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12:08 -RichiH(~richih@freenode/staff/richih)- [Global Notice] The GNOME foundation has been forced to defend its trademark against Groupon. This goes beyond just GNOME; this is about the FLOSS community showing the corporate world that our trademarks will be defended; not just by specific victims, but by all of us. Our stance can be found at http://blog.freenode.net/2014/11/helping-gnome-defend-its-trademark/ while GNOME's can be found at http://www.gnome.org/groupon/
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18:03 #navit: < bafplus> Hy guys
18:05 #navit: < woglinde> hi bafplus
18:12 #navit: < bafplus> i tested the latest svn and works great....
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18:29 #navit: < woglinde> I did nothing
18:30 #navit: < bafplus> i'm not saying you did ;-)
18:31 #navit: < bafplus> there was a change, something about false "right" directions on a straight road if i'm not mistaken...
18:32 #navit: < woglinde> ah cool it got commited so fast
18:34 #navit: < bafplus> i still have one error but thats more licely a OSM-Map error...
18:35 #navit: < woglinde> ah no its something else
18:35 #navit: < woglinde> fix it
18:35 #navit: < bafplus> Passed it thru already to jandegr because mostly its my own error when trying to change it in OSM but cant restore it ;-(
18:37 #navit: < jandegr>  kazer hope you read logs , it learned yet another trick : use the destination info from OSM but since I am too lazy to open more tickets I posted the concept on #1265
18:37 #navit: < jandegr> oh and announce an exit with its number and name now
18:47 #navit: < bafplus> cool that last one...is that already in the svn?
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19:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
19:09 #navit: < jandegr> hi kazer
19:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: cool. actually i'd like to schedule a new release soon so it's good to know :)
19:12 #navit: < bafplus> Before you do that, we should take a look at the drone.io script for the installer, there are some small changes we need to make before we can release that to the public
19:13 #navit: < bafplus> like install folder, disclaimer, shortcuts on desktop/startmenu etc
19:14 #navit: < bafplus> Ans what would be nice is a mapdownloader somewere in the settingsmenu.
19:15 #navit: < bafplus> That would make it a lot easier to download and update a map
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19:16 #navit: < bafplus> i guess that shouldnt be that hard am i right? just a few shortlinks to the maps, that would download it, Empty current mapfolder, put download in (and use *.bin in the xml) should do it...
19:16 #navit: < bafplus> but thats me always thinking way to simple ;-)
19:24 #navit: < bafplus> jandegr, that announce on exit, does that also work with the osd-text item (next manouvre streetname) ?
19:26 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus : unfortunatly the answer is yes - and this is not a typo :(
19:27 #navit: < bafplus> Why? I would find that a big plus if its says "exit 6 Breda" instead of "A16"
19:27 #navit: < bafplus> I wioll build a fresh one later this evening and test it tomorrow
19:28 #navit: < bafplus> jandegr, i'm not that good with comiitting in SVN, would you be so kind to put a patch into the SVN?
19:30 #navit: < bafplus> https://gist.github.com/bafplus/ef6da2d2f18a41a6d72a
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19:35 #navit: < jandegr> I made a new attr. for the osm:destination info, I should have done that for osm:highway_exit: 'ref and label' as well, I just stepped into a semantic trap from Navit
19:36 #navit: < jandegr> if you look at the xml part I posted it will become clear what I mean
19:38 #navit: < jandegr> takes 1 hour max. to correct and test, but no more coding today for me.
19:40 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain hi, does it save resources to use the smallest map_rect possible ?
19:42 #navit: < jandegr> I have the impression navigation.c uses the entire map to work on and I use a 4 square meter map_rect at one point, do I save cpu or memory or is this not relevant ?
19:43 #navit: < bafplus> jandegr, could you repost the xml? or link?  Quite busy here, not much time to search the logs ;-)
19:44 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus we are still talking about #1265
19:44 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr hi. To some extent :) If you have to read the whole map, you will read it. If you have to read only tiles under 4sq.m., it will be faster. But 4 and 40 sq.m. probably wont make any sense unless these 40 sq.m. cross some a high-order boundary.
19:45 #navit: < tryagain> But if that piece of navigation.c gets items by id, it makes no sense at all.
19:49 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus you should have start menu link with our current installer, and ability to change install folder as you wish
19:49 #navit: < bafplus> jandegr, that 3d osd item (destination) is that the destination AFTER the directions or the destination set as route-destination?
19:51 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain, navigation.c line 855, but indeed a little further a get_by_id is done so that is probably ok, but in the beginning I used the same map to recover 1 node, took minutes to do so :)
19:51 #navit: < bafplus> tryagain, no, there is only shortcut for the uninstaller, and the "standard"destination could give errors if there is a space (like "program files"), so it would be better to set another standard folder (like c:/navit) to work around that
19:52 #navit: < bafplus> afk...
19:52 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain : now a 4 square meter map works as lighting :) thanks. I use that to obtain exit number and name.
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19:55 #navit: < tryagain> you probably could use a one-point map rect to be sure you don't touch a neighboring tile unless you're really need it. And iirc there are some pieces in the code which actually use such maprects. So no need to invent a wheel.
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19:57 #navit: < tryagain> for example, see maps/binfile/binfile.c, lines 1905-1910
20:01 #navit: < jandegr> thanks tryagain, will do so as in binfile, I am trying to save as much on cpu as possible, important for underpowered handhelds :)
20:01 #navit: < tryagain> sure
20:48 #navit: < bafplus> hmm..detsination stays emty at my end...The other OSD items work but i expected something else...
20:49 #navit: < bafplus> I was hoping to display the "set destination" in street+housenumber format
20:51 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus for me, installer creates the start menu entry under "Navit 0.5.0"
20:52 #navit: < tryagain> can you give a link to your installer?
20:55 #navit: < tryagain> And spaces in navit installation path seem to give no problems to me. Can you describe problems you have when installed in default path?
20:57 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus the attr_destination on only a fey hours old, would surprise me that your code already had it :)
20:59 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus : and attr_destination copies the OSM destination= tag
21:02 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus for clarification : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination
21:08 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus as example it can say "take exit 6 Aalsmeer, then follow direction Aalsmeer;Schiphol (lang parkeren);Amsterdamse Bos"
21:09 #navit: < jandegr> the last corresponding to the text on a roadsign over there : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/52.31505/4.81385
21:13 #navit: < bafplus> tryagain, The shortcut works indeed with 0.5.0, so thata changed from 0.1.0
21:14 #navit: < tryagain> sure, that was my commit that broke your build, has added shortcut
21:15 #navit: < tryagain> and changed version
21:15 #navit: < bafplus> Tha spaces can give problems when using absolute paths, like custom commands and i do belive he wav speak function is having isues with it....
21:16 #navit: < bafplus> but i have to test it...
21:17 #navit: < bafplus> is there anbyone who keeps a git synced with svn?
21:22 #navit: < bafplus> jandegr youre commit isnt comitted to svn yet correct? its now at 5938
21:24 #navit: < jandegr> bafplus : we need to think about concepts, not fastfood-like commits, pays-off really fast :)
21:24 #navit: < bafplus> :-)
21:25 #navit: < jandegr> and besides osm destination= , involves a mpatool change as well as change in navigation.c
21:25 #navit: < bafplus> aha
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