--- Log opened Fri Oct 31 00:00:32 2014
00:03 #navit: < bafplus> just checked, only read acces
00:05 #navit: < bafplus> i'm off, have a nice day, off to another short night of sleep ;-)
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01:23 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5917.failed
01:23 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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12:47 #navit: < czarek> Hi guys, is there anybody there ?
12:48 #navit: < czarek> when I am using Planet Extractor (http://maps6.navit-project.org/) how to check the date of update of the maps ?
12:48 #navit: < czarek> is this updated daily or weekly ?
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14:55 #navit: < czarek> Hi guys
14:58 #navit: < czarek> how ofthe is http://webchat.freenode.net updated ? weakly or daily ?
14:59 #navit: < czarek> sorry, I meant: how often is http://maps9.navit-project.org/ updated ? weakly or daily ?
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16:23 #navit: < jandegr> hi kazer , launchpad translations working again ?
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16:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey there
16:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: yep indeed. i need to fix some of them ( incorrect plurals ) because it's breaking the import but shouldn't take too long. didn't I commit the NL translation of couple of days ago ?
16:33 #navit: < jandegr> last translations update r5877 august 16th
16:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh crap i was sure i did it sorry
16:35 #navit: < jandegr> no prob kazer ,
16:36 #navit: < jandegr> and nl update closes #1240 and removes one post-it from my desk
16:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok then i really have to do it today :)
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17:03 #navit: < bafplus> Hy guys
17:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey bafplus
17:10 #navit: < jandegr> hi bafplus
17:16 #navit: < bafplus> kazer , is it possible to have a osd button that simply prints a message in the log?
17:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: yes it shouldn't be difficult. what do you want to achieve? something generic or something specific ?
17:17 #navit: < bafplus> That way i can "mark" an navigation error simply and fast during driving
17:18 #navit: < bafplus> i want a few buttons, that print a corresponding message/tag in the log. Something like "one-way street-wrong direction" "roadblock" etc..
17:19 #navit: < bafplus> When i give you the logs and tracks you can just search for the tags in teh log
17:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep that's a good idea. i have a button which takes a screenshot in my OSD. i was thinking of adding a reference to the screenshot in the log (and then we could maybe even display the screenshot directly on a map using geojson like the route export )
17:21 #navit: < bafplus> thats also a nice idea, or something both, when osd button is pressed, mark the log with a corresponding message/tag AND take a screenshot
17:23 #navit: < bafplus> that way you have some kind of an idea what was the error when you made the tag
17:24 #navit: < bafplus> that way you know where to look for when recreating the error
17:31 #navit: < bafplus> I know there is a "command" to print something to the speach engine, we can always use that, it would mark the log with "connot speak: "message""
17:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes, your idea of adding a navigation error with some kind of identifier is really good
17:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> i think it should not be too hard to push a clean message with a specific tag in the log. and that would be cleaner :)
17:32 #navit: < bafplus> and in a quick way, while driving you don't have much time to write long logs by you're own...
17:34 #navit: < bafplus> btw, my colorchange for the speedwarner works. Shall i contribute it or just keep it a custom change?
17:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> can you share a screenshot of before and after? i'm quite sure this would be interesting for everyone
17:57 #navit: < bafplus> http://nl.tinypic.com/m/id6hed/3
17:59 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus is that the speedwarner you are changing ?
18:01 #navit: < bafplus> yes, as you can see black letters look better (when within speedlimit) then green
18:02 #navit: < bafplus> tekst and sign turn red when limit is exceeded
18:02 #navit: < bafplus> I was hoping that you can override the color from within the navit.xml without succes, so i changed it in source
18:06 #navit: < bafplus> kazer, i'm thinking writing the wiki about my project with Navit on the Panasonic Toughbook...in what section in the wiki can i add this?
18:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: this looks really good indeed
18:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: that's an excellent idea to document it
18:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> i don't think that we have a "showcase" section now, but feel free to create a new page, and we'll rearrange the wiki to fix that
18:09 #navit: < bafplus> I will do that
18:09 #navit: < bafplus> Do you have any idea what could happend with the country flags with my win32 build?
18:09 #navit: < bafplus> Same as the incorrect locale folder?
18:10 #navit: < bafplus> Where are this things called from during build? Maybe i can spot the error(s)
18:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> can you remind me of the issue ?
18:14 #navit: < bafplus> When building navit for linux the country flags are visable in the townsearch (upper left from the searchfield), but in my win32 build (using same source) these images are not displayed. They are present in the image folder but only "black spaces" are displayed in the townsearch when searching for country's
18:15 #navit: < bafplus> The locale folder is build outside of the navit folder, so language doesent work, you have to move it to the navit folder to make it work, i thank that is just a path error...
18:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm. that could be two things : an issue with the image renderer, or a missing file because of a broken path i think
18:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you start navit from a command line, do you get any details ?
18:18 #navit: < bafplus> Start from commandline? little help here....
18:19 #navit: < bafplus> and i guess you mean starting it windows, not in linux...
18:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes exactly
18:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you run navit from the command line terminal i meant
18:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> (in windows)
18:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> navit should display some debuggingn information
18:20 #navit: < bafplus> so what would be the command?
18:20 #navit: < bafplus> c://navit/navit.exe?
18:21 #navit: < bafplus> just call it?
18:23 #navit: < bafplus> When i just simple call the exe it opens as normal, it seems that navit is callod from commandline always in win32
18:25 #navit: < bafplus> it always opens a terminal with only this text:
18:25 #navit: < bafplus> SPAGE_SIZE: 4096, SVALIGN:33554432
18:25 #navit: < bafplus> return dwTlsIndex = 0x18
18:25 #navit: < bafplus> very anoying btw ;-)
18:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> odd :)
18:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> nothing displays in this window when you notice the missing image?
18:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> there should be a more detailed startup log. but i'm not familiar with the windows build
18:26 #navit: < bafplus> this message is displayed always from day 1
18:29 #navit: < bafplus> no errors about that in the navit.log eather
18:29 #navit: < bafplus> i personaly think its a imagerender problem during building and/or wrong fileextension or something
18:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah that would make sense.
18:31 #navit: < bafplus> images are png
18:31 #navit: < bafplus> and normaly displayed when opened in windows, so i don't think the images themselves are the problem
18:33 #navit: < bafplus> http://nl.tinypic.com/m/id6hzd/3
18:33 #navit: < bafplus> There should be country-flags left of the country names
18:33 #navit: < bafplus> as you can see the space is reserved for the images
18:36 #navit: < bafplus> and just for fun, my navit during navigation http://nl.tinypic.com/m/id6i2t/3
18:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha nice "Navit cruiser" logo :)
18:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> have you tried alternate layouts for maps?
18:39 #navit: < bafplus> alternate layouts?
18:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> like not having the route as blue under the street
18:40 #navit: < bafplus> ow..yes i tried the OSM layout, but was to buggy
18:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> buggy ?
18:41 #navit: < bafplus> Maybe jandegr remembers when i asked him why a couple of streets were not visable because the layerorder is not correct
18:41 #navit: < bafplus> havent tried another since then, the shipped one works great...
18:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm. i did not know that
18:41 #navit: < bafplus> But i'm open for sugestiosn ;-)
18:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> well it's really a matter of taste
18:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> i like this layout for example : https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pgrandin/navit-nuc-layout/master/screenshot.png
18:42 #navit: < bafplus> surtain streetlavels are rendered UNDER the layer with the suroundings, so the street is not visable...strange to see navit dribing an open plane and saying "turn left in 50 meters" ;-)
18:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> the route you are supposed to follow is much more visible IMO, especially on highways
18:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> we'll have to investigate this :)
18:44 #navit: < bafplus> it did showed the houses btw, just not the streets, and it was only with surtain streetlevels so only parts of a district had this porblem
18:46 #navit: < bafplus> btw...olmost forgot about the "green thin line" , tried it once but didnt changed it back when i started my xml from scratch...thanks for the reminder ;-)
18:51 #navit: < bafplus> ow..now i think of it...i found a nice bug!
18:51 #navit: < bafplus> Try taking this roundabout: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/7207585#map=17/51.57556/5.06633
18:52 #navit: < bafplus> It tels you to drive clockwise instead of counter-clockwise
18:52 #navit: < bafplus> I thinks its an OSM error but the map looks good at first glance
18:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm. i have to go afk for ~1h / 1h30. can you please log a ticket for this roundabout ?
18:54 #navit: < bafplus> sure
18:54 #navit: < bafplus> have a nice lunch!
19:00 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus no ticket for roundabout !
19:00 #navit: < jandegr> pls
19:03 #navit: < bafplus> to late... :-(
19:04 #navit: < jandegr> ok, osm data was missing oneway tag, already added to osm 30 sec's ago.
19:04 #navit: < bafplus> aha...i wil close the ticket
19:05 #navit: < bafplus> but i will wait until you reply with "ok";-)
19:06 #navit: < jandegr> Way: Hasselt Rotonde (7207585) add oneway tag Edited 3 minutes ago by JanDG
19:07 #navit: < bafplus> So i can close the trac-ticket?
19:09 #navit: < bafplus> btw...if i made a change on openstreemmap, but it didnt work, how to remove my change?
19:10 #navit: < jandegr> do it all in reverse
19:11 #navit: < bafplus> Thats the point...i dont know how it was before....
19:11 #navit: < bafplus> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/51.6869/4.8837
19:12 #navit: < bafplus> I changed a few things on this intersection about 2 months ago...
19:13 #navit: < jandegr> landmeter sturen
19:13 #navit: < bafplus> I did that because navit told me to go left to the same highway so i tried fidling around with the highwayexits and its names but without succes and made it even worse...
19:14 #navit: < bafplus> LOL...havent changed the location, only name and roadtype
19:14 #navit: < jandegr> do you have a link with your edit - changeset ?
19:15 #navit: < bafplus> I would expect OSM had some feature to revert any change...
19:16 #navit: < bafplus> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24862890#map=13/51.6975/4.9123
19:16 #navit: < bafplus> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24862845
19:17 #navit: < bafplus> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24862911
19:20 #navit: < bafplus> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24977878
19:21 #navit: < bafplus> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24977895
19:22 #navit: < bafplus> I thank i got them all....
19:23 #navit: < jandegr> something wrong with josm-editor on my side, will have to wait for now
19:25 #navit: < bafplus> btw...if a street has no name, and you "only" add the streetname, does navit pick that up with the next mapbuild?  So should that street come up in the streetsearch in navit?
19:27 #navit: < bafplus> I changed one a while ago but doesnt come back in the search with the last mapbuild, or maybe its an "gemeente" error and i'm just searching wrong...
19:30 #navit: < bafplus> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/7084387#map=18/51.75568/5.26220
19:31 #navit: < bafplus> Actual adres is "Hootkamp" town="Hedel"
19:31 #navit: < bafplus> using that doesent come back when searching in navit
19:55 #navit: < jandegr> hedel is deja vu
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19:58 #navit: < bafplus> Did i mentioned that before?
19:59 #navit: < jandegr> yes, and I remember having answered it
19:59 #navit: < woglinde> hi
19:59 #navit: < woglinde> h/window 8
20:00 #navit: < bafplus> You have my sympathy woglinde
20:00 #navit: < bafplus> jandegr, must have slipt my mind then...
20:00 #navit: < jandegr> hedel is in maasdriel, maasdriel has level8 boundaries, but no label, so you fall back to search by estimate
20:01 #navit: < jandegr> falling short in this case because the hedel label is way out of the geographical centre of hedel
20:01 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus na I misstyped into my ic client
20:02 #navit: < bafplus> sure... ;-)
20:02 #navit: < jandegr> NL is the only country where I found those kind of anomalies
20:02 #navit: < bafplus> yesyes...i know...we are strange people....
20:03 #navit: < jandegr> at least those NL'ers that map OSM :)
20:03 #navit: < bafplus> LOL
20:03 #navit: < jandegr> many others are ok
20:04 #navit: < bafplus> woglinde... where can i find the "settings" used to build navit win32 in ubuntu?
20:05 #navit: < jandegr> you can't find de steegen either in hedel, same cause
20:05 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus uhm?
20:05 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus what excatly?
20:05 #navit: < bafplus> trying to debug the locale misplacement and countntry image problem
20:05 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus looks like a cmake problem
20:06 #navit: < bafplus> I don't know, using cmake to build a linux version works, it only happends with the win32 build
20:06 #navit: < woglinde> hm
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20:07 #navit: < bafplus> so i guess ther would be some script that tells where to build those folders...
20:07 #navit: < woglinde> I fear you have to dig into cmake
20:07 #navit: < bafplus> Sure..let me get my shovel
20:08 #navit: < woglinde> navit/CMakeLists.txt
20:08 #navit: < woglinde> add_custom_target( locale_resource DEPENDS locales
20:08 #navit: < woglinde> that should something after a short look
20:08 #navit: < woglinde> and po/CMakeLists.txt
20:10 #navit: < bafplus> i think the locale problem is easy to solve when you find the code, i guess its just a missing variable in the path...
20:10 #navit: < bafplus> The country images on the other hand....
20:10 #navit: < bafplus> I will boot into linux lateron and take a look at those files...
20:11 #navit: < bafplus> or are these files already present if i download the svn?
20:11 #navit: < woglinde> hm should be
20:11 #navit: < bafplus> Are genereted during compile?
20:11 #navit: < bafplus> or...
20:11 #navit: < bafplus> Damn those small keyboeards ;-)
20:12 #navit: < woglinde> no
20:12 #navit: < woglinde> they tell cmake what to do
20:13 #navit: < bafplus> btw...the wikipage works, kazer could build succesful using those directions
20:14 #navit: < woglinde> sure
20:14 #navit: < bafplus> Dont know why i got the build errors yesterday, started from scratch and worked so i must have changed something in between...
20:15 #navit: < bafplus> But is it manditory to first build fior linux first before you run a win32 build?
20:16 #navit: < woglinde> no
20:16 #navit: < woglinde> you do not have .dll for most of the stuff
20:16 #navit: < woglinde> so navit takes the build in
20:17 #navit: < woglinde> and I think at least libpng has some security bugs left
20:17 #navit: < bafplus> Can you do me a favor?
20:17 #navit: < bafplus> can you build a win32 for me and send it to me?
20:18 #navit: < bafplus> just to see if its an overall problem or its just on my system...
20:18 #navit: < woglinde> sure
20:19 #navit: < woglinde> what problem you mean with the resulting .exe?
20:19 #navit: < bafplus> i figure that if it is in the cmake files everyone should have problemd with it, this is the first time i noticed this behavior
20:20 #navit: < bafplus> yes and maybe the country flags icons themselves, only i think there is nothing wrong with the images themselves so i suspect the problem is in the navit.exe itself
20:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> woglinde: talking about the win32 build, i was able to build a win32 build from a docker instance but i have issue on the CI server. have some time to help ?
20:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> https://drone.io/github.com/pgrandin/navit/93
20:43 #navit: < bafplus> I'm afk for a while...quility time with the misses ;-)
20:43 #navit: < bafplus> read the logs later
21:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> ++ bafplus
21:25 #navit: < woglinde> ah sorry
21:27 #navit: < woglinde> bafplus http://www.familie-heinold.de/navit.exe
21:57 #navit: < bafplus> woglinde , yours has the same problem. Can you run it on youre side? and do you see the country flag when you open a town serach?
21:57 #navit: < woglinde> uhm I have no windows at the moment
21:59 #navit: < bafplus> have to go now... thanks for the build, i'm almost surtain its a build error...
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22:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> woglinde: still around ?
22:46 #navit: < woglinde> yes
22:46 #navit: < woglinde> whats up kazer?
22:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> i have a weird issue that i don't understand. i was hoping you could shed some light on it :)
22:47 #navit: < woglinde> I will try my best
22:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> i am adding a basic metric logging in navit. right now it's super simple, i am just trying to write a value from a plugin and read it from the gui to display it
22:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> here is the relevant code : https://gist.github.com/pgrandin/d2adb89cd2fae73f5636
22:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> i have also added a GHashTable *metrics_hash; to navit.c struct navit
22:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> i can write a value associated to a key
22:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> i am trying to update the value from the idle loop for now. but i'm getting a weird result :
22:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> x[32607].x[32607]....x[32607]....x[32607]....x[32607]....x[32607]....x[32607]
22:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> x means the value does not match what we expected ( the last value we set)
22:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> the value between [] is the value we got instead of the expected value
22:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> so, after 5 read/write cycles, the value differs
22:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> i guess it's related to something happening somewhere else, but 1) i can't find what and 2) i don't undestand why this value is changed
22:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> the value seems to be consistent for a session, but differs between sessions
22:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> any idea ?
22:55 #navit: < woglinde> kazer sorry no
22:57 #navit: < woglinde> I am not a guru with glib
23:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok no worries :)
23:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> the weird thing is that neither the pointer to navit nor the one to navit->hash_table is changed. both addresses are always the same
23:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> do you have another idea rather than using a hashtable in the navit object to exchange between a plugin and a gui ?
23:03 -!- mvglasow [5d875e5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.135.94.92] has joined #navit
23:03 #navit: < mvglasow> hi kazer, are you around?
23:06 #navit: < mvglasow> or anyone else who can help me with a dbus question?
23:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey mvglasow
23:14 #navit: < mvglasow> ah, there you are :-)
23:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> :) i actually have an issue, maybe you can help me too :)
23:15 #navit: < mvglasow> I was just trying to run some navigation test cases using the dbus commands you posted in #660
23:15 #navit: < mvglasow> however, when I do that from a script, I end up exporting the GPX file before route calculation finishes and end up with an empty file
23:16 #navit: < mvglasow> is there any way I can wait for route calculation to finish (blocking dus call, poll status or the like)?
23:16 #navit: < mvglasow> and what is your issue?
23:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> mm. in my use case i probably have a sleep(1) or sleep(2) in the script. we could maybe have the function loop if we are in the route calculation state
23:17 #navit: < mvglasow> can I query the status of the routing engine via dbus?
23:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> org.navit_project.navit.route: get_attr can probably provide that value. otherwise you can also probably poll it directly from the navit object in export_gpx
23:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> i can have a look at this later this week-end i think
23:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm confident that it should be easy to solve
23:19 #navit: < mvglasow> thanks, I'll give it a shot
23:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> cool
23:19 #navit: < mvglasow> how about your issue?
23:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://irclogs.navit.ie/%23navit-2014-10-31.log 22:47 i explained it to woglinde (to avoid copy / paste )
23:24 #navit: < mvglasow> let me see...
23:27 #navit: < mvglasow> this line looks suspicious:
23:27 #navit: < mvglasow> if (g_hash_table_insert (hash_table, key, &value))
23:29 #navit: < mvglasow> you're passing a pointer to an argument of your function... and something else in your code might be holding the same pointer and overwrite the value after the call returns
23:30 #navit: < mvglasow> try allocating a block of memory, copying the contents of value into it and passing that pointer
23:30 #navit: < woglinde> mvglasow hm you could register a callback which would sent a signal when routing changes
23:31 #navit: < woglinde> but that you can not catch the signal with a script
23:31 #navit: < woglinde> hm only forking a dbus-monitor away
23:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks mvglasow will check that
23:33 #navit: < mvglasow> woglinde: I'm using a shell script and dbus-send, so I guess I'll try get_attr first
23:33 #navit: < mvglasow> thanks for the moment
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