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14:32 #navit: < robertp> KaZeR: Hi KaZeR. I'd have some questions to your J1850-Plugin...
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16:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
16:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> sure robertp shoot!
16:14 #navit: < robertp> hi KaZeR
16:14 #navit: < robertp> i had a look on your plugin
16:14 #navit: < robertp> erm i still have
16:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: maptool in circleci Median build time: 00:02:21 :)
16:15 #navit: < robertp> you use a "comman_evaluate(&navit, "gui.spotify....")".
16:16 #navit: < robertp> where is the gui.[...] method part defined?
16:16 #navit: < jandegr> its the extremes bothering us kazer , not median :)
16:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> robertp: ha excellent question. This is actually why this code is not yet in the trunk. Instead of calling a method in the gui, we should call a proxy method in the core. should be fixed soon.
16:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> the commands are defined here : https://github.com/pgrandin/navit/blob/staging/navit/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal_command.c#L1239
16:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> and implemented here : https://github.com/pgrandin/navit/blob/staging/navit/navit/gui/internal/gui_internal_spotify.c
16:19 #navit: < robertp> ah, thanks.
16:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: yeah good point.
16:19 #navit: < robertp> next q:
16:20 #navit: < robertp> is there a way to find out if navit ist being compiled on the raspberry? the uart function wouldn't be neccessary to load on windows, android or non-embedded linux
16:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm. you can definitely "guess" at compilation time if you are on an arm platform
16:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> also for new features, what we usually do is disable them by default, and then use a cmake option to enable it when building for the right target
16:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> did you manage to import your code into git ?
16:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> robertp: this is a good answer imo : http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/754/how-can-i-detect-that-im-compiling-for-raspberry-pi
16:26 #navit: < robertp> bookmarked, thank you :D
16:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> my pleasure
16:29 #navit: < robertp> i got git and my music player (currently without navit) to work and when my first plugin does something useful, i will publish. but i think i need another kind of navit gui for my rotary encoder
16:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'd be happy to help
16:30 #navit: < robertp> yes, what a challenge...
16:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> quick question btw : are you using alsa for the audio output ?
16:32 #navit: < robertp> i'd say yes, but i'm not sure.
16:33 #navit: < robertp> why?
16:33 #navit: < robertp> yes. its 100% alsa.
16:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok just to know. Cause i'm using alsa too, so we already have some code for sound init and volume control
16:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> it will make things easier :)
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16:36 #navit: < robertp> in gui_internal_spotify: what do the media_[...] funtions?
16:38 #navit: < robertp> ok found.
16:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's part of my work towards a better organized and plugin-base audio player :)
16:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> eventually, everything related to spotify will be in its own plugin, and the core will only implement the media_* functions, proxyfing them to the active audio plugins
16:45 #navit: < robertp> how would you configure such settings? maybe one wants to switch from spotify to usb?
16:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> so my intent is to add a new plugin "class", and the active plugins at startup will register as such. Then from the menu you can list the available plugins ( just a button saying "audio source" ) and then the proxy will send generic events ( like "media_play_next_track") to the currently active plugin
16:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> so you don't need to configure the functions, you just need to provide a callback to your plugin's implementation of the command
16:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> makes sense ?
16:50 #navit: < robertp> it does
16:50 #navit: < robertp> making an interface and swap from source to source
16:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> cool
16:54 #navit: < robertp> so defining an input would be possible too? as plugin
16:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> well i don't think that we need to. Your input can just send arbitrary commands, as does the j1850 plugin
16:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> the issue with your rotary encoder is that gui_internal does not provide tabindex currently, but if we write a qml2 gui we can address that from scratch
16:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> i misunderstood your question. yes you can definitely define an input from a plugin
16:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> the thing with inputs is that you can have several of them active at the same time, as opposite to audio players
17:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> sending outputs from your encoder should be trivially easy. implementing the right behavior is the part which is a bit more difficult :)
17:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> is this part working correctly in your current prototype ?
17:05 #navit: < robertp> theoretical.
17:06 #navit: < robertp> my music player doesn't use the rotary encoder. but its signals come via uart. the encoder isn't connected directly to the pi
17:08 #navit: < robertp> the encoder just needs left, right, enter.
17:11 #navit: < robertp> if the gui can be used with only four buttons/keys everything is fine.
17:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. this probably poses a few UX challenges to make everything accessible using only 3 buttons. do you use things like long presses too ?
17:24 #navit: < robertp> not yet. but it's planned :D
17:25 #navit: < robertp> but this has to be done on the controller which reads the encoder
17:26 #navit: < robertp> it would send just another byte for long key press
17:27 #navit: < robertp> but it is not that hard to make a plugin for a directly connected rotary encoder
17:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes exactly
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18:53 #navit: < circleci-bot> Timed out: jandegr's build (#119; push) in navit-gps/navit (jandegr-maptool-europe) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/119
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