--- Log opened Sat Jun 07 00:00:09 2014
01:16 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5794.failed
01:16 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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18:59 #navit: < tryagain_> curious & all  our planet.osm seem to run out of sync.  Hope we'll have actual data on our servers in two days.
19:03 #navit: < tryagain_> cezaryzukowski if you read logs... Map ids are unique within a given map. So you may use them to query the same map for the same item after original selection is closed.
20:35 #navit: < curious> tryagain_, thanks
20:36 #navit: < curious> back from trip, it was quite tricky one , very difficult mountain terrain with lots of alternative routes
20:37 #navit: < curious> comparing to commercial gps - both lacked height profile feature, so we planned our routes with topo maps prior trip which took much time and make routes strict and error-untolerable
20:37 #navit: < curious> though navit could in theory manage at least display while commercial gps i've used even does not aim at such goal in future
20:38 #navit: < curious> big minus for navit - lack of functional lane assistant , that feat is priceless in crowded tiny towns with complex crossings
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20:39 #navit: < curious> where you have sometimes as little as 5 meters to decide for correct lane
20:40 #navit: < curious> also commerical gps outperformed navit in context of via points accessibilty (one click, ability to quickly swap them , and brief small print extra data for each via to aid what it really is besides 'point from map')
20:40 #navit: < curious> otoh commercial gps maps were horrible
20:41 #navit: < curious> routed us on many roads not suitable for cars, lacked house numbers and even street names sometimes, geo and topo features, common names of places, borders of properties etc etc etc.
20:42 #navit: < curious> basically osm maps for czech republic are imho superb and hardly comparable to any other source i've ever encountered
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20:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> had another network glitch. curious, did you get my last two lines ?
22:19 #navit: < curious> no
22:19 #navit: < curious> did not get any lines actually :)
22:22 #navit: < curious> heh, it's 2014 and i've realized most irc networks i know don't support ssh tunnel gateway for registered users
22:22 #navit: < tryagain_> courious nb, we have http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1160 for lane assistant request.
22:24 #navit: < tryagain_> route point management feature seems to worth its own ticket, too (if we don't have one already)
22:27 #navit: < tryagain_> btw, planet.o5m we use to produce planet.bin has grown 10% after i have downloaded new current planet.osm. So we had some sufficient data loss during osm diff processing.
22:29 #navit: < tryagain_> now planet.bin is being produced, it's expected to take 24-26 hours to complete.
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22:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> <KaZeR> curious, i'd really like to keep track of that experience feedback
22:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> <KaZeR> could you expand the functional lane assistant ?
22:54 #navit: < curious> well, functional lane assistant means something allowing to keep track on lanes :) , like ticket tryagain digged out
22:55 #navit: < curious> afaik osm lacks data for it to be really reliable , but that's another problem
22:55 #navit: < curious> most of commercial gps units i use have quite decent lane assistant, and updated for most bigger cities atleast
22:56 #navit: < curious> some even keep track on online updates due to roadwork etc.
22:57 #navit: < curious> though frankly i never used those feats coz they're way too expensive trans-border (data roaming required)
22:57 #navit: < curious> good lane assistant works like rondabout assistant
22:58 #navit: < curious> it warns you on possible lane choice and tells you distance left , and which lane you should choose
23:00 #navit: < curious> right, left, 5th from right, 3rd from right , or if you have to choose lane, then swith and then sit on isle and pick another lane - like rondabout manager , so telling you 'choose 3rd lane from right, then turn left, and keep to right lane '
23:01 #navit: < curious> and stuff like 'in 300m, keep up to right lane... in 100m keep up to right lane, (50m) keep up to right lane, turn right'
23:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok makes sense. actually IIRC OSM has this information in general. at least the number of lanes, maybe not the connection to the lanes of the next segment in the case of an intersection
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