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01:11 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5711.failed
01:11 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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09:04 #navit: < fnicollet> hello everyone, is there an admin around about account validation (xenos?), thanks !
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09:40 #navit: < brunobrods> Hello, I am sorry to bother you guys, but I have a question regarding the routing. I have installed navit on my windows pc atm with no GPS logger connected, as I am just testing it, I was wondering is it possible to extract the GPS positions of the route that has been generated? If it is is it possible to have it in a txt file format and how do I do it? Many Thanks
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10:11 #navit: < tryagain> xenos1984: wiki admin request, see above
10:12 #navit: < tryagain> brunobrods Sorry, no such feature at the moment, but navit can be extended to do it if you have some programming skills
10:14 #navit: < xenos1984> validation done
10:24 #navit: < brunobrods> Oh fair enough, thank you vey much, regarding one of forum posts in the core section https://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=402 is this possible on a different platform?
10:33 #navit: < fnicollet> @xenos thanks, should i receive an email or something?
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11:00 #navit: < xenos1984> fnicollet: there was only one request from brunobrods
11:00 #navit: < fnicollet> ah ok, let me try again then ,thanks
11:00 #navit: < xenos1984> now it says: There are currently no open pending account requests in this list.
11:05 #navit: < fnicollet> it says my username already exists (fnicollet). I tried resetting my password (even tho i never had an approved account and I don't get any email. I checked that my email was correct in the form (fnicollet@gmail.com)
11:05 #navit: < tryagain> brunobrods the forum solution seems to be platform independent. So it may be a good starting point.
11:05 #navit: < xenos1984> fnicollet: let me see...
11:06 #navit: < fnicollet> thanks
11:06 #navit: < fnicollet> i can also request another account, using my email as a username instead
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11:08 #navit: < xenos1984> indeed, your account has been confirmed by usul1 on 31. october
11:08 #navit: < xenos1984> can you log in to the wiki?
11:20 #navit: < fnicollet> nope
11:21 #navit: < fnicollet> i have never received an activation email, so i don't even have a password
11:21 #navit: < fnicollet> even the password reset email never came through, it looks like I don't receive any email from your system
11:22 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... strange, i can try to send one again
11:23 #navit: < fnicollet> that would be cool, thanks, do I need to do something ?
11:23 #navit: < fnicollet> (i checked my spam / trash folders by the way :) )
11:23 #navit: < brunobrods> tryagain thank you very much, I will look into it, I am very new to software programming, so I dont really know what am I doing, I only have experience in Matlab.
11:24 #navit: < xenos1984> let me see...
11:33 #navit: < fnicollet> ok, thanks
11:39 #navit: < xenos1984> fnicollet, brunobrods: i cannot send a new password mail, this requires the plugin from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Password_Reset - but i cannot install new plugins, since i'm only a wiki admin, no server admin
11:39 #navit: < fnicollet> ok, thanks for looking into it
11:39 #navit: < fnicollet> should i try to create an account with another user name?
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11:41 #navit: < xenos1984> you can try, but i cannot guarantee that it will work - there seems to be some larger problem behind this, since you both have the same problem, and i don't know what causes this
11:41 #navit: < tryagain> brunobrods So good luck. At first, you'll have to build navit.exe from sources. Unfortunately, our Windows build instructions seem to be outdated :( https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Windows_development
11:41 #navit: < xenos1984> but at the moment i don't know a better solution without admin access
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11:45 #navit: < fnicollet> ok, i'll wait for now
11:46 #navit: < xenos1984> we can also ask usul1 when he's online - he is more of an expert for this
11:48 #navit: < fnicollet> i have some navit related questions but i need to run for now, will ask them later if you are on, thanks for looking into the issue
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11:58 #navit: < tryagain> We definitely now have problems sending e-mails to gmail.com accounts from our server.
12:20 #navit: < tryagain> I have notified cp15 of the mail problem. I think somebody has to put a notice on the wiki about gmail addresses being unsuitable to register new accounts.
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12:41 #navit: < xenos1984> i can do this later - need to go shopping now, tomorrow i'll go to germany for 12 days ;) cu
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13:06 #navit: < fnicollet> ok, i'll try with a none @gmail.com address
13:10 #navit: < fnicollet> Just created an account request with user "fnicollet2" and email "fnicollet@ciril.net". Just got the confirmation email this time, it is now pending review
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13:29 #navit: < tryagain> xenos1984 was going to be away... So we'lll probably have to wait till usul1 comes back.
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13:45 #navit: < fnicollet> @tryagain @xenos1984 did you get an account approval request for this email "fnicollet@ciril.net"? Thanks
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14:37 #navit: < xenos1984> fnicollet: done
14:37 #navit: < fnicollet> thanks! just got the email
14:40 #navit: < xenos1984> great! :)
14:51 #navit: < fnicollet> Just posted my (big) question on the forum about Windows 8 development with Navit, if any of you have an idea, that would be so great ! https://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=466
14:52 #navit:  * xenos1984 uses only linux ;)
14:54 #navit: < fnicollet> ahah i'm not trying to start a war here :)
14:56 #navit: < xenos1984> me neither ;) but i'm afraid i cannot help with development on windows
14:56 #navit: < xenos1984> but some people certainly can
14:57 #navit: < fnicollet> cool :)
14:57 #navit: < fnicollet> i tried to understand the code from reading the source but it ain't so easy, surely because i don't know much about C
14:58 #navit: < fnicollet> are you part of the dev team?
15:02 #navit: < xenos1984> more or less, yes
15:03 #navit: < fnicollet> there is something i didn't really understand when reading the docs
15:03 #navit: < fnicollet> about how the map data is provided to Navit
15:04 #navit: < fnicollet> I saw you can generate some bin files from OSM data
15:04 #navit: < fnicollet> but if you want to make an international app, you have to have the world OSM data saved as a bin file ?
15:06 #navit: < fnicollet> gives a total of about 12Go
15:07 #navit: < xenos1984> only if you want to travel the whole world at once
15:07 #navit: < xenos1984> you can use extracts for single countries
15:07 #navit: < xenos1984> and use a different one when you go to a different country
15:08 #navit: < fnicollet> you are right, I could split into like continent download
15:08 #navit: < xenos1984> i usually make maps only for the countries i visit, just before each trip
15:08 #navit: < fnicollet> in this page, there is a line about Garmin Maps http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Maps
15:08 #navit: < fnicollet> is that free ? does it have a better coverage ?
15:09 #navit: < xenos1984> hm... i never used those with navit - in fact i never used garmin maps at all
15:09 #navit: < xenos1984> mainly because they're not free
15:09 #navit: < fnicollet> that's what i thought :)
15:12 #navit: < fnicollet> the link to a free base map from Garmin seem to be history anyway, so i guess OSM is the way to go
15:15 #navit: < fnicollet> well, thanks for the info @xenos, i'll wait for an answer in the forums, see if I should go forward with this. Have a good day !
15:24 #navit: < xenos1984> you too!
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17:55 #navit: < brunobrods> Hello, I am very new to programming, I would like to find out what packages do I need to install from minGW to decompile the navit and how to do it. Thanks in advance
18:23 #navit: < woglinde> decompile?
18:25 #navit: < woglinde> brunobrods http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/CMake#Cross-compiling_for_Windows_CE
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19:23 #navit: < Kamikaaze|2> tryagain: I changed the gps_status callback to only happen when the status really changed. http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/963#comment:8
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19:31 #navit: < brunobrods> woglinde Thank you
19:43 #navit: < tryagain> Kamikaaze|2 so you didnt like the idea to use timer ;)
19:44 #navit: < tryagain> Have you ever seen situation where your code actually will change fixType from 2 back to zero?
19:46 #navit: < tryagain> I've got fixType==0 only when GPS was disabled during navit startup, after enabling it, fixType switches to 2 and never changes by any manipulations, regardless of actual fix or GPS enable/disable OS status.
19:48 #navit: < Kamikaaze|2> nah didn't like them :-)
19:49 #navit: < Kamikaaze|2> If i am loosing gps signal only the satellite count drops. But i thought it might be a good idea to implement it anyway. Mybe there are situations where this will happen.
19:50 #navit: < tryagain> brunobrods WinCE probably is not what you want, but at the same page woglinde told there's a section "Detailled instructions proved to be working with r4675".
19:50 #navit: < Kamikaaze|2> I am not even sure what those different fixtypes in navit's internals do
19:50 #navit: < tryagain> maybe grep ? ;)
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19:51 #navit: < brunobrods> tryagain thanks, that is exactly what i did, I just started from the point where MinGW has to be installed.
19:53 #navit: < tryagain> Kamikaaze|2 tracking code seems to use fix type to check if we're in tunnel. So you'll have to fix it.
19:55 #navit: < Kamikaaze|2> Ahh got to look better
19:55 #navit: < Kamikaaze|2> // <fix> Type of GPS fix {'none'|'2d'|'3d'|'dgps'|'pps'}, leave out if unknown. Similar to position_fix_type but more detailed.
19:56 #navit: < tryagain> logging code seems to be disabled when fixtype is zero.
19:57 #navit: < tryagain> in vehicle.c
20:05 #navit: < brunobrods> tryagain I have installed all the software, but I cannot seem to find anything called MinGW shell and what does it mean by navit source files, Is that the folder that has the navit.exe file?
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20:57 #navit: < brunobrods> Could someone please tell me where do I get the navit sources from?
21:06 #navit: < woglinde> www.navit-project.org
21:06 #navit: < woglinde> has all you need
21:16 #navit: < brunobrods> could you explain it to me alittl please, because I tried to run this "cmake ../navit -G "MinGW Makefiles"" and all it does it says that the folder does not contain CMakeLists.txt. Am I doing something wrong there?
21:35 #navit: < woglinde> brunobrods did you check out the latest svn?
21:36 #navit: < brunobrods> I got this one   navit-current.zip       04-Nov-2013 01:44  6.8M
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22:52 #navit: < brunobrods> I am having an issue with trying to build the navit, as soon as I try to run command cmake it says that there is no such file in the directory called CmakeLists.txt, am I using the correct Navit folder, as it is the one installed from the downloads server
22:54 #navit: < woglinde> is there a file called CmakeLists.txt?
22:54 #navit: < woglinde> mayber otherwise you are using the wrong sources
23:14 #navit: < brunobrods> No there is not, that is the reason it stops
23:14 #navit: < brunobrods> I think I am, but i cannot seem to find the correct ones
23:14 #navit: < brunobrods> woglinde
23:15 #navit: < brunobrods> woglinde could you please post up a link to the correct source files?
23:16 #navit: < brunobrods> sorry sources
23:19 #navit: < woglinde> *sigh*
23:19 #navit: < woglinde> its all here
23:19 #navit: < woglinde> http://www.navit-project.org/
23:19 #navit: < woglinde> svn co svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/navit/code/trunk/navit/ navit
23:19 #navit: < woglinde> install svn first
23:19 #navit: < woglinde> or use git svn
23:25 #navit: < brunobrods> woglinde thanks a lot
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