--- Log opened Tue Jan 06 00:00:49 2015 02:09 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.132] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has joined #navit 02:21 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 02:26 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has joined #navit 02:26 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 02:39 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:40 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has joined #navit 02:40 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 02:47 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:47 -!- KaZeR_ [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has joined #navit 03:09 -!- KaZeR_ [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:10 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has joined #navit 03:10 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 03:10 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:11 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has joined #navit 03:11 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 03:27 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:30 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 06:05 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@75.144.20.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:10 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:30 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 06:30 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 06:35 -!- jandegr_ [5bb550d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.181.80.210] has joined #navit 07:09 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@46-30-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 07:28 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1CC4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 07:49 -!- woglinde [~henning@fb-n15-11.unbelievable-machine.net] has joined #navit 07:55 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:55 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 07:55 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 08:00 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:14 -!- jandegr_ [5bb550d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.181.80.210] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:16 -!- xenos1984_ [~quassel@46-30-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 13:18 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@46-30-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:44 -!- woglinde [~henning@fb-n15-11.unbelievable-machine.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:25 -!- woglinde [~henning@ip5b41c286.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #navit 15:48 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1CC4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:07 -!- jandegr_ [5bb550d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.181.80.210] has joined #navit 17:04 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.132] has joined #navit 17:04 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 17:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there 17:09 #navit: < woglinde> hi kazer 17:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> happy new year woglinde 17:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr_: i figured out the confusion about the exit indicator : it is spoker, but not displayed in ${navigation.item[1].street_name_systematic} ${navigation.item[1].street_name} 17:11 #navit: < woglinde> kazer to you too 17:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> woglinde: i've been road testing highfive and it's quite awesome :) 17:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> also, it would be useful to announce the systematic name too in the spoken instructions, because here highways sometimes have 'nicknames', but the nicknames or not indicated on the big signs when you have a split. 17:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you look at this map : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/37.7312/-122.4053 17:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> coming on i101, going north 17:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> navit will say "stay on your left on james freeway" and the signs will not reflect this so this can lead to an incorrect understanding : https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7642178,-122.4049009,3a,75y,5.26h,90.72t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sbvfjpJEdF2wi7i0u270nAg!2e0 17:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> woglinde: would you like me to open tickets with the possible improvements i found? 17:22 #navit: < jandegr_> hi 17:24 #navit: < jandegr_> kazer exit_ref and exit_label are seperate attr's since a while , now you seem to want them available back in the OSD ? 17:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr_: maybe we just need to add a new variable to navigation that would be built depending of the context. displaying the next item as "${navigation.item[1].street_name_systematic} ${navigation.item[1].street_name} ${navigation.item[1].exit_ref} ${navigation.item[1].exit_label}" is painful, and the ordering could be different depending upon the language and culture 17:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> so i'd advocate for a new, translatable item : _("%s%s%s%s") with a comment for the translators, as we do for the left/right instructions. what do you think of this ? 17:30 #navit: < jandegr_> now you are mixing up OSD and translatable speech ? 17:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> why not? :) 17:31 #navit: < jandegr_> now I am lost 17:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> if we build a navigation.next_item from the navigation, we can display it in the OSD 17:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> also i spotted a missing instruction : https://github.com/pgrandin/geojson-test/blob/master/highfive_sfo.geojson 17:32 #navit: < woglinde> kazer sure we need more tickets 17:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> woglinde: ok. i can create a highfive component to easily keep track of them 17:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you look at https://github.com/pgrandin/geojson-test/blob/master/highfive_sfo.geojson, and zoom on the upper right part, the first instruction should be in 13 kilometers keep right 17:33 #navit: < jandegr_> you want it as it was before ? the nav itm's gave exit_ref and exit_label if available and otherwise name and name_systematic of the next road ? 17:35 #navit: < jandegr_> but then you had no clear sight on it that is was an exit 17:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> navit meant keep right on the i80 i guess, but there is a split towards i580 even more on the right : https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8253242,-122.304029,3a,75y,86.71h,83.12t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s-eXizAUOlL3UZzDj2F0l3g!2e0 17:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr_: i can probably try to have a look at this myself, since i can't explain it properly :) 17:37 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1CC4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 17:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> new component : http://trac.navit-project.org/query?status=!closed&component=navigation%2Fhighfive 17:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> first ticket :) http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1280 17:54 #navit: < jandegr_> I seem to own things now ? 17:54 #navit: < jandegr_> :) 17:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> :) 17:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you're not comfortable with this, just let me know. you're just more active on trac than mvglasow, so... 17:55 #navit: < jandegr_> np 18:00 #navit: < jandegr_> kazer did you translate 'keep left' into stay on your left ? 18:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh. i did not check the log, the announcement is what i remember, maybe it's not accurate 18:04 #navit: < jandegr_> and was that with yesterday's email version ? 18:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> it was actually with the 'christmas edition' i believe. i did the update after this trip iirc 18:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> should this one be fixed using the latest version? i can double check 18:09 #navit: < jandegr_> christmas is so long ago 18:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> indeed :) 18:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> but the geojson i posted was generated using new year's version so i think this is still valid :) 18:49 #navit: < jandegr_> on 8b it can say 'smth right towards I580 East' but on exit 9 it can only say 'smth right towards Powell street or emeryville', so skipping exit 9 is stay on I580 West 19:18 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:8108:28bf:fc94::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:18 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:8108:28bf:fc94::1] has joined #navit 19:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> exit 9 is fine iirc, the confusion is really about 8b, because if you do stay right and end up on i580 that's quite a detour 20:18 -!- jandegr_ [5bb550d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.181.80.210] has left #navit [] 20:28 -!- woglinde [~henning@ip5b41c286.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:08 -!- mlechner [~mlechner@p54BAA1AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 21:22 -!- mlechner [~mlechner@p54BAA1AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:11 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1CC4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 23:21 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: curious, j_f-f, rah, @Horwitz 23:21 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ColdFyre, Number6 23:21 -!- rah [rah@verain.settrans.net] has joined #navit 23:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Number6 23:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: curious 23:22 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-50-152-170-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 23:56 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@orion2589.server4you.de] has joined #navit 23:57 -!- Horwitz [mich1@baldrian.franken.de] has joined #navit 23:57 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ --- Log closed Wed Jan 07 00:00:48 2015