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14:34 #navit: < tryagain_> woglinde: do you have backtrace of 32bit maptool crashing after 32gb slices fix applied? or maybe a patch? ;)
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16:22 #navit: < Mineque> hi
16:22 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, did you converted with tryagain patch/
16:22 #navit: < Mineque> ?
16:28 #navit: < jandegr> poland3s5cmT.bin https://db.tt/UGvH1k4M
16:30 #navit: < Mineque> thx
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16:53 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus netherlands3s5c7M.bin https://db.tt/4xrZ9RxU
16:57 #navit: < bafplus> this is Netherlands with better streetlevels/boundries end zipcodes?
16:59 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus same as the one I converted last time, but incl. plusregio's and OSM data only ca 12hrs old
17:08 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, works fine
17:08 #navit: < Mineque> no issue
17:14 #navit: < jandegr> mineque from those you could test is this one better than all the other maps ?
17:14 #navit: < Mineque> all other means?
17:17 #navit: < jandegr> mineque : map from the navit mapserver + 2 you received yesterday = 3 other maps versus poland3s5cmT.bin
17:21 #navit: < Mineque> i'll look for poland from map server and let you know + three sshots
17:25 #navit: < Mineque> ah you've sent me clean poland first of all
17:26 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus I liked the new data of the NL map, but you are the boss
17:31 #navit: < bafplus> I will test it tomorow, and not i but you are the "boss" ;-)
17:33 #navit: < bafplus> why is the wiki about buil/compile on windows so messy and hard to understand....
17:36 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus how far did you get wit windows build or where does it fail ?
17:39 #navit: < bafplus> non at all because i just cant understand the wiki....
17:39 #navit: < bafplus> what to get? what versions (links are outdated)? etc...
17:41 #navit: < bafplus> i am a dumb coder...i just need a button for "build press x" and "compile press y" ;-)
17:41 #navit: < Mineque> http://download.navit-project.org/navit/src/svn/
17:42 #navit: < Mineque> http://download.navit-project.org/navit/src/svn/navit-current.tar.gz
17:42 #navit: < Mineque> i guess
17:42 #navit: < bafplus> But with my own changes i made Mineque ;-)
17:42 #navit: < Mineque> swithc files?
17:43 #navit: < bafplus> don't know yet, i need to cyhange some colors and to "hide" some functions in the search dialog...
17:43 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, do you have linux dev env
17:43 #navit: < Mineque> ?
17:44 #navit: < bafplus> nope...my linux machine died (old laptop, non-savable)...
17:44 #navit: < bafplus> But if possible, i can run linux from live-cd or something (maybe with build environment?? is that even possible???)
17:45 #navit: < Mineque> best from bootable pendrive
17:45 #navit: < Mineque> so you could save or install new apps
17:48 #navit: < bafplus> and is someone willing to set the environment up for me??? or am i being to lazy now ;-)
17:48 #navit: < bafplus> There are some small things i want to change:
17:48 #navit: < bafplus> - Textcolor for the speedwarning
17:48 #navit: < bafplus> - zoomlevels for autozoom
17:49 #navit: < bafplus> - Hide/disable some options for the search dialog
17:51 #navit: < bafplus> but then again i want to keep up with the latest changes on svn without losing one or more of this small changes
17:51 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus, pc from landfill + ubuntu + try to make those changes
17:52 #navit: < jandegr> then think twice if you really want to make a fork
17:52 #navit: < bafplus> landfill??
17:52 #navit: < jandegr> ok the go to recycling park these days
17:53 #navit: < jandegr> from dumpsters, wastebins,
17:53 #navit: < jandegr> i386
17:53 #navit: < Mineque> i386 oldschool
17:53 #navit: < Mineque> you could buy from ebay cheap P4 now..
17:54 #navit: < jandegr> from dumpsters , landfille, don't waste money on those
17:55 #navit: < bafplus> i have 1-2 p4 machines but even ubuntu needs a lot of tweakd to even install on them ;-)
17:56 #navit: < bafplus> back in 10...
17:56 #navit: < jandegr> or use virtualbox + external usb disk for the virtual disks, I even run maptool in a VM
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18:20 #navit: < bafplus> that a nice option Jan,...
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18:22 #navit: < [1]bafplus> jandegr, ubuntu 32 or 64 bit? (last i guess)
18:24 #navit: < jandegr> is virtualbox already up and running ?
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18:26 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus take 32 or 64 as you like
18:30 #navit: < bafplus> version: linux 2.6/3.x (64-bit)   (new os-image in VM)
18:30 #navit: < bafplus> ??
18:30 #navit: < bafplus> and how many RAM (host has 4gb)
18:31 #navit: < jandegr> first set the location of the VM's to external disk
18:32 #navit: < bafplus> havent gotten to that part yet Jan...
18:33 #navit: < bafplus> Found it under settings...done!
18:33 #navit: < jandegr> https://db.tt/SHd7GX3C
18:33 #navit: < bafplus> then...new image->linux 2.6...->2Gb RAM??
18:34 #navit: < jandegr> if you don't convert maps 2GB ram is more than enough
18:35 #navit: < bafplus> Not planning on making own maps, ones suplied by planetextractor are fine (when zipcodes are added ;-) )
18:35 #navit: < bafplus> 2 it is then ...
18:44 #navit: < bafplus> Ubuntu install is running....
18:45 #navit: < bafplus> coffeetime!
18:48 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus hm
18:48 #navit: < woglinde> you could have used vagrant with virtualbox
18:49 #navit: < bafplus> vagrant?
18:49 #navit: < woglinde> yes
18:50 #navit: < bafplus> and i thaught that i knew all OS's... ;-)
18:50 #navit: < bafplus> wtf is vagrant? ;-)
18:51 #navit: < woglinde> https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/why-vagrant/index.html
18:51 #navit: < woglinde> it is no os
18:51 #navit: < woglinde> but a nice provisioning tool
18:52 #navit: < bafplus> hmm...looks nice at first sight...
18:52 #navit: < woglinde> hm ah sorry my fault
18:53 #navit: < woglinde> you have windows as main os
18:53 #navit: < bafplus> but just installed virtualbox...
18:53 #navit: < woglinde> vagrant is for unix alike only
18:53 #navit: < bafplus> ubuntu install at 85% ;-)
18:54 #navit: < bafplus> But vagrant cant build/compile navit, its just a "svn" tool right?
18:59 #navit: < bafplus> Jan, ubuntu install is downloading updates, can it be that my host browsers don't get internet anymore during that download?
19:01 #navit: < jandegr> does bafplus not have FTTH ?
19:02 #navit: < bafplus> cable
19:02 #navit: < bafplus> 180/8
19:02 #navit: < bafplus> but using wireless
19:03 #navit: < jandegr> aaah
19:03 #navit: < bafplus> but then again...suddenly my browser keeps having a proxy error since VB is up...
19:04 #navit: < bafplus> and jan, i'm a CABLE engineer....no ftth for me ;-)
19:06 #navit: < jandegr> I thought cable guys used cable instead of air
19:06 #navit: < bafplus> i told you i was lazy....
19:07 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus it is not a svn tool
19:07 #navit: < woglinde> it is a tool to setup and manage vms
19:07 #navit: < bafplus> but its a 5g wireless, a steady 80mbit....
19:07 #navit: < bafplus> or even more depending if my wife is usinghere laptop ;-)
19:09 #navit: < bafplus> fyi jan, lets say i'm the Telenet engineer that comes to you to install everything or solve problems with them....
19:10 #navit: < bafplus> Same thing but other company (UPC/Ziggo)
19:10 #navit: < bafplus> Almost...our cabli is ion the ground in stead of on poles in the air ;-)
19:10 #navit: < jandegr> woglinde if I understand the vagrant website, someone sends a configuration for a navit build machne to me, I run it and it sets up a vm with all I need ?
19:11 #navit: < bafplus> I had the same idea Jan...
19:11 #navit: < bafplus> Would be a nice thing for navit dev ;-)
19:11 #navit: < woglinde> jandegr yeah thats possible too
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19:20 #navit: < bafplus> jandegr, install ubuntu went fine, after first startup i cant get the creen bigger then 640x480 and no other resolution is available in monitor-settings...
19:28 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, you have to install guest tools or sth like that
19:28 #navit: < jandegr> next install guestadditions
19:28 #navit: < Mineque> on running machine choose menu tools or sth like that
19:28 #navit: < Mineque> somewhere there will be install guest tools/addtion
19:29 #navit: < jandegr> best is download iso from oracle and attach it to the ubuntu VM
19:29 #navit: < jandegr> then it will go almost automatic
19:30 #navit: < jandegr> and also install the extension pack on the host (for usb or shared folders)
19:33 #navit: < bafplus> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms ;-)
19:34 #navit: < bafplus> google is my friend...
19:41 #navit: < bafplus> hmm...800x600 now..still to small...the search continues...
19:43 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, "have you tried turn it off and on? " :D
19:43 #navit: < jandegr> nu autoschalen gastscherm in weergeven
19:44 #navit: < jandegr> and it will adapt to any size you make the VB window
19:50 #navit: < bafplus> it just rezizes the window, not make the resolution bigger
19:51 #navit: < jandegr> it does for me, try one of those other checkboxes over there
19:52 #navit: < bafplus> But i got it. It was a setting in the main screen settings of VB, it was set to max 800x600
19:53 #navit: < jandegr> now build navit
19:55 #navit: < bafplus> ok , where's teh Lego?
19:56 #navit: < jandegr> on the wiki
19:56 #navit: < bafplus> i will give it a shot ;-)
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20:08 #navit: < bafplus> first build running...i guess ;-)...
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20:10 #navit: < bafplus> "a smal step for a code, but a giant leap for Bafplus..."
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20:33 #navit: < bafplus> ok Jan, i got the SVN, Cmake made a Build...now i have a folder "navit" and "navit-build" whats what?
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20:37 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus follow the wiki "Running the compiled binary" if it really is already built
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20:38 #navit: < bafplus> never mind...times up for today, see you all tomorow! jandegr, thanks for the help this far
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