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01:06 #navit: < curious> nate`, swamp cooler?
01:08 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-5878.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5878.failed
01:08 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
02:06 #navit: < nate`> curious: swamp cooler is a redneck air conditioner ;)
04:19 #navit: < Celelibi> Does navit use the compas or accelerometer when available?
04:20 #navit: < Celelibi> Because, really, the lack of precision of the GPS in town make it almost unusable sometime.
04:20 #navit: < Celelibi> navit think I jump from street to street and give random indications.
04:22 #navit: < Celelibi> Especially when I stop or drive really slow.
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09:57 #navit: < hoschi> hello everybody
09:58 #navit: < woglinde> hi hoschi
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10:05 #navit: < hoschi> tryagain i am currently trying to collect all item data and iam getting a strange error within an item_coord_get() call. I can follow the error to the binfile_coord_get() function. It tries to memcpy a coordinate and fails. The max value is very high (max = 10815) and its the 22205 coordinate i get from this function. Is there somethink i missed? I am retrieving an item from map_rect_get_item() function, process it by run
10:05 #navit: < hoschi> ning item_coord_get() in a while loop and in another loop the item_attr_get() function.
10:06 #navit: < hoschi> maybe there are items where the item_coord_get() function should not be called within an -while- loop?
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16:25 #navit: < bafplus> good day everyone
16:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey
16:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> so bafplus, how was your demo?
16:47 #navit: < tryagain> hi everybody
16:48 #navit: < tryagain> hoschi i don't know any limitations of item_coord_get. Probably you're doing something wrong.
16:51 #navit: < bafplus> The demo went fine, they are very enthousiastic about navit
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16:51 #navit: < tryagain> cool
16:52 #navit: < bafplus> But, at this time thay have there hands full with the new version of our planningsoftware so its going to take a while before thay are going to look further into wether or not implementing Navit
16:53 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain, can I declare a global variable for the plugin binfile ?
16:54 #navit: < jandegr> the purpose is to let it remember the last town we searched a street in
16:54 #navit: < jandegr> and then I can cure the housenumber issue
16:55 #navit: < bafplus> Are you sure jan? Would that also work with my example? Like there are 14 the same housenumbers but all in same town....
16:55 #navit: < bafplus> according to the map metadata...
16:56 #navit: < bafplus> the only differance is the zipcode....but i will shut up about that ;-)
16:56 #navit: < jandegr> I see a solution for bafplus on the horizon
16:57 #navit: < bafplus> depands how far the horizon is ;-)
16:58 #navit: < jandegr> a few small steps for us, a big step for Navit
17:00 #navit: < bafplus> bzzzzt...navit...bzzzzt...we have problem...bzzzzt...bliep....
17:02 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr sounds like a doable workaround... Probably we have no scenarios where we do house number search in a street not  belonging to last town where we searched for  streets.
17:04 #navit: < tryagain> We should analyze full text address searches if they fit. I know we have full text address search on Android.
17:04 #navit: < jandegr> were not in a multiuser env. so I thought if I can fetch the boundaries from the city of the last search I can take the same bounding box
17:04 #navit: < jandegr> as is used for serching the street in a town with known boundaries
17:05 #navit: < jandegr> I am an Android user, but if we can get ik ok for the internal Gui it's fine
17:05 #navit: < tryagain> it's the change which could break android full text search. We should analyze.
17:06 #navit: < bafplus> jan...and how does that lead to a sollution for me?
17:07 #navit: < jandegr> I might give it a try anyway, I build my own navit's on linux anyway, noone is hurt if it is not perfect and we could draw lessons from it to find better solutions
17:07 #navit: < jandegr> but I already thought of the android 'search for adress' and did no come across a problem yet.
17:09 #navit: < jandegr> So I declare a variable of the type town_id (lo + hi) ? somewhere in the top of the source of binfile.c ?
17:10 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus, once we solve this, the highway to your zipproblem is open.
17:10 #navit: < jandegr> In the search for housenumber I check if I can recover the boundary of the last town,
17:11 #navit: < jandegr> if not, we proceed as before
17:12 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr better declare it in map_priv struct. We may have several binfile maps installed.
17:13 #navit: < jandegr> if it succeeds, we use rightaway static struct map_rect_priv * binmap_search_street_by_place(struct map_priv *map, struct item *town, struct coord *c, struct map_selection *sel, GList **boundaries)
17:13 #navit: < jandegr> no need to fetch the boundaries in advance
17:13 #navit: < jandegr> we can use the boundaries afther the search to reject any false results
17:14 #navit: < jandegr> ok, if think you understand my thinking.
17:15 #navit: < jandegr> you are more familiar with the code than me, so you will know better where to delclare it.
17:15 #navit: < jandegr> typo : ok, I think you understand my thinking.
17:16 #navit: < tryagain> navit binfile module currently reports results to the upper level as soon as it fetches them from the map. Do you plan to store them somewhere? "no need to fetch the boundaries in advance"
17:18 #navit: < jandegr> All I need is a ref. to the last town. we searched in
17:19 #navit: < jandegr> And since I think it is way too much work to make chages in the upper level, I thought to let it be remembered by binfile itself.
17:21 #navit: < jandegr> correction : the last tow we searched a street in, before preoceeding to the housenumber search
17:22 #navit: < jandegr> I think this gives only one unique town, I don't want to remember lists of towns that partyally matched during the search for a town.
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17:39 #navit: < jandegr> the town I want to remember is the one in line 2056 / 2057
17:49 #navit: <+tryagain> jandegr agree. Storing item->id_hi, item->id_lo in a member of type struct item_id should be sufficient.
17:51 #navit: < jandegr> I suppose I can access map_priv from within the housenumbersearch ? or do you have a better place to put it ?
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17:56 #navit: < jandegr> ok, foud it, yes I can access it.
17:56 #navit: <+tryagain> You may freely access map_priv from any piece of binfile.c
17:56 #navit: <+tryagain> yes
17:56 #navit: <+tryagain> :)
17:57 #navit: < jandegr> I'll work on it in the next week, hope to bring good news soon
17:57 #navit: < jandegr> I can doisplay housenumber search results on the map with "show results on map"
17:57 #navit: < _jac_> anyone installed navit via f-droid (no other app store) lately?  I get a failed search for svox.langpack.installer...
17:58 #navit: < jandegr> when I do this after a serch for streets it centers on the street, but is there a way to display the street in another color or with some pointer ?
18:02 #navit: < jandegr> _jac_, : I use apk from svn or build my own, did you try downloading the apk itself ?
18:03 #navit: < _jac_> jandegr: I was hoping for a pointer to a reputable dl of the langpack.  Haven't set up a build environment yet, just finished cloning the repo into git. :)
18:03 #navit: <+tryagain> jandegr jandegr we have no line marking feature yet. Furthermore, marks displayed are stored in csv map which is unable to hold anything besides nodes.
18:05 #navit: <+tryagain> _jac_ svox seems to be a separate package. Please check if your system-wide settings for text to speech are fine.
18:07 #navit: < _jac_> tryagain: ahh, it's an OS issue... off to the google.
18:08 #navit: <+tryagain> jandegr but we probably can switch to textfile map able to hold any object type. But it's not able to work without a temporary file and is not very efficient for big files.
18:09 #navit: <+tryagain> jandegr: bafplus has hit recently a textfile performance problem with his POI file.
18:12 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain, it's not so important but asked to make sure I did not miss anything
18:26 #navit: < bafplus> did i?  oh jeah...when using text its reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal slow...when switched to csv i've had no problem since...
18:27 #navit: < bafplus> but then again...it holds 1,5 miljon POI's....
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19:44 #navit: < Mineque> hi
19:46 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, and how went server talk with your boss?
19:46 #navit: < Mineque> ;)
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20:38 #navit: < Mineque> quiet here tonight
20:41 #navit: < bafplus> havent gottten to that point yet...
20:41 #navit: < Mineque> ok :)
20:43 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, working on new osd
20:44 #navit: < Mineque> maybe you could tell what items you use?
20:44 #navit: < Mineque> osd items
20:56 #navit: < nate`> Software is so much easier than mechanics.  Meh.
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21:00 #navit: < Mineque> nate`, ?
21:00 #navit: < Mineque> what are you desiginng?
21:04 #navit: < Mineque> hmm
21:04 #navit: < Mineque> is it possible to see whole route with one button?
21:04 #navit: < Mineque> such "zoom to route"
21:05 #navit: < nate`> Mineque: not designing anything on mechanics right now.  Just working on a bastardized vehicle
21:05 #navit: < Mineque> sound like a fun, more details
21:06 #navit: < Mineque> ah
21:06 #navit: < Mineque> there is even such command in wiki
21:06 #navit: < Mineque> RTFM
21:06 #navit: < nate`> Mineque: my key broke off in my ignition of my 88/99 and apparently now some 87 parts, 4runner
21:06 #navit: < Mineque> zoom_to_route()
21:06 #navit: < nate`> I bought the 88 ignition cylinder and well apparently my steering column is an 87 so a different cylinder is needed.
21:07 #navit: < Mineque> what car?
21:07 #navit: < nate`> It's mostly an 88 body with some 88 parts like my axles and suspension but my transfer case, tranny and engine are from a 3.4 liter 99
21:07 #navit: < nate`> it's a 4runner
21:07 #navit: < Mineque> hmm
21:07 #navit: < Mineque> ok i see
21:07 #navit: < Mineque> googled
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21:08 #navit: < nate`> frame is also 88 according to the VIN stamped on it.
21:08 #navit: < nate`> Good times having four different VIN numbers on a vehicle.
21:08 #navit: < Mineque> nate`, yours is also so high as all in google images?
21:09 #navit: < Mineque> mean suspension
21:09 #navit: < nate`> It's raised 3"
21:09 #navit: < Mineque> nate`, four? wtf after massive crash and welded from four cars?
21:10 #navit: < nate`> Mineque: when parts disappear for vehicles it's time to replace them.  The following areas one can find a VIN:  Frame, Engine, body and column.
21:10 #navit: < nate`> The panel that holds the VIN on mine had to be replaced so that's why I have four different ones.
21:10 #navit: < Mineque> ok
21:11 #navit: < nate`> It's definitely more of an off road vehicle than a daily commuter.
21:13 #navit: < Mineque> yep, rather not highway car
21:15 #navit: < nate`> Of course I can't find the remote that came with this stupid television either.  This is frustrating.
21:16 #navit: < nate`> since I can't go driving around looking for land figured I'd get my other projects involving my beagle and pi taken care of this weekend.
21:16 #navit: < nate`> Trying to get all the damn parts together and can't find a damn remote.
21:18 #navit: < Mineque> beagle black, as carpc?
21:18 #navit: < nate`> beagle is going to be my truckpc for the 4runner
21:19 #navit: < nate`> gonna be doing music, navit and SDR.
21:19 #navit: < nate`> as well as track all information from the engine computer.
21:19 #navit: < nate`> the PI i was using for an aquaponics set up but ended up buying two blacks so I'm switching that over to the beagle and gonna turn the pi into an xmbc
21:20 #navit: < nate`> Also this weekend is to build two super swamp coolers so I can turn the AC off in this house I'm renting.
21:20 #navit: < nate`> Save money that way.
21:21 #navit: < nate`> the swamp coolers are also to do a proof of concept when I build my aging shack for ham.
21:23 #navit: < Mineque> swamp coolers means air flow via pipes in the ground/swamp right?
21:23 #navit: < Mineque> to cool down flowing air
21:23 #navit: < Mineque> with ground/swamp temp
21:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> nate`: don't forget a video of navit on the beagle :)
21:24 #navit: < nate`> KaZeR: When I get the runner back and have time to do the physical install :P
21:24 #navit: < nate`> and work out the kinks.
21:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'll keep nagging you :)
21:25 #navit: < nate`> Mineque: swamp coolers use evaporation in order to create cooler temperatures
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21:26 #navit: < Mineque> hmm
21:26 #navit: < nate`> What I'm building I need roughly 9" of 2" PVC cut into three equal sections, a five gallon bucket, a five gallon bucket cooler liner and a USB desk fan.  When put together inside place a gallon milk jug full of frozen water.  Put lid on top with fan blowing down and that should give me 42F air blowing out for about five hours.
21:27 #navit: < nate`> Since I hunt I have a chest freezer that I can keep cycling frozen jugs.
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21:46 #navit: < bafplus> hy y'all
21:47 #navit: < Mineque> hej
21:47 #navit: < Mineque> hey*
21:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> nate`: you convinced me. just ordered a beagle black rev C
21:52 #navit: < bafplus> mineque , cool , any pre-screenshots ;-)
21:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> is it possible to see whole route with one button? -> zoom_to_route()
21:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> ^- Mineque
21:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> for a button to toggle, you can for example do https://github.com/pgrandin/navit-nuc-layout/blob/master/nuc_osd.xml#L15-17
21:57 #navit: < Mineque> KaZeR,
21:57 #navit: < Mineque> [23:06:50] .:Mineque:. there is even such command in wiki
21:57 #navit: < Mineque> [23:06:54] .:Mineque:. RTFM
21:57 #navit: < Mineque> .:Mineque:. zoom_to_route()
21:57 #navit: < Mineque> but thx ;)
21:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha
21:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> i shouldn't read diagonally :)
22:00 #navit: < Mineque> ;)
22:00 #navit: < bafplus> warning...grabbing another beer....
22:01 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, but you won't jump at bar and spinning your pants?
22:01 #navit: < bafplus> table...i have no bar...
22:02 #navit: < Mineque> be carefull if you dont have strong enought table
22:04 #navit: < bafplus> I have to worry about the table...it's the sealing-fan thats worying me...
22:05 #navit: < Mineque> hehe
22:08 #navit: < bafplus> http://s3.amazonaws.com/hobartpulp/photos/1114/full_cropped_Gremlins_scene_06.jpg
22:09 #navit: < Mineque> oh damn
22:09 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, dont drink more, look what that beer made with your face
22:10 #navit: < bafplus> tha face is my normal face...the ears tho....
22:11 #navit: < nate`> KaZeR: the beagle is a nice board
22:12 #navit: < nate`> i'm drinking beer bafplus
22:12 #navit: < nate`> then again I'm putting a contractor rack onto my 88 dakota :P
22:12 #navit: < Mineque> i'm drinking tea ;(
22:13 #navit: < nate`> taking a quick moment from the texas sun to cool off in doors before I go crazy with a drill into that truck bed.
22:14 #navit: < nate`> if this old ass tool box don't fit anymore I'm gonna scrap it tomorrow.  Should get decent money with the rest of the scrap metal I have laying around.
22:17 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, KaZeR: it very early WIP version http://imgur.com/a/0jkpe#0
22:17 #navit: < Mineque> dont expect too much
22:21 #navit: < bafplus> looks good...now its time to debug my screenresolution problem...else all the osd on the right and bottem is out of screen in my laptop...
22:28 #navit: < bafplus> this is mine, mimics the layout of our planningsoftware, simple, but effective http://nl.tinypic.com/r/3538c2w/8
22:31 #navit: < Mineque> what kind of business?
22:31 #navit: < bafplus> telecomengineer
22:32 #navit: < bafplus> big cable tv/internet provider
22:32 #navit: < Mineque> ok
22:32 #navit: < Mineque> so app is for support / repair teams?
22:33 #navit: < bafplus> no, the engineers go to costumers to install modem/tettop boxes or do repairs in the network outside
22:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: i like it. this really looks good. much better than mine :)
22:34 #navit: < bafplus> some people caal me "the cableguy" ;-)
22:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: oh that damn osd transparency under win32 bug...
22:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: is it a mockup or an actual screenshot ?
22:35 #navit: < Mineque> because of osd transparency bug i could say both
22:35 #navit: < bafplus> yep...i had have 2 bugs, icontransparancy is blue instead of transparant, and the cursor has the square
22:36 #navit: < Mineque> i want to flatten that to single layer and add buttons without bgimage above each icons
22:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: remember that i can easily test out your osd on a real navit if you commit your code :)
22:38 #navit: < Mineque> KaZeR, it's photoshop only now
22:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> kk
22:38 #navit: < bafplus> ans if you want some testing in windows, i will be happy to help
22:39 #navit: < bafplus> well, have fun, i'm off!
22:39 #navit: < bafplus> Good night
22:39 #navit: < Mineque> bye
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23:02 #navit: < nate`> contractor rack put in, one tool box removed, different tool box put in.  That was not a lot of fun.
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