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01:15 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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12:08 #navit: < circleci-bot> No tests: pgrandin's build (#126; push) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/126
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12:15 #navit: < circleci-bot> No tests: pgrandin's build (#127; push) in navit-gps/navit (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/127
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16:00 #navit: < robertp> hi all
16:00 #navit: < robertp> i have a question:
16:01 #navit: < robertp> when i build navit from source, is any kind of speech active or not?
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19:39 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr hi
19:40 #navit: < tryagain> I was pretty sure android build is unable to handle 2G maps
19:40 #navit: < tryagain> so it was on my todo list
19:41 #navit: < jandegr> hi tryagain
19:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey guys
19:41 #navit: < tryagain> hey KaZeR
19:42 #navit: < jandegr> I'm not sure what's going on but I did use 3,5GB all along
19:42 #navit: < tryagain> what android version do you have?
19:42 #navit: < jandegr> I build with a more recent NDK or smth else ?
19:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> i did two things over the week-end : fixed svn->git sync, it seems to be reliable now. trunk@navit-gps/navit is in sync with svn. and i've setup a basic routing test framework : https://github.com/navit-gps/routing-qa
19:43 #navit: < jandegr> but I did test downloading before reporting to be sure, so I reported it
19:44 #navit: < jandegr> I have 4.2 jelly , and build with minsdk=7 targetsdk=19 and NDK10d
19:44 #navit: < jandegr> but I built with older ndk's before
19:44 #navit: < jandegr> hi kazer
19:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> tryagain: jandegr: we can probably build different binaries and setup a test for this : https://circleci.com/docs/android
19:46 #navit: < jandegr> I searched all over the web but could not find anything about a 2GB restriction for Android
19:47 #navit: < jandegr> ah kazer, we should start simple, not wipe out dutch translation when you update the store :)
19:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: which translation?
19:49 #navit: < jandegr> when you enter another what's new text in english , you overwrite the existing dutch version with an english version :(
19:49 #navit: < tryagain> thsat was me wiping translation :)
19:50 #navit: < tryagain> I have replaced english text completely, so wiped out everyting i could not translate. Sorry.
19:51 #navit: < jandegr> ok
19:51 #navit: < jandegr> sorry kazer for suspecting you :)
19:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> meh. :)
19:52 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr can you install the current version from appstore and test if it works with your big map?
19:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> this was a hotfix so we had to move fast. i'm trying to setup a better workflow where we can use launchpad or transifex for the store too
19:53 #navit: < tryagain> that would be great
19:53 #navit: < jandegr> ok, will report in a few minutes
19:56 #navit: < jandegr> icon missing in the about-info page of gui-internal, a classic
19:58 #navit: < tryagain> large file support on android is said to have some caveats http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=64613
20:00 #navit: < tryagain> and log line you were refering in ticket looks like a sign of such non-conformance, especially if large bin maps are supported
20:01 #navit: < jandegr> first test map seems ok
20:01 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr do you also have a fast solution for missing icon?
20:04 #navit: < jandegr> a quick test to build a route works with the large map as well
20:07 #navit: < jandegr> no apparent difference foe large maps
20:07 #navit: < jandegr> for large map
20:07 #navit: < tryagain> cool. I'll try test this on my HTC Wildfire S (Android 2.3.5) when the map is finished downloading.
20:14 #navit: < jandegr> did sombody ever report a map between 2 and 4GB as not working as it should ?
20:14 #navit: < jandegr> and what do you get for sizeof(off_t)=4 on your device ?
20:15 #navit: < tryagain> sizeof(off_t) is reported to be 8 on linux.
20:16 #navit: < tryagain> it's actually a compile time test. It does not depend on device you're running the code on.
20:17 #navit: < tryagain> bit if off_t is 4 bytes, fseek() is (or should be expected to be?) limited to 2G offsets.
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20:18 #navit: < tryagain> to read a zipfile, we have to seek to its end to read the header info
20:18 #navit: < tryagain> we also intensively seek when we read the file
20:18 #navit: < jandegr> I used a 3+GB map so much, I should have noticed something ?
20:19 #navit: < tryagain> yes, on incompatible system map file is just reported to be broken
20:19 #navit: < tryagain> it doesnt show any map items
20:20 #navit: < jandegr> ok, If I seem to be an exception, then I'm glad to be one :)
20:20 #navit: < tryagain> so most probably android is compatible in an incompatible way  :)
20:21 #navit: < tryagain> fseek probably supports 64bit offset while off_t is still defined to be 32bit
20:23 #navit: < jandegr> have to go now, bye
20:23 #navit: < tryagain> i think if all tests will succeed, we should keep a 4Gb-10% limitation, as it's a limit of fat fs usually found on sdcards
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20:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> tryagain: if we fix the flooded map issue, most maps are <4GB :)
20:39 #navit: < tryagain> flooded map?
20:48 #navit: < tryagain> KaZeR do you mean broken coastlines?
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20:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> tryagain: yes, the fact that if you process some smaller subsets of the maps, the grounds looks like it's flooded, all blue
20:53 #navit: < tryagain> why do you think fixing it will affect map size?
20:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> sorry i mis explained. my point was that it would make it easier to download, cause for europe for example we now have one auto-generated map per country
20:57 #navit: < tryagain> we can define any predefined rectangle chunks for download.
20:58 #navit: < tryagain> and while they are produced from planet.bin by our servers, they won't have any broken coastlines besides our planet.bin has
20:59 #navit: < tryagain> broken coastlines in planet.bin are almost always some errors in osm data
21:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> in fact i wanted to remind that we can now use circleci for map processing, storage and distribution :) but that the fact that the coastlines are broken make some of them unusable
21:00 #navit: < tryagain> though other renderers are more robust in small mistakes like river islands
21:01 #navit: < tryagain> They may be actually using some preprocessed coastlines
21:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> have you seen that btw ? https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/maptool
21:03 #navit: < tryagain> badass
21:03 #navit: < tryagain> :)
21:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha thanks
21:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> only issue is this coastline problem
21:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> (one great thing about this approach is that most countries can be processed within minutes)
21:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> and it scales..
21:17 #navit: < tryagain> but we do not support multiple maps with overlapping ways. If we cut the data into pieces, we should make sure that puzzle made of multiple maps works in the same way as a single map, regarding routing, search, etc.
21:19 #navit: < tryagain> i was thinking on your idea to use simple file server to serve map. I think we could do it. Supporting map update to current version, adding more regions to already downloaded map etc.
21:21 #navit: < tryagain> ok, i have verified with my Wildfire, file of 3+G works ok. The version of navit i had before (a year old or so) did not support that file.
21:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm. i'm not 100% sure but i thinkg that the geofabrik exports do not overlapp, so i believe that multiple generated map should be routable. i will have to check
21:22 #navit: < tryagain> s i maybe had fixed android version too when were polishing large file usage.
21:22 #navit: < tryagain> IIRC geofabrik indeed has intended overlaps, about 1 or 10 km in depth
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21:25 #navit: < tryagain> i also remember they had broken Estonian export, not covering whole country. I were contactin them, but they asked a few weeks to apply the fix. I lost my interest before they had applied the fix.
21:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. i can easily setup a test, i'll do that tomorrow
21:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> btw, here's the POC ruby code we discussed : https://github.com/pgrandin/map_updater
21:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> it works for me
21:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you want to try an estonian map :) https://circle-artifacts.com/gh/navit-gps/maptool/105/artifacts/0/tmp/circle-artifacts.IZReOji/europe-estonia.bin
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21:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> have to go afk a few
21:35 #navit: < tryagain> ok
21:40 #navit: < Navit> mdankov * r6036 /trunk/navit/navit/android/src/org/navitproject/navit/NavitDownloadSelectMapActivity.java: Fix:port_android:Increase limit of downloadable maps to 3.8Gb. Related to #1289. http://sourceforge.net/p/navit/code/6036/
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21:56 #navit: < circleci-bot> No tests: pgrandin's build (#128; push) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/128
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22:02 #navit: < circleci-bot> Fixed: build (#129; configuration change by pgrandin) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/129
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22:02 #navit: < circleci-bot> Fixed: pgrandin's build (#130; push) in navit-gps/navit (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/130
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