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10:21 #navit: < tauso> Hello, is something wrong with the maps.navit-project.org page? Last update is almost a month ago.
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16:05 #navit: < bafplus> Hy Guys
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16:55 #navit: < bafplus> Can anyone help me out?
16:56 #navit: < bafplus> By the end of this week i have to "produce" a maposearch aplication then simply can search an adres and display it on the map.
16:56 #navit: < bafplus> This should be an offline map.
16:58 #navit: < bafplus> This is to be used as "demo" for Navit so i prefer navit with some functions disabled or hidden so that "converting"to full navit will be very simple in the future.
16:59 #navit: < bafplus> It has to run on windows 7 , running "stand-alone/portable" is required.
16:59 #navit: < bafplus> So in short...can somebody help me hide some menufunctions and produce a win32 exe or does anyone have an "simple" alternative?
17:00 #navit: < bafplus> it must ONLY have 2 functions: Search bij adres and display on map, and exit the program ;-)
17:00 #navit: < bafplus> So no other functions/options should be visable/usable by the user.
17:03 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus hm
17:04 #navit: < woglinde> you can disable stuff in the internal gui with flags
17:04 #navit: < woglinde> and you have to read the source code
17:04 #navit: < bafplus> The big reason i want to use navit is that if people (work) find this usefull they can "upgrade" to the full navigation functions very easy without having to present them with a complete new interface etc.
17:04 #navit: < woglinde> to set the right flags
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17:05 #navit: < bafplus> Hy Wogline, i understand the flags part. Havent dove into them because when i found end change them i also have to be able to build them.
17:05 #navit: < Jared|> I'm trying to use Navit maps, using the planet extractor, and Arabic names are coming up as squares.
17:05 #navit: < bafplus> i succesfully setup a Linux machien and can build a linux version....but no win32 yet
17:05 #navit: < woglinde> gui type="internal" enabled="yes" radius="80" flags="3102" flags_town="9" flags_street="10" flags_house_number="8"
17:05 #navit: < woglinde> in the navit.xml
17:05 #navit: < woglinde> start with this
17:06 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus but for now you cannot disable the waypoints via flags
17:06 #navit: < woglinde> we have a patch internaly for it
17:07 #navit: < bafplus> What i want to "hide" is in the "search" and "search-result" screen. That is controled from source, not from the xml right?
17:07 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus yes that too
17:08 #navit: < bafplus> have you seen the 2 screenshots i send a few days ago with what i want to disable/hide?
17:09 #navit: < bafplus> so it doesent involve any flags used on the map, just search/display options in the search/result screen
17:12 #navit: < bafplus> @Jared have you tried fidling around with the "encoding="UTF-8"" part in the top of navit.xml?
17:13 #navit: < bafplus> I don't have any details, its just a "gutt-feeling";-)
17:13 #navit: < Jared|> bafplus: It says encoding="UTF-8"
17:13 #navit: < Jared|> should I change it to something else?
17:15 #navit: < bafplus> google on it, you should find something about it in combination with arabic symbols....  I had to change it to use special caracters so i guess arabic symbold are in a different utf-encoding, don't know wich tho....
17:15 #navit: < bafplus> To all the other guys...if i say something weird or completely false please reply ;-)
17:17 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus I did not see your screenshots
17:19 #navit: < bafplus> trew them away already...searching the logs for the links ;-)
17:20 #navit: < bafplus> http://nl.tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=adkBqYNLltvjE91HMZHMnIh4l5k2TGxc#.VE5-0vmG-Gc
17:20 #navit: < bafplus> http://nl.tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=adkBqYNLlts%2FVcqYYHc0lIh4l5k2TGxc#.VE5-0PmG-Gc
17:21 #navit: < bafplus> The "only"thing tha needs to be changed is "hiding" de things that are red-lined....
17:22 #navit: < bafplus> no need to remove the functionality, just not display them in these menu's is good enaugh...
17:28 #navit: < bafplus> so i suspect there is some kind of "view" file where this view is being build from, i think its nothing more then remove the corresponding tag within that view...
17:28 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus flags
17:28 #navit: < woglinde> on the second screen
17:28 #navit: < woglinde> code on the first screen
17:29 #navit: < bafplus> You mean second screenshot?
17:29 #navit: < woglinde> yes
17:29 #navit: < woglinde> sorry
17:29 #navit: < bafplus> so it would be nothing more then remocing the tags in the second screen?
17:30 #navit: < woglinde> hm let me see
17:31 #navit: < bafplus> If you can point me in teh good direction to what file the code is in i can take a look myself to.... havent found it yet...
17:31 #navit: < bafplus> but let me switch to my linux machine...back in a bit...
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17:35 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus hm
17:35 #navit: < woglinde> okay I think it is not settable via flags
17:35 #navit: < woglinde> was only for town/street/housenumber search
17:36 #navit: < bafplus> isnt there any files that control the gui?
17:36 #navit: < woglinde> have a look into gui_internal_cmd_position in navit/gui/internal/gui_internal.c
17:37 #navit: < bafplus> sorry if i ask for the abvious here...this all is very new to me...
17:46 #navit: < bafplus>  would it be if i delete the complete "if" statement of flags from line 1132 do something?
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18:24 #navit: < bafplus> hmm...removing thise statements doesent seem to have any effect... or i'm doing something wrong when doing a renewed build wich is very possible ;-)
18:44 #navit: < Jared|> Hmm, still not sure why non-latin characters aren't displaying
18:45 #navit: < Jared|> they just show up as square boxes :(
18:49 #navit: < bafplus> It has something to do with the caracters and the caracter-sets...not sure if it is defined from the XML or from the source... @KaZeR?
18:50 #navit: < Jared|> me neither
18:51 #navit: < Jared|> I'm not sure what font it needs or expects
19:18 #navit: < bafplus> @woglinde I think i got it...but there is something wrong with my build system....
19:19 #navit: < bafplus> Would you care to test it for me?
19:36 #navit: < Jared|> bafplus: I got it working
19:36 #navit: < bafplus> Care to share you're sollution?
19:36 #navit: < Jared|> yes
19:38 #navit: < Jared|> I installed an arabic typeface from the repo (Ubuntu 14.04), and edited my navit.xml with so it used "Droid Arabic Naskh" instead "Liberation Sans"
19:39 #navit: < Jared|> that did the trick
19:44 #navit: < Jared|> actually no... it's rendering backwards...
19:44 #navit: < bafplus> not the sollution?
19:45 #navit: < bafplus> @woglinde SUCCES!!!!  I got it!
19:45 #navit: < Jared|> It's arabic, but backwards, LTR not RTL
19:45 #navit: < bafplus> arabic is rtl right?
19:46 #navit: < bafplus> don't knowe if you can change the direction tho....
19:57 #navit: < Jared|> :/
19:59 #navit: < bafplus> But hey...put a mirror in front of it ;-)
20:00 #navit: < bafplus> just kidding... i think changing the reading direction is going to be very difficult... @jandegr or @KaZeR any ideas?
20:00 #navit: < bafplus> (they know the source way better then me)
20:04 #navit: < Jared|> yeah I could use any advice
20:26 #navit: < bafplus> @KaZeR u there?
20:35 #navit: < Jared|> ok I seem to have got it working
20:36 #navit: < Jared|> I installed libfribidi-dev, and recompiled navit.  "Droid Arabic Naskh" now renders right-to-left.
20:38 #navit: < bafplus> cool...btw...what os? linux?
20:39 #navit: < Jared|> yep, Ubuntu 14.04 (mentioned above)
20:39 #navit: < bafplus> Building for Linux? Android? ...?
20:40 #navit: < Jared|> Linux, running on desktop
20:41 #navit: < bafplus> ah...ok...
20:41 #navit: < Jared|> yeah
20:42 #navit: < bafplus> any experience in building for win32?
20:44 #navit: < Jared|> none at all
20:45 #navit: < bafplus> To bad...looking for someone who does...
20:46 #navit: < bafplus> btw..thanks for sharing you're solution
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20:53 #navit: < bafplus> Hy Woglinde ... igot it!
21:04 #navit: < bafplus> next step... making the win32 build... no succes yet...
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21:10 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus ah good
21:11 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus hm whats wrong with your win32 build?
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21:32 #navit: < bafplus> woglinde...i cant get one to work...tried setting up on windows7, couldnt get it to work, got it working on linux but cant produce a win32 yet...
21:32 #navit: < bafplus> the wiki about building on windows is like chinese to me,...
21:39 #navit: < woglinde> crosscompile it on linux
21:39 #navit: < woglinde> with mingw
21:39 #navit: < woglinde> it is all in the wiki
21:42 #navit: < bafplus> ok cool...havent seen crosscompiling mentioned enywhere there....
21:46 #navit: < bafplus> i can only find crosscompiling for windowsCE, not win32
21:47 #navit: < woglinde> its nearly the same
21:48 #navit: < woglinde> whats your linux distribution?
21:49 #navit: < bafplus> ubuntu 14
21:49 #navit: < woglinde> okay
21:49 #navit: < woglinde> than its easy
21:50 #navit: < bafplus> easy for you to say ;-)
21:51 #navit: < woglinde> sudo apt-get install mingw32
21:51 #navit: < woglinde> you master editing navit source code
21:51 #navit: < woglinde> thats more complicated than crosscompilin
21:51 #navit: < woglinde> g
21:52 #navit: < woglinde>  but proably I should add navit to mxe
21:53 #navit: < woglinde> than it is more easier to compile it
21:54 #navit: < bafplus> navit to mxe?
21:55 #navit: < bafplus> ok...mingw32 installed...
21:55 #navit: < woglinde> mxe is a crosscompile enviroment
21:56 #navit: < bafplus> aha..
21:56 #navit: < woglinde> okay go your navit source
21:56 #navit: < woglinde> mkdir build
21:56 #navit: < bafplus> in terminal i figure
21:56 #navit: < woglinde> cd build
21:56 #navit: < woglinde> cmake -DCMAKE_TOOLCHAIN_FILE=$NAVIT_PATH/Toolchain/arm-mingw32ce.cmake ../
21:56 #navit: < woglinde> make
21:56 #navit: < woglinde> thats it
21:57 #navit: < woglinde> hm ah okay
21:57 #navit: < woglinde> apt-get install libsaxonb-java
21:58 #navit: < bafplus> get that installed first?
21:58 #navit: < woglinde> and apt-get install librsvg2-bin
21:58 #navit: < woglinde> sorry
21:58 #navit: < woglinde> otherwise you will not get a sane navit.xml and no icons/images prescaled
21:59 #navit: < woglinde> ups
21:59 #navit: < woglinde> args
22:00 #navit: < woglinde> cmake -DCMAKE_TOOLCHAIN_FILE=../Toolchain/mingw32.cmake ../
22:02 #navit: < woglinde> hm hm
22:02 #navit: < woglinde> okay
22:02 #navit: < woglinde> the ../Toolchain/mingw32.cmake needs some extras
22:03 #navit: < bafplus> like...?
22:04 #navit: < woglinde> the mingw stuff is called diffrently in 14.04
22:04 #navit: < bafplus> aha...i'm in my build but the command says that the source home/user/navit is not pressent...
22:05 #navit: < woglinde> look into that file
22:05 #navit: < woglinde> Toolchain/mingw32.cmake
22:05 #navit: < woglinde> and than run dpkg -S i586-mingw32
22:05 #navit: < woglinde> for the first and so on
22:06 #navit: < woglinde> for windres you need to add i586-mingw32msvc-windres
22:06 #navit: < bafplus> eeehhh...captain?
22:07 #navit: < woglinde> and oh lol
22:07 #navit: < woglinde> the CXX variable has gcc in it
22:08 #navit: < woglinde> looks like should fix it and commit
22:08 #navit: < woglinde> +I
22:08 #navit: < bafplus> i have the file open but not shure where to look for...
22:09 #navit: < woglinde> *sigh*
22:09 #navit: < woglinde> wait
22:09 #navit: < woglinde> for my commit
22:09 #navit: < woglinde> and you will see how eas it was
22:13 #navit: < woglinde>  file navit/navit.exe
22:13 #navit: < woglinde> navit/navit.exe: PE32 executable (console) Intel 80386, for MS Windows
22:16 #navit: < bafplus> ?
22:17 #navit: < bafplus> in the mingw32.cmake?
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22:17 #navit: < woglinde> no that was the result after the crosscompiling
22:18 #navit: < bafplus> still stuck on the "and than run dpkg -S i586-mingw32 etc, etc" part...
22:20 #navit: < avic_> greetings everyone
22:20 #navit: < bafplus> Hy avic_
22:21 #navit: < avic_> I have an old Pioneer AVIC-S1 device which runs Windows CE
22:21 #navit: < woglinde> but x-files wirh scully and mulder is running
22:21 #navit: < woglinde> but it works now here
22:21 #navit: < bafplus> What i did so far woglinde: cd into root source, create folder "build" and cd into it...
22:22 #navit: < woglinde> yes
22:22 #navit: < woglinde> good
22:23 #navit: < avic_> since the maps are quite old I want to update it after long time and I was considering Navit.. any ideas about the compability considering my device being pretty old?
22:23 #navit: < woglinde> dman where is my sourceforge passwd
22:24 #navit: < avic_> or any advice on what I should install on this device making it easy and free to update once
22:27 #navit: < bafplus> avic_ why not just try navit to see if it works?
22:29 #navit: < avic_> the thing is I need navigation tomorrow, and just wanted to see if there's a supported/confirmed device list before messing my current 2006 model maps which are working
22:31 #navit: < avic_> also I'm a quite experienced with computers but never tried hacking these gps devices. so I don't really know where to start or what to do with my device
22:31 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus fix is pushed
22:32 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus now  cmake -DCMAKE_TOOLCHAIN_FILE=../Toolchain/mingw32.cmake ../ in the build dir
22:32 #navit: < woglinde> and than make -j2 or -j4 depending on your processors
22:33 #navit: < bafplus> intel core i5 would be...
22:34 #navit: < bafplus> so...i first get you're fix from svn and update the mingw32.cmake file, then cd into the source and run the command...but whats with the -j2 -j4?
22:35 #navit: < woglinde> -j is for parallel
22:35 #navit: < woglinde> so instead of using only one processor
22:35 #navit: < woglinde> -j2 uses two
22:35 #navit: < woglinde> -j4 uses 4
22:36 #navit: < bafplus> cmake -DCMAKE_TOOLCHAIN_FILE=../Toolchain/mingw32.cmake ../ -j4     ???
22:36 #navit: < woglinde> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
22:36 #navit: < woglinde>  cmake -DCMAKE_TOOLCHAIN_FILE=../Toolchain/mingw32.cmake ../
22:36 #navit: < woglinde> configures all
22:36 #navit: < bafplus> no...NOOOOOOBBBBBB
22:36 #navit: < woglinde> make -j4 compiles it
22:37 #navit: < bafplus> aha...so first run command, when then make -j4
22:43 #navit: < bafplus> ok...got the new code...run command but get errors: /usr/bin/cc -- broken
22:44 #navit: < woglinde> bafpkus whats dpkg -S i586-mingw32msvc-gcc give you?
22:44 #navit: < avic_> OK short question: I found 2 free GPS software: MoNav and Navit.
22:44 #navit: < avic_> can anyone tell which one is better for older devices?
22:44 #navit: < woglinde> "dpkg -S i586-mingw32msvc-gcc"
22:45 #navit: < bafplus> run from same folder?
22:45 #navit: < woglinde> you can run it from every folder
22:45 #navit: < bafplus> mingw32: /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gcc
22:45 #navit: < bafplus> mingw32: /usr/lib/compilercache/i586-mingw32msvc-gcc
22:45 #navit: < bafplus> mingw32: /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gcc-4.2.1-sjlj
22:45 #navit: < bafplus> mingw32: /usr/bin/i586-mingw32msvc-gccbug
22:46 #navit: < woglinde> okay good
22:46 #navit: < woglinde> apt-get install mingw32-binutils mingw32-runtime
22:47 #navit: < woglinde> remove the build dir
22:47 #navit: < woglinde> recrate it and run the cmake command again
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22:48 #navit: < bafplus> is says that both packages are the latest version and the are to be updated manualy...
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22:49 #navit: < bafplus> installed manualy...sorry, wrong translation...
22:49 #navit: < woglinde> okay
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22:52 #navit: < bafplus> just for my information...the "root" of the source...is that the same folder where "toolchain" resides in or the "navit" folder?...  so: navit-source/  or navit-cource/navit/ ?
22:52 #navit: < avic_> could anyone please guide me through my installation sometime in the following hours?
22:52 #navit: < woglinde>  navit-source/
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22:53 #navit: < bafplus> avic_ if i had any knowledge of you're system and/or wCE i would...
22:53 #navit: < bafplus> ok..thank woglinde...
22:53 #navit: < bafplus> stil ok to run the cmake now?
22:54 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus delete the build directory first and recreate it
22:54 #navit: < woglinde> just be sure
22:54 #navit: < avic_> bafplus thank you!
22:54 #navit: < avic_> anyone else? woglinde?
23:00 #navit: < bafplus> woglinde , cmake went ok, make -j4 failed, make -j2 succes but with a lot of errors on imageconversion
23:01 #navit: < bafplus> but it seems to worked!...let me boot in w7 to check... back in a minute,...
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23:14 #navit: < bafplus> woglinde it works! Where do i send the beer to?
23:15 #navit: < woglinde> Berlin Germany
23:15 #navit: < woglinde> and fine its working
23:16 #navit: < avic_> woglinde any help to Aachen Germany? :)
23:16 #navit: < bafplus> thanks for the big help!
23:18 #navit: < woglinde> avic I do not know if your device has enough power
23:18 #navit: < woglinde> and the arm ce port has not seen much love in the last time
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23:19 #navit: < avic_> what would you suggest me then for having updated maps? I have this default pioneer software installed which I have no idea what maps it supports..
23:20 #navit: < woglinde> navit has its own format
23:20 #navit: < woglinde> avic_ you could try the last arm ce build check the wiki
23:24 #navit: < avic_> I guess thuis device has Win CE and therefore I arrived here http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/WinCE
23:24 #navit: < bafplus> i think its you're best bet, i googled a bit on you're device...no way that you can update the 2006 map to a current one without paying the 150.-
23:25 #navit: < bafplus> If you want to play safe, why not install a back up program on you're cellphone (assuming you have decent smartphone...)
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23:27 #navit: < avic_> thanks a lot, that I did already with offline map cache, but battery is an issue..
23:29 #navit: < avic_> I don't really mind hacking this device, and on youtube I have seen people running iGo and something called GPSPROII on my device
23:30 #navit: < avic_> they actually install everything from tomtom to miomap
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