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06:33 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus : preview of the updte I posted on #1225 https://db.tt/QZayJQPr
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06:34 #navit: < bafplus> Morning jan
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06:35 #navit: < bafplus> Morning Jan
06:35 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus read today's irc log, you join and leave every minute !
06:36 #navit: < bafplus> bug in mi irc client, had to rejoin, sorry about that...
06:36 #navit: < bafplus> looks good jan!
06:37 #navit: < jandegr> I hope they include it so you can test it :)
06:37 #navit: < bafplus> i already replied in you're post
06:37 #navit: < bafplus> At this point it "only" can search for town right?
06:38 #navit: < jandegr> yes, town only, for starters
06:38 #navit: < bafplus> thats already i very good start (dont get me wrong, just thinking ahead already)
06:38 #navit: < jandegr> I won't be here a lot today so can you talk to the guys to have them include it ?
06:39 #navit: < bafplus> does it take that found zipcode in account for searching for the streets in the streetsearch?
06:40 #navit: < bafplus> iow does it narrow down the found streets/housenumber according to zipcode provided in the townsearch?
06:45 #navit: < bafplus> i will definitly pass it to the guys jan
06:46 #navit: < jandegr> I will continue to get it further down to the streetlevel after this is included and tested
06:47 #navit: < bafplus> pm
06:49 #navit: < jandegr> have to go help someone move to the 7th floor now, bye
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09:00 #navit: < hoschi_> hello
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10:03 #navit: < hoschi_> i got it, it was some filtering issue, dont try to gather coordinates for every item :)
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14:29 #navit: < tryagain> hoschi_ i'm interested to know what is the item which coordinates should not be taken.
14:39 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus do housenumbers in NL have zipcodes attached?
14:39 #navit: < tryagain> I mean when you view search results in navit?
14:52 #navit: < bafplus> yes the 4-digit number represents the town+street, the 2 caracters a range of housenumbers
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14:54 #navit: < bafplus> so, breaking it down: zipcode 4844VP housenumber 24
14:55 #navit: < bafplus> 4844 = town (terheijden)
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14:56 #navit: < bafplus> VP = Street (schouwstraat even housebumbers 2-26)
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15:01 #navit: < bafplus> 24 = housenumber
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15:09 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus ups. I actually have belgium map. Is it the same there?
15:16 #navit: < jandegr> hi tryagain : don't break your head over it, but Belgium never had anything like the dutch system
15:17 #navit: < jandegr> the patch I submitted today gives a search town by postcode for every country where a zipcode starts with a number
15:17 #navit: < jandegr> more usefull in general for almost any Navit user
15:18 #navit: < jandegr> I con further extend it to do the dutch system search but we should first have a few words on the search in general
15:19 #navit: < jandegr> tested the town by postcode search in the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and France
15:20 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain : I already changed the housenumbersearch to include only interpolations belonging to that street, not just any
15:21 #navit: < jandegr> now I still need to do a duplicate check on the interpolations, any hint for me ?
15:23 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain , progress on the rest of the housenumbersearch : if search by estimate, range extending is limited to once, no cascading extensions animore
15:23 #navit: < jandegr> and I have a 'max-growth' parameter to limit the amount of growth of the extension in case of search by estimate.
15:26 #navit: < jandegr> for the dutch search extension I need full search history in the 'search for street' because :
15:26 #navit: < jandegr> if country=NL and 'search for town' was done by postcode, the proceed the search for street the 'special dutch' way
15:29 #navit: < jandegr> In map_priv I already had id_lo and id_hi of last searched town, I recentle added a flag 'extendeble', I think to remember more we will need a better system of  search memory,
15:29 #navit: < jandegr> and only then continue for the dutch special.
15:29 #navit: < jandegr> rest my case.
15:30 #navit: < bafplus> for more background on the zipcodes in defferent country's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_code
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18:28 #navit: < bafplus> Hy jandegr, was afk for a while... i like the idea of extending the search with a "dutch"patch or something. But first something that works for most country's.
18:29 #navit: < bafplus> I'm still waiting for KaZeR or anybody else from dev that can but youre code in for next built to test.
18:30 #navit: < jandegr> It already works for any country that has a number as first character in the postcode, the following char's can be numbers or alfa's
18:31 #navit: < jandegr> should cover already more than 50% of the countries worldwide, and with little effort, no change in the GUI !
18:35 #navit: < bafplus> that last part sounds very nice...
18:36 #navit: < bafplus> sure hope to manage to get a linux build machine here very soon so i can build this kind of things for testing...
18:37 #navit: < jandegr> you have a computer so what wait for ?
18:39 #navit: < bafplus> time and a computer that runs direct after install ;-)
18:40 #navit: < bafplus> just put linux on a spare laptop...but having some hardware isues like wireless
18:41 #navit: < bafplus> maybe ipick this up later tonight when everyone is in bed here ;-)
18:42 #navit: < jandegr> I have a whole bunch of virtual buildmachines for linux, FreeBSD etc. all on the same laptop in VirtualBox
18:43 #navit: < bafplus> i have the toughbook from work but just 4-5 gig spare hd-space.
18:43 #navit: < bafplus> and windows
18:44 #navit: < bafplus> The other laptop now has latest linux (gui) on it but i cant use my wireless yet..it is there but is grayed out, and no way to "activate" it...
18:44 #navit: < jandegr> windows is fine, but a buildVM for Navit on Ubuntu and leave some room for a few .bin maps need at least 15GB
18:45 #navit: < bafplus> the linux laptop has 250gb so that would be no problem
18:46 #navit: < jandegr> but that includes space for eclipse, JDK and some stuff to build for Android too.
18:48 #navit: < bafplus> i tried setting up a build on the windows laptop but had some depencies problem with the ones provided from the wiki, so i figured to go to linux instead
18:48 #navit: < bafplus> should be no problem after i manage to complete the linux install with all (or needed) hardware to work...
18:49 #navit: < jandegr> I mean VirtualBox on windows is fine, inside VirtualBox you install Ubuntu, no windows dependecies issues !
18:49 #navit: < bafplus> that should work if you have the hd-space ;-)
18:51 #navit: < bafplus> somehow i ended up with a "bas-ass" laptop but the saved on hd-space...just a 60GB drive, windows and progs take more than 50gb so that leaves little room for extra things...
18:51 #navit: < curious> bafplus, what wireless do you have?
18:53 #navit: < curious> which card
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19:00 #navit: < bafplus> atheros i believe...have to check but machine is now not within reach...
19:01 #navit: < bafplus> strange thing is that running from live cd works ok...is is after install that it doesent work...
19:01 #navit: < bafplus> have to go afk now...
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21:32 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr with your patch, In NL. when i enter Zaa, i see 9584 Zaadstukken. But nothing is shown when I enter 9584.
21:35 #navit: < tryagain> That's because we use an indexed search, and only part of whole country index is available in binmap_search_get_item
21:36 #navit: < tryagain> Your filter will accept only towns which fall into the first index segment, when ordered by name.
21:38 #navit: < tryagain> Proper way would be implementing town_postal attribute search. But that would require some change in gui.
21:40 #navit: < tryagain> And then you will have to inefficiently scan all towns in current alphabet-ordered index, or implement your own zipcode-ordered index.
21:50 #navit: < tryagain> To implement your idea with transparent zip-based town search, it could be possible to tweak item_bin_write_match of itembin.c to append zipcode as one of town_match values (no change in binfile.c should be required then).
21:53 #navit: < tryagain> I've tried to add zipcode-based search feature to POI address filter (available when you press a postal envelope icon in poi filter)
21:57 #navit: < tryagain> But it looks like we need another separate button for that, because search string matching some common part of zipcode gives too much false results.
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23:01 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus jandegr http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1225#comment:10
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