--- Log opened Tue Jan 20 00:00:51 2015 01:50 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.132] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:08 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:08 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has joined #navit 08:33 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1DC17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 08:47 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1DC17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:10 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1DC17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 10:45 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1DC17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:27 -!- jandegr_ [5bb550d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.181.80.210] has joined #navit 15:58 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 15:58 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 16:25 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@46-30-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 17:12 -!- Ayelis [~SM@38.104.105.146] has joined #navit 17:16 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:29 -!- Ayelis [~SM@38.104.105.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:42 -!- Ayelis [~SM@38.104.105.146] has joined #navit 17:53 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.45] has joined #navit 18:42 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:42 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 18:43 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 18:48 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:10 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has joined #navit 19:22 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1DC17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 20:09 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 20:09 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 20:12 -!- KaZeR_ [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 20:13 -!- drlizau [~liz@billiau.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:43 #navit: < _rd> Does anybody know if I can build the android version without a keystore? 20:46 #navit: < jandegr_> _rd : yes 20:48 #navit: < _rd> can you tell how that works? 20:48 #navit: < _rd> i.e. where do I have the specify the option to build w/o keystore? 20:49 #navit: < jandegr_> _rd I can get you a script that does all for you, run script, that's all, it does all the dependencies, path exports, svn fetch , sdk fetch, ndk fethc all for you while you look :) 20:51 #navit: < jandegr_> or if you want to do it manually, there's nothing to specify either to not use a keystore, at least if it's for your own use 20:51 #navit: < _rd> I should have all the stuff already (and I build successfully, but lost my keystore password). 20:52 #navit: < _rd> But the script should be ok for me to extract the information. 20:52 #navit: < _rd> Do you want to post it to pastebin? 20:52 #navit: < jandegr_> lost keystore = lost forever, there's no script to recover anything 20:53 #navit: < jandegr_> you're building for redistribution ? 20:53 #navit: < _rd> Therefore I though I could build w/o keystore (I understood keystores main usecase is to upload to google play). 20:53 #navit: < _rd> No just for me myself 20:53 #navit: < jandegr_> then you don't need keys at all 20:54 #navit: < tryagain> actually you always use at least debug key. But you may change it at your will. 20:55 #navit: < tryagain> Only prolem with changed key is inability to upgrade, you'll have to uninstall and then install as a new apk. You will lose all internal info. 20:57 #navit: < jandegr_> I built numerous ones without any key, but indeed uninstall first to install a new one, but maps and navit.xml on sdcard stay available forever 20:57 #navit: < jandegr_> so it's only recent destinations and such that get lost 20:57 #navit: < _rd> the build process asks me at the end for a password..... 20:57 #navit: < _rd> ...there I am stuck 20:58 #navit: < _rd> can I delete the keystore and create a new one? 20:58 #navit: < _rd> I understand the update issues with a new key. 21:00 #navit: < tryagain> yes, the tool to use is probably keytool. but i'm unsure how to switch the default build process to a different key. 21:01 #navit: < tryagain> ah, http://developer.android.com/tools/publishing/app-signing.html#expdebug 21:04 #navit: < tryagain> _rd btw do you run "make apkg" or "make apkg-release" when it complains? 21:06 #navit: < _rd> make apkg 21:06 #navit: < _rd> maybe I was able to create a new key..... 21:06 #navit: < _rd> ....let me try to rebuild 21:12 #navit: < _rd> Aahh... Compile your app in release mode to obtain an unsigned APK....implies that make apkg-release is not using the keystore. 21:12 #navit: < _rd> I would have expected it the other way round. 21:14 #navit: < tryagain> you are not expected to be able to install unsigned apk to unrooted device 21:22 #navit: < jandegr_> Under “Settings,” select “Application Settings” and then enable “Unknown Sources.” 21:22 #navit: < _rd> even for a rootet device I get: INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NO_CERTIFICATES 21:23 #navit: < tryagain> unknown means not google play :) 21:23 #navit: < _rd> but I can build now also signed apks.... 21:23 #navit: < tryagain> you'll have to sign it 21:23 #navit: < _rd> ...and that works again. 21:23 #navit: < _rd> Thanks a lot for your help. 21:23 #navit: < jandegr_> I installed unsigned one's on 3 different vanilla devices last week, I must be missing out on smth. 21:24 #navit: < tryagain> Are you talking about Navit_debug.apk? Then it's SIGNED with debug key. 21:24 #navit: < _rd> I did not try the "Unknown Sources".... 21:24 #navit: < _rd> ....since I can sign again. 21:25 #navit: < _rd> I installed Navit_debug.apk now. 21:25 #navit: < tryagain> i was asking jandegr_ :) 21:25 #navit: < _rd> My icons became tiny (e.g. for settings, actions, etc) 21:25 #navit: < _rd> Did something change in the past weeks? 21:26 #navit: < tryagain> yes, we have adjusted icon sizes, and wanting some feedback :) 21:26 #navit: < _rd> Also the menu bar at the top became very thin. 21:26 #navit: < jandegr_> sure, but not every homebuilder should have to go throug the signing cermony for own use and friends and family 21:26 #navit: < _rd> I am running on an Galaxy S4 21:27 #navit: < tryagain> do you have custom navit.xml? 21:27 #navit: < _rd> yes, I do 21:28 #navit: < tryagain> what if you use default one? 21:28 #navit: < tryagain> (just rename yours to hide it) 21:28 #navit: < _rd> I need to have a break for today, but I need to fix the icon size issue eventually (to get back from the menu to the map is very difficult) 21:28 #navit: < _rd> ok, I can try that. 21:30 #navit: < jandegr_> btw recently I started using : https://github.com/Todd-Werelius/Navit-Android-Build-Script/blob/master/navitBuild.sh 21:30 #navit: < _rd> The main menu size is ok again, but the menu looks broken, i.e. icons overlap 21:30 #navit: < _rd> Do you want a screenshot? 21:30 #navit: < jandegr_> just updated it a little and modified it not to build as root 21:30 #navit: < tryagain> sure, i'd like to have a screenshot 21:32 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr, make apkg actually uses a debug key, which is created on the fly, if it's missing. 21:32 #navit: < _rd> Thanks for sharing the link 21:34 -!- jandegr_ [5bb550d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.181.80.210] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:36 #navit: < _rd> http://bokomoko.de/~rd/Navit/Screenshot_2015-01-20-22-32-22.png 21:38 #navit: < tryagain> hm, icons look quite much blurred... 21:39 #navit: < tryagain> my time is out now, will attempt to reproduce S3 parameters on emulator... 21:39 #navit: < tryagain> thank you rd_ 21:39 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.45] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40 #navit: < _rd> I have an S4, not an S3 21:44 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1DC17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:02 -!- KaZeR_ [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:25 -!- xenos1984 [~quassel@46-30-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 23:31 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 23:52 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Wed Jan 21 00:00:51 2015