--- Log opened Sat Aug 09 00:00:41 2014
00:01 #navit: < nate`> I'm taking one of those
00:01 #navit: < nate`> replacing the white LED with a red LED.  Cuting out the photo-diode and replacing it with a motion sensor from another light I scrounged up.
00:02 #navit: < nate`> Placing that about 5 feet above ground on a pig trail.
00:02 #navit: < nate`> So pig walks by, light turns on, I know where to head ;)
00:02 #navit: < nate`> red light above a pig's head won't spook it
00:04 #navit: < nate`> So set up a few of those where I have some trails spec'd out.  I can then sit in an area to watch multiple.  WHen something turns on I can then stalk at night to where they're at and well free bacon after that.
00:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm
00:05 #navit: < nate`> I met some fire fighter from Austin, he and his family have some land near where I live.  They're over run with hogs and well he loves shooting guns as much as I do.
00:51 #navit: < bafplus> here piggie piggie piggie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7heiqgVajeY
00:51 #navit: < bafplus> sorry...couldnt resist
00:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha that guy and you seems to be perfect matches for neighbors :)
01:11 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5851.failed
01:11 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
01:24 #navit: < bafplus> KaZeR , how to directly open the "filter" screen of pois in direct location?
01:24 #navit: < bafplus> gui.vehicle.poi.filter() ???
01:27 #navit: < bafplus> i need a osd button that alows meto search poi in my current location (without having to click 4 screens )
01:30 #navit: < bafplus> Whops...time flies when you're diving into a new OSD design ;-)
01:30 #navit: < bafplus> 3:30 am...think i will go to bed now...
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09:48 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus you were asking about gtk gui. We have something like that, see http://download.navit-project.org/navit/win32_gtk_cmake/
09:49 #navit: < tryagain> please read INSTALL file before you start. I'm unsure if it will work though...
09:59 #navit: < bafplus> Let me take a look...
10:00 #navit: < bafplus> Isnt this already part of the current version?
10:01 #navit: < bafplus> Ans i don't need gtk, only some function to also be active in internal gui....
10:01 #navit: < bafplus> like search on zipcode
10:07 #navit: < tryagain> we have several builds which are based on the same code, but use different features. Features of gtk gui are not available in internal one.
10:08 #navit: < tryagain> Also, zip code search is reported to be unfinished in gtk gui too, see http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1225#comment:1
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10:32 #navit: < woglinde> hi tryagain
10:34 #navit: < tryagain> hi woglinde
10:36 #navit: < woglinde> tryagain do you know if cvs poi's are searchable?
10:36 #navit: < woglinde> ups csv
10:39 #navit: < tryagain> should be. POI search is just retriveing  items from a given map region and comparing with a criteria.
10:39 #navit: < tryagain> address search is different thing and works with only selected map types
10:40 #navit: < tryagain> but POI search has an envelope button to do a local address search
10:40 #navit: < tryagain> woglinde ^^^
10:41 #navit: < woglinde> I started to fix the coverity bugreports
10:41 #navit: < tryagain> great!
10:41 #navit: < woglinde> and csvmap.c is the first now
10:41 #navit: < woglinde> but I want to make sure it is still working
10:42 #navit: < bafplus> csv pois are searchable, but navit crashes if seararea is to big and you have to much pois in database
10:42 #navit: < tryagain> good idea
10:42 #navit: < woglinde> even when I only recfator the variables
10:42 #navit: < tryagain> hm
10:42 #navit: < tryagain> may be that's a general poi search limitation?
10:43 #navit: < bafplus> say i want to do a search within 100km range, and i have database of around 800.000 pois...it crashes :-)
10:43 #navit: < tryagain> do all these pois match your search criteria?
10:44 #navit: < bafplus> is there a way to "hide" the housnumber "poi" when you search for a poi nearby?
10:44 #navit: < tryagain> do you mean that envelope button or poi items themselves?
10:46 #navit: < tryagain> actually POI search were not designed to display very big number of results. It's intended to handle volumes which average non-maniac user can browse through :)
10:52 #navit: < bafplus> No its BEFORE you give any searchcriteris (in the main poi screen)
10:53 #navit: < bafplus> The wholo purpose of that screen is to seen POI close by...but if a poi is 100meters away it first displays 50 housembers that are closerby displaying the first actual poi on 3rd "page"
10:55 #navit: < bafplus> i will make screenshots...back in a minute
11:00 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus, dont care, ive  reproduced it
11:00 #navit: < bafplus> poi in direct location screen one: http://nl.tinypic.com/r/21kja54/8
11:01 #navit: < bafplus> Poi page 2: http://nl.tinypic.com/r/51zj82/8
11:01 #navit: < bafplus> that poi on page 2 is 80 meter from location....
11:01 #navit: < tryagain> i'm a bit surprised by this fact... will look at the code
11:06 #navit: < bafplus> can a second level menupage be called directly from OSD? Like gui.town() opens the adressearch. I want a button that directly navigates to "my location"=>"pois in direct location" (same as screenshots)
11:06 #navit: < bafplus> would that be "gui.my_location.poi" or something?
11:09 #navit: < bafplus> Just another question...When using navit on windows, it opens 2 screens: Navit and a cmd-screen.
11:09 #navit: < bafplus> A normal user can't do anything with the cmd screen but it seems it is needed for navit to work (if you close cmd, navit also closes).
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11:10 #navit: < bafplus> Is there a way to "hide" (not just minimize) this cmd screen?
11:14 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus cmd window on windows can probably be switched off with some compilation option. I think we should switch it off,  moving all output to navit.log.  Fell free to add this problem to the list you're going to post on trac ;)
11:16 #navit: < bafplus> i will ;-)
11:16 #navit: < bafplus> shall i post the poi housenumber problem aswell or are you already looking in to it?
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11:29 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus we're not filtering any point items from the initial POI list. Only linear and area objects are skipped.
11:30 #navit: < tryagain> Should we skip any point objects besides housenumbers? Trees, electric poles, and so on? Looks like a good candidate for a ticket...
11:30 #navit: < bafplus> housenumer seems to me to be area object...trafficlights are also not listed, my opinion is that housenumbers should also be in that same "catagory", but then...do housenumbers still be available when doing a adressearch?
11:32 #navit: < bafplus> and the list of tickets is getting larger and larger ;-)
11:34 #navit: < bafplus> but then again...i think hiden only housembers is already a good start since its the most "densed" poiset...1 or 2 electric poles in the results is not that disturbing as 50 housenumbers...
11:35 #navit: < tryagain> hm, I have traffic_signals objects in initial POI list
11:35 #navit: < bafplus> I havent checked, was a wild guess ;-)
11:35 #navit: < tryagain> ;)
11:36 #navit: < bafplus> but then again...1-2 trafficlight or 50 housenumbers....
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11:46 #navit: < Navit> mdankov * r5852 /trunk/navit/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal_poi.c: Fix:gui/internal:Do not flood initial POI list with house number objects. http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5852/
11:47 #navit: < tryagain> Navit, compile
11:47 #navit: < Navit> Starting compiler
11:47 #navit: < tryagain> -50housenumbers ;)
11:49 #navit: < tryagain> afk
11:55 #navit: < bafplus> maybe 150 is better (appartmentbuildings etc could still flood)
11:55 #navit: < bafplus> I will test it tommorow...thanks!
12:52 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5852.failed
12:52 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
13:02 #navit: < bafplus> tryagain , It works (the pois in list ar my own): http://nl.tinypic.com/r/256hj06/8
13:03 #navit: < bafplus> Thanks for the fic
13:03 #navit: < bafplus> fix...
13:09 #navit: < bafplus> Just one minor thing. Al the (map)pois in the list are prefixed with poi_(type) can we strip those tags?
13:10 #navit: < bafplus> So "poi_atm_abn amro" wil display as "abn amro" ?
13:12 #navit: < bafplus> Then all the mapitems without name (like traffic lights, electric poles etc) wil have NO discription (they only have the poi_type without actual itemdiscription), we can then exclude them (if after stripping poi-tag caracter is 0 then hide, else display)
13:13 #navit: < bafplus> My guess would be that it then ONLY displays the actual intresting POI's
13:13 #navit: < bafplus> But i've could be wrong...
13:35 #navit: < bafplus> Ans i'm still searching for a way to navigate to pois in direct surounding from OSD command....
13:44 #navit: < bafplus> afk
14:01 #navit: < bafplus> bug: Navit crashes when creating map in bookmarks screen
14:03 #navit: < bafplus> opening navit after crash does display the map, so process works but somehow navit crases after proces.
14:41 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus irc is no bugtracker
14:41 #navit: < woglinde> we have one
14:50 #navit: < bafplus> Sorry, i will put it there..
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17:59 #navit: < tryagain_> bafplus: what do you mean by creating map in bookmark screen?
18:11 #navit: < tryagain_> regarding unnamed pois: some of them are of interest. like drinking water sources, fuel stations...
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18:35 #navit: < bafplus> When you are in the bookmark screen you can create a map to put "favorites" in.
19:04 #navit: < bafplus> You have a point regarding the points.
19:04 #navit: < bafplus> havent looked at it that way.
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23:51 #navit: < Navit> woglinde * r5853 /trunk/navit/navit/map/csv/csv.c: Fix:map_csv:Remove trailing whitespaces http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5853/
23:51 #navit: < Navit> woglinde * r5854 /trunk/navit/navit/map/csv/csv.c: Fix:map_csv:Fix do not evaluate pointers before null check, found by coverity http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/5854/
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