--- Log opened Fri Jun 21 00:00:00 2013 00:38 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:07 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5539.failed 02:18 -!- cp15` [yhvfdq@p57B1D539.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 02:18 -!- cp15 [ksewsb@p57B1D63D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:18 -!- cp15` is now known as cp15 02:18 -!- KaZeR_W [~KaZeR_W@64.201.252.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18 -!- mode/#navit [+o cp15] by ChanServ 04:27 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 04:45 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B49B80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 04:58 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B49B80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:08 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B49B80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 08:28 -!- _rd [~rd@p57B49B80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 08:59 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 10:42 -!- Lusipa [81e9814b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.233.129.75] has joined #navit 10:45 #navit: < Lusipa> hey, i need help with plugin development... anybody here who can tell me some more details than what is mentioned in the wiki 10:46 -!- gena2x [~gena@cs.teknavo.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:07 #navit: < xenos1984> Lusipa: well, i can try to help - i haven't used plugins yet, but i'm a bit familiar with the code 11:07 #navit: < xenos1984> have you had a look at the pedestrian plugin? 11:14 #navit: < Lusipa> thank you xenos... i had a short look at the pedestrian plugin, but i do not know, how i should call it to do something 11:15 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... so you could not figure out how the pedestrian plugin is being called? (actually i don't know it either, but this is where i would start to look) 11:48 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:49 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@2001:638:804:20dc:9:40ef:546c:2e14] has joined #navit 11:50 #navit: < Usul1> hi, can anybody please help Lusipa s plugin dev problem? http://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=401 11:50 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@2001:638:804:20dc:9:40ef:546c:2e14] has left #navit [] 12:04 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@2001:638:804:20dc:9:40ef:546c:2e14] has joined #navit 12:04 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@2001:638:804:20dc:9:40ef:546c:2e14] has left #navit [] 12:38 -!- ventYl [~ventyl@ip-88-212-35-8.antik.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32 -!- calix [~yaaic@62.246.121.183] has joined #navit 13:43 #navit: < calix> Hello, I'm using the current android app with 4.04 and have the following problem: the transfer of a Google maps position to navit does not work, navit crashes everytime . is this a common issue or an individual problem? thanks in advance 13:49 #navit: < xenos1984> calix: could you provide a debug log from navit? 14:04 #navit: < calix> hi. i'll try to find it. 14:10 -!- calix [~yaaic@62.246.121.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:12 -!- calix [~yaaic@ip-109-43-0-116.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit 14:15 #navit: < calix> do you know where I can find the log within android? 14:24 -!- calix [~yaaic@ip-109-43-0-116.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:25 -!- calix [~yaaic@ip-109-43-0-116.web.vodafone.de] has joined #navit 14:31 #navit: < xenos1984> sorry, no idea - i never used android myself 14:40 -!- Lusipa [81e9814b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.233.129.75] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:05 -!- ventyl [~ventyl@ip-88-212-35-8.antik.sk] has joined #navit 15:22 -!- calix [~yaaic@ip-109-43-0-116.web.vodafone.de] has left #navit [] 15:24 -!- calix [~cali@HSI-KBW-078-043-249-227.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #navit 15:26 #navit: < calix> i've found an explanation on how to debug the android version here -> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Android 15:37 #navit: < calix> here is the extraction of the log that shows an exception : 15:37 #navit: < calix> http://pastebin.com/CzJ3rg2A 15:49 -!- KaZeR_W [~KaZeR_W@64.201.252.130] has joined #navit 15:51 #navit: < xenos1984> looks like a problem in the android / java part of navit... i don't know anything about that part of the code 18:05 -!- ventyl is now known as ventYl 18:10 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@stw-105-166.ras.uni-rostock.de] has joined #navit 18:10 #navit: < Usul1> good evening :) 18:11 #navit: < Usul1> I'm currently tweaking the map style and currently play around with polylines 18:11 #navit: < Usul1> Has anybody an idea, how the dash="x,y" attribute works? 18:12 -!- fOB [~fob@ip-37-24-44-170.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #navit 18:12 #navit: < Usul1> Sadly the wiki has no information about that :/ 18:23 -!- calix [~cali@HSI-KBW-078-043-249-227.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:40 #navit: < xenos1984> Usul1: have you tried it already? 18:40 #navit: < Usul1> hi xenos1984 :) 18:40 #navit: < xenos1984> btw, hi ;) 18:40 #navit: < Usul1> 18:40 #navit: < Usul1> 18:40 #navit: < Usul1> 18:40 #navit: < Usul1> 18:41 #navit: < Usul1> I don't understand how the z-order and the dash works :/ 18:41 #navit: < Usul1> I removed the white line, but my style has no dashes anymore -.- 18:42 #navit: < xenos1984> if it works like in svg, then dash="4,8" creates a 4 pixel line, then 8 pixel nothing, 4 pixel line... 18:42 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... strange 18:42 #navit: < Usul1> and how is the config parsed? first line is first rendered? 18:43 #navit: < xenos1984> order="13-14" means this style is used for zoom levels 13 and 14 18:43 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, first line first 18:43 #navit: < Usul1> what is the corresponding zoom level in detail? 18:43 #navit: < Usul1> so max zoom in is what? 18:43 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, i read that today... 18:45 #navit: < xenos1984> well, that was for the binfile format 18:45 #navit: < xenos1984> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Binfile 18:45 #navit: < xenos1984> from your post ;) 18:45 #navit: < xenos1984> but i'm not sure about the map display 18:47 #navit: < Usul1> Hmm confusing: http://pastebin.com/JrYai57g 18:47 #navit: < Usul1> so "17-" means for all zoomlevels below? 18:47 #navit: < xenos1984> yes 18:48 #navit: < Usul1> but there are already specs for 16,15, ...? 18:50 #navit: < xenos1984> they are just above ;) 18:50 #navit: < xenos1984> in your paste 18:51 #navit: < Usul1> thats from my desktop setup 18:51 #navit: < Usul1> but it doesnt work on wince :/ 18:52 #navit: < Usul1> hmm but on desktop it's not dashed in high zooms 18:52 #navit: < Usul1> only when you zoom out .. 18:53 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... strange 18:54 #navit: < Usul1> I will play around with the desktop setup for a while 18:58 #navit: < Usul1> I think I found a bug: dash works only with 1px lines? 18:58 #navit: < xenos1984> i just tried the same with the default (car) style... yes, indeed, no dashing at high zoom levels 18:58 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, that's possible 18:59 #navit: < xenos1984> lets call it a "not-yet-implemented feature" ;) 18:59 #navit: < xenos1984> right, i remember something like this 18:59 #navit: < Usul1> I'm not sure, why should it be a problem? 19:00 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i don't remember exactly... 19:00 #navit: < xenos1984> probably there is none, it's just a matter im implementation 19:01 #navit: < Usul1> should I create a ticket? 19:01 #navit: < xenos1984> good idea - at least as a reminder to ourselves ;) i should have a look at this at some time 19:02 #navit: < Usul1> yeah but TRAC isn't anymore good to remind anything ;) 19:02 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... well, i never really used it... 19:03 #navit: < Usul1> I think we can still use it for a while, but esp. when we schedule a new release, we might consider another issue tracker 19:03 #navit: < xenos1984> which one would be better? 19:04 #navit: < Usul1> I have no idea. I suggested MantisBT for a while. But pini had bad experience with this one 19:05 #navit: < Usul1> Well, I think I can install different ones and we can give different ones a (test) try 19:07 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... well, as long as we try it, it's fine - we shouldn't test it in practise, with actual users reporting bugs ;) 19:12 #navit: < Usul1> yes, but IMHO we have 2 usecases here: 19:12 #navit: < Usul1> 1. casual users want to report errors/wishes 19:12 #navit: < Usul1> 2. We want to distille bugs/features out of it, set it on a roadmap, getting useful reports etc... 19:12 #navit: < Usul1> What I'm looking for is a solution, that allows custom attributes concerning issue type, affected components, priority, ... 19:12 #navit: < Usul1> pizza time! 19:16 #navit: < xenos1984> head isu ;) (enjoy ;)) 19:16 #navit: < Usul1> currently its kicked into ofen :D 19:16 #navit: < Usul1> BTW. are you familar with maptool internals? 19:16 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, ok ;) 19:16 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i don't have any experience with bug trackers... 19:17 #navit: < xenos1984> only a bit from the user side, but not at all from the maintainer side 19:17 #navit: < Usul1> ok 19:17 #navit: < Usul1> well I don't have further BT experience 19:17 #navit: < Usul1> I mostly know TRAC but find it somewhat unsexy 19:18 #navit: < Usul1> github ist quiet nice and easy to use for contributors, but IMHO to limited for management 19:19 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i see... 19:19 #navit: < Usul1> remine is very popular, but looks complex 19:20 #navit: < Usul1> bugzilla, launchpad is unsexy 19:30 #navit: < Usul1> Think I will install redmine on my uberspace 19:32 #navit: < xenos1984> well, we can try it ;) 19:40 #navit: < Usul1> BTW thanks for helping the plugin guy :) 19:48 #navit: < xenos1984> no problem ;) 19:50 #navit: < Usul1> Oh will the icon preocessing work? 19:55 #navit: < xenos1984> well, it should :) i haven't implemented in navit yet, but at least i have some test script running 19:55 #navit: < xenos1984> i also created some icons for you ;) png32 19:55 #navit: < Usul1> I like icons :D 19:55 #navit: < xenos1984> well, me too ;) 20:04 #navit: < xenos1984> ah, the lighthouse icon is broken 20:05 #navit: < xenos1984> the fix comes with the next bunch of icons ;) 20:17 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 20:32 #navit: < Usul1> is there somebody responsible for the default map layouts? 20:54 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31 #navit: < Usul1> Can anyone tell me, what poi_communication is? 21:37 #navit: < Usul1> jesus, the default poi categories are really outdated :/ 21:38 #navit: < xenos1984> poi_communication... 21:41 #navit: < Usul1> It's a bit hard to get an idea for certain POIs what they are and how they differ from others 21:41 #navit: < Usul1> hard if you have the spirit of an openstreetmapper ;) 21:46 #navit: < xenos1984> indeed ;) 21:53 #navit: < xenos1984> this is really confusing... 22:15 #navit: < Usul1> thanks for the icons xenos1984 :) 22:16 #navit: < xenos1984> you're welcome ;) 22:16 #navit: < Usul1> so what do you think, shoult we patch the style to match the filenames? 22:17 #navit: < Usul1> or just replace existing icon files in a first step? 22:19 #navit: < xenos1984> at first it's probably easier to replace existing icons 22:19 #navit: < xenos1984> but on the long run some larger cleanup would be good 22:19 #navit: < Usul1> kk 22:19 #navit: < Usul1> I think this will need some tuning 22:20 #navit: < Usul1> IMHO it might be wise to use very prominent feates (police, hospitals) with background 22:20 #navit: < Usul1> but anyway, this needs an review and trial and error :) 22:21 #navit: < xenos1984> yes ;) 22:21 #navit: < xenos1984> btw, i found this: https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Item_def_new.h 22:22 #navit: < Usul1> yep, but martin stated that the list is out of date 22:23 #navit: < Usul1> my problem is, that some definitions are very vague 22:23 #navit: < Usul1> maybe not that a problem, but creates some confusing data/viz 22:26 #navit: < xenos1984> yes, that's true 22:26 #navit: < xenos1984> one should really go through it and clean up... 22:27 #navit: < Usul1> I think I can do it, but before I like to train myself on my local devices 22:27 #navit: < Usul1> oh and I would need a mission statement ;) 22:28 #navit: < xenos1984> mission statement? 22:29 #navit: < Usul1> what should the default map style display, how should I refactor/cleanup etc. 22:29 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... good point.. 22:31 #navit: < Usul1> I think I have a plan basing on all my thoughts about devices, usecases, modularization, ... 22:31 #navit: < Usul1> I will give it a try here at my devices, so the team can talk about that 22:35 #navit: < xenos1984> great :) 22:39 #navit: < Usul1> ok, my very basic redmine setup is running: http://oneofx.draco.uberspace.de/redmine/projects 22:39 #navit: < Usul1> but I think it's time for bed now #yawn 22:39 #navit: < Usul1> good night xenos1984 :D 22:39 #navit: < Usul1> cya 22:40 -!- Usul1 [~matthias@stw-105-166.ras.uni-rostock.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:40 #navit: < xenos1984> good night ;) 23:39 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@131.237.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Sat Jun 22 00:00:00 2013