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01:14 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_arm/svn/navit-svn-5950.failed
01:14 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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14:19 #navit: < rah> when does the maps version on http://maps9.navit-project.org/ change?
14:25 #navit: < jandegr_> rah an update happened just a good week ago, don't expect too much
14:25 #navit: < jandegr_> if you need updates really fast, consider building maps yourself
14:39 #navit: < rah> jandegr_: I have but then I'm limited to the amount of data that I can get
14:39 #navit: < rah> which seems to be quite limited
14:40 #navit: < rah> I can't seem to download all of the UK from OSM
14:48 #navit: < jandegr_> I built up to 50% of europe at once, work with geofabrik downloads (and take pbf) :)
14:49 #navit: < jandegr_> the only limit is your hardware and the time you want to let it work
14:49 #navit: < jandegr_> at least if you are not thinking about planet at once
14:49 #navit: < jandegr_> that is yet another game
15:43 #navit: < rah> jandegr_: geofabrik isn't current OSM
15:52 #navit: < jandegr_> first step is try to build it and check the resulting .bin is 100% ok
15:53 #navit: < rah> lol
15:53 #navit: < rah> I don't think that's the first step
15:53 #navit: < rah> the first step is getting some data to build
15:53 #navit: < rah> <note>The data included in this document is from www.openstreetmap.org. The data is made available under ODbL.</note>
15:54 #navit: < rah> <meta osm_base="2014-11-18T15:46:03Z"/>
15:54 #navit: < rah> <remark> runtime error: Query timed out in "query" at line 3 after 181 seconds. </remark>
15:54 #navit: < jandegr_> I was about to type step 2 to get you as close as possible 'time - wise' to OSM but what's going on ?
15:56 #navit: < rah> 14:40 < rah> I can't seem to download all of the UK from OSM
15:59 #navit: < rah> <remark> runtime error: Query run out of memory in "query" at line 3 using about 513 MB of RAM. </remark>
15:59 #navit: < rah> lol
15:59 #navit: < jandegr_> is this correct : you want a uk.bin map for Navit with the shortest possible delay after an upate was don on the OSM map ?
16:04 #navit: < rah> no, I want a uk.bin map containing the changes I made to OSM yesterday
16:05 #navit: < rah> s/containing/which includes/
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16:06 #navit: < rah> it's academic now really anyway; I'm going to be starting the journey that I need the map for in an hour
16:06 #navit: < jandegr_> ok, so I my advise was correct
16:07 #navit: < jandegr_> but then you can pull it off in 1 hour if you had already some experience in buidling a few
16:08 #navit: < jandegr_> for first time 1 hr is not enough
16:09 #navit: < rah> well, I already have a map but it only contains the area of the journey, not the whole of the uk
16:09 #navit: < rah> if I suddenly find I have to travel from Manchester down to Southampton, I'll be screwed :-)
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18:57 #navit: < bafplus> hy guys
18:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi bafplus
18:59 #navit: < bafplus> I have some strange osd-button behavior...any time to take a look?
19:00 #navit: < bafplus> i have a button that directly opens the gui_town search
19:00 #navit: < bafplus> but i have to double click the button....why?
19:01 #navit: < bafplus> any othe buton works just with 1 click...
19:06 #navit: < bafplus> ow...hi KaZeR... ;-)
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19:20 #navit: < bafplus> it seems to be "stuck" with the "gui.town()" command, if i put that command somewhere else )like the zoom-in button) it shows the same problem...
19:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: could be because the code that generates the gui.town menu expects to display on another menu already rendered. there is a feature "gui_prune_menu" or something like that
19:22 #navit: < bafplus> gui_prune_menu ? I suspect thats not in the wiki ;-)
19:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's in the code :)
19:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: i can't dig it right now, but it should not be too complicated. would you mind opening a ticket? i'll try to review it this week
19:35 #navit: < bafplus> if i find the time today i will open a ticket...
19:36 #navit: < bafplus> another question, if i want to change the icon used for the desktopitem (navit.exe) that would simply be changing the icons in navit/xpm/desktopitem right?
19:36 #navit: < bafplus> i tried that but didnt work...
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19:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm. icon is probably built into the binary. did your rebuild the binary after doing the change?
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19:54 #navit: < bafplus> sure...but i found another icon, lets try that one ;-)
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20:46 #navit: < bafplus> KaZeR...when i want to add some extra images into the build with drone.io, is it just a matter of adding them to the xpm folder or do i have to define the images somewhere?
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21:25 #navit: < bafplus> KaZeR ... (again, sorry for my many questions), whats the status of the synced git of the navit-svn?
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21:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> bafplus: no worries it's good to ask questions :)
21:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> you just need to add them to the xpm folder. cmake will take care of everything else
21:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> i had a look at the synced git. basically i'd like to be able to to that on my own repo without loosing my commit history, but it's not so easy because i'm missing a tracking branch
21:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> i can also setup a repo to track the trunk, then use that as origin for push requests. that was intended to be my next attempt
21:40 #navit: < bafplus> i guess "syncing" the current svn (trunk) 1-1 to git and keep that one synced, then you can branche in in git for youre own changes and pull the future commits from the master into youre own custom-git...am i talking sence?
21:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> totally. but in this case i will loose my commit history. not that big of a deal, but sometimes it's handy to be able to reverse or review an old commit
21:47 #navit: < bafplus> cant you merge the 2?
21:48 #navit: < bafplus> other question...whats the max filesize on drone.io?
21:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> i tried to merge the two, but i had some conflicts, i managed to solve them but then i got 11000 commits in the history instead of the 5500 :)
21:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> max filesize for what ? an artifact ?
21:49 #navit: < bafplus> i'm preparing a setup-exe to deploy to our engeneers, preferbly with the benlux map included in the setup...is that possible? I mean, is a 1,3GB bin file possible/allowed?
21:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmmm
21:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> i don't think that packaging the map with the app is a good idea
21:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> *maybe* we can do that as a part of the installer instead ?
21:50 #navit: < bafplus> some sort of mapselector and download map during setup?
21:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://nsis.sourceforge.net/NSISdl_plug-in
21:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> it would be great if you could investigate this
21:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> this could be super useful for every windows user
21:52 #navit: < bafplus> Sure, i'm willing to help with that but i would prefer that the downloadfunction is in navit intself, then you can also use that same function to update the map lateron
21:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> agreed, but this will take longer
21:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> and having the map download in the app will make it work for other platforms too
21:53 #navit: < bafplus> my "boss" has one consern with downloading the map. All our engeneers are using GPRS, we have a 550mb monthly cap, u can imagine what would happen if someone forgot to switch to lan/wifi ;-)
21:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmmm
21:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> i really don't believe that a 1.3GB installer is a good idea
21:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> it will be a pain to build, diff, maintain
21:55 #navit: < bafplus> current idea is give the engeneers a usb stick with the setup file and a seperate bin file with instructions to put that in the map fiolder after installation
21:55 #navit: < bafplus> i agree on that...
21:55 #navit: < bafplus> even tho we are engeneers, you have to treet them as "stupid" ;-)
21:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha. but i agree, it has to be a simple as possible
21:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's better for everyone
21:56 #navit: < bafplus> afk for a while...but i would love to dive in that downloadfunction
21:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> sure ping me
21:57 #navit: < bafplus> lets say i want to change the "name" of navit to say navit-cruiser (so exe and foldernames should be navit-cruiser instead of Navit) is that all controlled in one file and is it "just a matter" of changing some names/variables?
21:58 #navit: < bafplus> not going to have much time today...have to start 2 hours eurlier then normal this week...so that means less "coding time" in the evening ;-)
21:59 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus what if you give them usb stick with portable navit. You can add to its map folder anything you want.
21:59 #navit: < bafplus> with the risk that an engeneer loses the usb drive or breaks it (also one of my "boss" conserns ;-) )
21:59 #navit: < bafplus> so running from HD is prefered
22:01 #navit: < bafplus> and it is portable as it is now, you just have to copy the navit folder anywere on youre HD and it runs, but to keep everyones install exactly the same, one prefers the 1-file installer all with same installfolder
22:01 #navit: < bafplus> afk now...
22:03 #navit: < tryagain> map file coud be copied to the known place with one click. You'll need a .bat file consisting of 'copy f:\navit\map.bin "c:\program files\navit\maps\"'
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22:04 #navit: < tryagain> same bat file could be used to run the installer
22:05 #navit: < tryagain> so everyting will go in one click, and you don't have to change installer each time you update the map
22:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha right volumes mount point in windows. such a pain
22:05 #navit: < bafplus> hmm...havent thaught of that...would be great is the installation path is pulled from the setup so the installationpath is still "flexible"
22:07 #navit: < tryagain> hm, do you want flexible or exactly the same? ;)
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22:09 #navit: < tryagain> We are going to run the bat fle from the installation media. So mount point could be deducted from bat file path.
22:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> tryagain: i meant otherwise it could be done from the installer itself
22:16 #navit: < bafplus> i ment that you are not fixed to 1 installation-path
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23:14 #navit: < bafplus> hmm...strange...changed and commited on github with some huge changes, triggered a build on droid.io but changes doesent seem to be included in the new build...
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