Usul1> at least you can try ;) 13:30 #navit: < Angelus88> well, 2 days ago I was wondering how to solve a problem about the indicator of the car... because since 2 days ago, the map updated itself just when the indicator was near the edge of the screen... 13:31 #navit: < Angelus88> Then I found out that adding the "follow" attribute solves right this issue 13:31 #navit: < Angelus88> now the "car" is in the center and the map moves around... 13:31 #navit: < Angelus88> Am I right till here? 13:32 #navit: < ZeroOne01> quite... 13:32 #navit: < Usul1> yes, I think thats the default behaviour. Doesn't work for you? 13:32 #navit: < Angelus88> yes now it's working but I was wondering... 13:32 #navit: < Angelus88> in the "navit.xml" there's: For SDL, you should add follow="1" to have the view centered on your position 13:32 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:32 #navit: < Angelus88> does it mean "only" for SDL? 13:33 #navit: < Usul1> AFAIK no, I use GTK at my pandora 13:33 #navit: < ZeroOne01> iirc the following attribute tells how many steps the GPS does until the map moves 13:34 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 13:34 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 13:34 #navit: < Usul1> Wasn't 0 for immedate update? 13:35 #navit: < Angelus88> ok ZeroOne01 infact I dic "follow="1" and it means that every "one" update of the GPS, the map moves right? 13:35 #navit: < ZeroOne01> there is a second attribute follow_cursor which does the Job too 13:35 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm I can check that out 13:36 #navit: < ZeroOne01> well i don't remember that but i'll check my navit.xml.. give me a second... 13:37 #navit: < Angelus88> ZeroOne01, there's no "follow_cursor" in my navit.xml 13:37 #navit: < ZeroOne01> 13:38 #navit: < Angelus88> ok, I don't have that one 13:38 #navit: < ZeroOne01> that's a small line, adding a not visible elemente to the OSD which gives you control of the follow_cursor attribute with the /-Key 13:38 #navit: < ZeroOne01> i wrote it :-) 13:38 #navit: < ZeroOne01> and it works 13:39 #navit: < Angelus88> ok :) so two solutions 13:39 #navit: < Angelus88> ok 13:39 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 13:39 #navit: < Angelus88> what I wanted to know if the follow="1" attribute works with gtk too and Usul1 said yes, so great 13:39 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks 13:39 #navit: < Angelus88> I have one last question if you may 13:40 #navit: < Angelus88> *if I may 13:40 #navit: < ZeroOne01> not really in my opinion 13:40 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:40 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm ok, I'll try then 13:40 #navit: < Angelus88> with SDL it works 13:40 #navit: < Usul1> But call me wrong, sadly I don't have my pandora unit here 13:40 #navit: < ZeroOne01> the follow attribute are the gps-steps, 0 means no step - update all the time, follow_cursor is the actual attribute 13:40 #navit: < Angelus88> don't know yet with gtk 13:41 #navit: < ZeroOne01> it works because follow_cursor is set if no other option is specified 13:41 #navit: * Usul1 never understood that strange behaviour 13:42 #navit: < ZeroOne01> additionally you can set autozoom 13:42 #navit: < Angelus88> ok I'll take a note of that line well if you don't have the need to change the behavior you can just leave it - becaus it is set to follow the cursor :-) 13:43 #navit: < Angelus88> ok 13:43 #navit: < Angelus88> my last quetion is about csv, the reason why I compiled Navit for the rasp 13:44 #navit: < ZeroOne01> it's just for your understanding, follow can make it happen, but it's actually not what it's made for 13:44 #navit: < Angelus88> ok thanks ZeroOne01 13:45 #navit: < ZeroOne01> you're welcome 13:46 #navit: < Angelus88> now, as I said, I don't know how to use the csv files 13:46 #navit: < Angelus88> I have a csv with a list of POIs 13:46 -!- Usul1 is now known as Usul1_afk 13:47 #navit: < Angelus88> each line it's written this way: id, longitude, latitude, label 13:47 #navit: < Angelus88> and I added this in the navit.xml : 13:48 #navit: < Angelus88> 13:48 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 13:49 #navit: < Angelus88> how can I know if it's working? 13:50 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 13:51 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has joined #navit 13:52 #navit: < ZeroOne01> csv als map? 13:53 #navit: < ZeroOne01> do you want POIs from csv? 13:54 #navit: < Angelus88> yes 13:56 #navit: < ZeroOne01> ok - i never tried that before, but want to... have you tried to find one of your pois on the map? 13:57 #navit: < Angelus88> yes but the problem is: how can I know the POI the map is showing isn't the POI inside the map itself of OpenStreet? 13:57 #navit: < ZeroOne01> are your POIs defined in navit? 13:58 #navit: < Angelus88> well If I try to search, there are some POIs already in the list 13:58 #navit: < ZeroOne01> f.e. if the Unicredit_Group.csv shows the location of a bank, then you have to specify, that all POIs in this csv are from the POI-Type "bank" - that's my understanding 13:59 #navit: < ZeroOne01> you can try it by defining your own type of POI 13:59 #navit: < ZeroOne01> BTW from the wiki: To use this feature you need to compile navit with the parameter --enable-map-csv 13:59 #navit: < ZeroOne01> take a look, this might help: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Custom_POIs 14:00 #navit: < Angelus88> yes Navit is compiled with that parameter 14:01 #navit: < ZeroOne01> is your item_type="unicredit_poi" somewhere specified? 14:02 #navit: < ZeroOne01> as itemgra 14:03 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm as itemgra I don't think so... let me check 14:06 #navit: < Angelus88> omg, no it's not there but the POI tags are endless! 14:06 #navit: < Angelus88> where should I add it? 14:07 #navit: < ZeroOne01> hmm.. somewhere in the navit.xml ... 14:07 #navit: < Angelus88> ok, found at the end of the file this line "" 14:07 #navit: < Angelus88> under there? 14:07 #navit: < ZeroOne01> why not :-) 14:08 #navit: < Angelus88> I ask because maybe I must respect some order or place to add it 14:09 #navit: < ZeroOne01> let me see - i took all these things out of my navit.xml and included those "new" files 14:11 #navit: < ZeroOne01> there's a layer "POI-Symbols" 14:11 #navit: < ZeroOne01> maybe i deleted the comment from there 14:12 #navit: < ZeroOne01> hmm.. in the dark-layout there's a layer named "points" with POI-icons in it 14:12 #navit: < ZeroOne01> you know you have to define you POI in every Map-Layout you want to use 14:14 #navit: < Angelus88> god, the configuration of Navit is really hard... 14:15 #navit: < Angelus88> so complicated 14:17 #navit: < ZeroOne01> look from the other side - you're able to specify nearly everything :-) 14:18 #navit: < Angelus88> yes that's true but it would be easier something automatic... 14:20 #navit: < Usul1_afk> +1 Thats what I (hopefully we) try to improve: Navit should work out of the box, but you should be still able to alter everything to your needs :) 14:21 #navit: < Angelus88> anyway, done that but still no icon of "unicredit" on the map... 14:23 -!- tryagain [~tryagain@178.216.76.15] has joined #navit 14:24 #navit: < Angelus88> ok maybe is the path of the csv wrong... 14:24 #navit: < Angelus88> let me try with the absolute one 14:25 #navit: < tryagain> Angelus88 All item types should be defined in item_def.h. Your poi too. 14:25 #navit: < Angelus88> even the custom ones? 14:25 #navit: < tryagain> Easiest way is to choose some of predefined types 14:25 #navit: < Angelus88> so use for example just bank? 14:25 #navit: < tryagain> yes 14:26 #navit: < tryagain> also we have a few custom_poi item types 14:27 #navit: < Angelus88> so I should not touch the tags where the itemgra are and just edit the item_type in the map ? 14:27 #navit: < tryagain> to be precise, custom pois are poi_cusotm0 ... poi_customf 14:28 #navit: < Angelus88> ok... 14:28 #navit: < tryagain> if a given poi is already specified as itemgra in your layout, do not touch it. If you manage to fing unused poi type, add it 14:28 #navit: < tryagain> *find 14:29 #navit: < Angelus88> the list of the predefined types are insed the "" right? 14:29 #navit: < Angelus88> *inside 14:30 #navit: < tryagain> it doesnt matter, how the layer is named. Order of layers is meaningful (to have pois drawn on the top of areas) 14:31 #navit: < Angelus88> great, now it's working :) 14:32 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks buddy 14:32 #navit: < Angelus88> I just used "poi_bank" and it's working 14:32 #navit: < tryagain> you're welcome 14:32 #navit: < tryagain> there was a discussion few days ago on custom pois here... Probably you can specify paths to icons representing poi_custom icons in the csv file. So each item may have separate icon. 14:33 #navit: < tryagain> *poi_custom items 14:33 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm well it's ok I'll take a look 14:34 #navit: < Angelus88> if I want to hide some POIs to not show them on the map, do I have to "comment" the tag of that type? 14:36 #navit: < tryagain> well, you probably can setup an osd button to switch off the unneeded layer of your layout. Here layer name has a value. 14:37 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm ok, I can try 14:37 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks a lot, now I have a lot to do with the oher csv files 14:37 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks again! 14:38 #navit: < ZeroOne01> tryagain - what kind of switch do you mean? 14:38 #navit: < tryagain> If you manage to get the layer object, try to switch its active attribute 14:39 #navit: < ZeroOne01> like layer="points" active="false" 14:40 #navit: < tryagain> more likely navit.layouts[@name="Car"][@name="points"].active=0 14:41 #navit: < tryagain> or may be navit.layout.layers[@name="points"].active=0 14:42 #navit: < tryagain> these samples will not wor out of the box, they are rather directions where to dig 14:42 #navit: < tryagain> *work 14:43 #navit: < ZeroOne01> i see - interesting option, shouldn't it also be possible to set this attribute in the navit.xml? 14:44 #navit: < tryagain> yes, i think you should be able to switch layers on/off with active attribute. If you can't we should add this possibility to code. 14:44 #navit: < ZeroOne01> f.e. i don't need a food store POI when in the night layout, at day it's good to know 14:45 #navit: < tryagain> hm, these are just separate layouts, so they can have completely different layers contents 14:45 #navit: < ZeroOne01> so in the xml i can define to switch food stores off - and in the gui i can activate it if i use the night layout at daytime (don't know why but maybe) 14:46 #navit: < tryagain> yes, it should be possible 14:47 #navit: < tryagain> but you'll have to move foodstores to the separate layer 14:47 #navit: < ZeroOne01> i see - that's an advantage... 14:48 -!- Tauso [~Thunderbi@line1.magix.net] has quit [Quit: Tauso] 14:48 #navit: < ZeroOne01> move all POIs that are available at daytime to a separate layer and deactivate it in night layout - sounds good and quite usable 14:50 #navit: < tryagain> i have verified, active attribute of layer works in navit.xml. So you just have to pull the needed object to switch it at runtime. 14:52 #navit: < ZeroOne01> i tried hardcoding in navit.xml works too 15:08 #navit: < Angelus88> ok guys, I've got to go 15:09 #navit: < Angelus88> thanks, bye! 15:09 #navit: < ZeroOne01> angelus! 15:10 #navit: < Angelus88> yes? 15:10 #navit: < ZeroOne01> i found a option in the GUI that enables and disables the feature to follow the car 15:10 #navit: < ZeroOne01> that one should be in your GUI too 15:10 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm what's the name? 15:10 #navit: < ZeroOne01> Settings/Rules/... there is my german Option "Map follows Vehicle" 15:11 #navit: < Angelus88> mmm I'm taking my Rasp with me in the car, I'll try and let you know... I remember something similar but I remember it didn't work 15:12 #navit: < ZeroOne01> well... if your update steps are to large - your map will follow but you won't recognize it 15:13 #navit: < ZeroOne01> now you've set the steps to 0 - so if you disable no the Map follows Vehicle Option you'll see it will stop to do so 15:19 -!- Irssi: No PONG reply from server irc.freenode.net in 301 seconds, disconnecting 15:19 -!- Irssi: Connection lost to irc.freenode.net 15:19 -!- Irssi: Removed reconnection to server irc.freenode.net port 6667 15:19 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.freenode.net 15:19 -!- Irssi: Reconnecting to irc.freenode.net [213.92.8.4] port 6667 - use /RMRECONNS to abort 15:19 -!- Irssi: Connection to irc.freenode.net established 15:19 !calvino.freenode.net *** Looking up your hostname... 15:19 !calvino.freenode.net *** Checking Ident 15:19 !calvino.freenode.net *** Found your hostname 15:19 !calvino.freenode.net *** No Ident response 15:19 -!- Welcome to the freenode Internet Relay Chat Network NavitLogger 15:19 -!- Your host is calvino.freenode.net[213.92.8.4/6667], running version ircd-seven-1.1.3 15:19 -!- This server was created Mon Dec 31 2012 at 22:38:09 CET 15:19 -!- calvino.freenode.net ircd-seven-1.1.3 DOQRSZaghilopswz CFILMPQSbcefgijklmnopqrstvz bkloveqjfI 15:19 -!- CHANTYPES=# EXCEPTS INVEX CHANMODES=eIbq,k,flj,CFLMPQScgimnprstz CHANLIMIT=#:120 PREFIX=(ov)@+ MAXLIST=bqeI:100 MODES=4 NETWORK=freenode KNOCK STATUSMSG=@+ CALLERID=g are supported by this server 15:19 -!- CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 CHARSET=ascii NICKLEN=16 CHANNELLEN=50 TOPICLEN=390 ETRACE CPRIVMSG CNOTICE DEAF=D MONITOR=100 FNC TARGMAX=NAMES:1,LIST:1,KICK:1,WHOIS:1,PRIVMSG:4,NOTICE:4,ACCEPT:,MONITOR: are supported by this server 15:19 -!- EXTBAN=$,arxz WHOX CLIENTVER=3.0 SAFELIST ELIST=CTU are supported by this server 15:19 -!- There are 203 users and 85227 invisible on 27 servers 15:19 -!- 36 IRC Operators online 15:19 -!- 15 unknown connection(s) 15:19 -!- 45871 channels formed 15:19 -!- I have 5687 clients and 1 servers 15:19 -!- 5687 7821 Current local users 5687, max 7821 15:19 -!- 85430 92550 Current global users 85430, max 92550 15:19 -!- Highest connection count: 7822 (7821 clients) (425761 connections received) 15:19 -!- - calvino.freenode.net Message of the Day - 15:19 -!- - Welcome to calvino.freenode.net in Milan, Italy! 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Channel is logged : http://irclogs.navit.ie/ Follow @NavitProject on Twitter. 15:19 -!- Topic set by KaZeR [~kazer@4.170.67.86.rev.sfr.net] [Mon May 23 17:10:04 2011] 15:19 [Users #navit] 15:19 [@ChanServ] [ ColdFyre ] [ hape_ ] [ Mineque_ ] [ ScriptFanix] [ ventYl ] 15:19 [@cp15 ] [ curious__] [ ipa2 ] [ Navit ] [ tg ] [ ZeroOne01 ] 15:19 [@Horwitz ] [ davem ] [ ipa_ ] [ NavitLogger] [ tparcina ] [ ZeroOne01_] 15:19 [ Brinky ] [ fest ] [ KheOps ] [ noradtux ] [ tryagain ] 15:19 [ bzed ] [ gena2x ] [ latouche_] [ Number6 ] [ udovdh ] 15:19 [ Celelibi] [ gringo ] [ merlijn ] [ pini ] [ Usul1_afk ] 15:19 -!- Irssi: #navit: Total of 33 nicks [3 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 30 normal] 15:19 -!- Channel #navit created Sun Nov 26 06:47:57 2006 15:19 -!- Irssi: Join to #navit was synced in 12 secs 15:21 -!- ZeroOne01 [~ZeroOne01@81.189.57.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:27 -!- ZeroOne01_ [~ZeroOne01@81.189.57.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:44 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 15:49 -!- Usul1_afk [~matthias@2001:638:804:20d8:6907:3cc:253f:fe31] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:11 #navit: < xenos1984> is it possible that the map servers are not being updated correctly? according to this post, the map data is from 15. april: https://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=395 16:41 -!- udovdh [~udovdh@pindarots.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:14 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@stw-104-023.ras.uni-rostock.de] has joined #navit 17:16 #navit: < Usul1> Number6: You wrote something about the backend. Do we have a munin monitoring? 17:16 #navit: < xenos1984> hi Usul1 ;) 17:16 #navit: < Usul1> wink :) 17:30 -!- davem [~davem@skynet.skynet.ie] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:30 -!- davem [~davem@skynet.skynet.ie] has joined #navit 17:56 #navit: < Number6> Usul1: I have access to the servers, because I'm cool :-P 17:57 #navit: < Usul1> me , tooooooooooooo :P 17:57 #navit: < Usul1> <- but no clue 18:02 #navit: < Number6> You don't have access to maps5 and 7, I know that for a fact :-D 18:02 #navit: < Usul1> ahh damn, thats true ;) 18:03 #navit: < Number6> So the issue is with maps7, which isn't a great server anyway as it's network is forced to be 10MBit 18:03 #navit: < Number6> Maps5 is in the same comms room, and is on 100 /1000 Mbit 18:03 #navit: < Usul1> how about munin monitoring 18:11 #navit: < Usul1> ? 18:21 #navit: < Number6> Well, if maps5 goes down I'll know about it - it's a fairly active ssh server 18:25 #navit: < Usul1> but how about monitoring the map service and data queue itself? 18:40 #navit: < xenos1984> Usul1, btw, i got a message from conrad - actually as a letter sent to my german address -.- 18:41 #navit: < xenos1984> according to that they don't have the nexus 7 on stock for the next weeks, they asked me to order again later 18:41 #navit: < xenos1984> but then i'll already be in poland and have no use for it anymore 18:41 #navit: < xenos1984> when i get the other stuff, i will just send it back and tell them i want my money back 18:47 #navit: < Usul1> god damit :/ 18:48 #navit: < Usul1> shit hapens xenos1984 :( 18:49 -!- KaZeR [~kazer@64.201.252.130] has joined #navit 18:51 #navit: < xenos1984> yes... so either i'll quickly find a cheap, ubuntu-touch capable tablet here in estonia within the next 3 weeks, before going to poland, or i have to cancel the with-navit-on-a-tablet-through-eastern-europe-project and use my laptop instead (which is quite large and not perfect for in-car use) 18:52 #navit: < xenos1984> but on that one navit definitely works, i tested it with a usb gps antenna 18:53 #navit: < Usul1> so a fallback plan :) 18:54 #navit: < xenos1984> yes - i never go without one ;) 18:55 #navit: < xenos1984> not the most convenient, but should work anyway 18:55 #navit: < tryagain> xenos1984 why do stuck to ubunto touch? take a cheap Android phone and use android build of navit 18:56 #navit: < xenos1984> tryagain: i don't like android, i don't trust it, and so far ubuntu touch seems to be the best alternative 18:57 #navit: < xenos1984> besides, my plan was of course to port navit to ubuntu touch, which seemingly has no navi app so far - so navit would be the first one :) 18:59 #navit: < tryagain> that could be great.. if you get the device at first... 19:00 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, that would be a crucial... and here they don't have the one i ordered 19:00 #navit: < Usul1> I'm not sure how ubuntu touch will work. Don't they promote it with HTML5 apps? 19:01 #navit: < xenos1984> among ather things, yes 19:02 #navit: < Usul1> it would be a great job :) 19:03 #navit: < Usul1> BTW I have a feeling, that we currently lack of port devs? Are android and others unmaintained? 19:03 #navit: < xenos1984> well, yes, IF... 19:06 #navit: < tryagain> Usul1 there are no ports. Navit is built multiplatform so unless somebody writes something system-dependent, all builds are working almost the same 19:07 #navit: < Usul1> right, but navit differs in system integration and IMHO we should test if a build runs well on all platforms? 19:07 #navit: < tryagain> we currently have a breakout of win32/wince builds for which i think i will commit a patch soon 19:07 #navit: < tryagain> yep, regular testing on all platforms would be nice 19:07 #navit: < Usul1> what does "breakout" mean here? 19:08 #navit: < Usul1> I suggested testing/stable releases in the forum. Would be nice to get feedback :) 19:08 #navit: < tryagain> hm... better may be break down.. It's broken. 19:09 #navit: < tryagain> navigation messages consist of $1 $2 $3 instead of words 19:09 #navit: < Usul1> so cmake/autotools build fails? 19:09 #navit: < tryagain> nope, builds are ok 19:09 #navit: < Usul1> ok, so string processing has a defect 19:09 #navit: < tryagain> but program is not working 19:09 #navit: < Usul1> I think I saw a ticket for that 19:10 #navit: < tryagain> actually, two, one of wich has a patch reported to be working 19:11 #navit: < tryagain> patch needs a bit of cleanup 19:11 #navit: < Usul1> how do you currently do code reviews? 19:11 #navit: < tryagain> i sit down before a computer.... 19:12 #navit: < tryagain> :) 19:12 #navit: < Usul1> ;) 19:12 #navit: < Usul1> it's because I would like to introduce guit+gitflow+gitlab 19:13 #navit: < Usul1> so there is an official staging concept, but I don't know such things for SVN? 19:13 #navit: < Usul1> So how does the loop between committer and reviewer work here? 19:19 #navit: < tryagain> issuer can post a patch on the trac, it can be reviewed there, fixed and then commited. Sometimes it can be fixed by the reviewer. No formal procedure is defined. 19:21 #navit: < Usul1> oh, ok. Sounds very exhausting to me? 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