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07:07 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: jandegr's build (#295; push) in navit-gps/navit (H5-followup) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/295
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13:07 #navit: < marjan> tryagain> After few days I tried with alogcat and alogrec. But (almost) nothing logs when I tried to open map window. I tried with adb, adb devices, but unfortunately I can not list my device. But this works when I atached Galaxy S2. I tried to enable log feature in navit.xml on "yes", and set all possible <debug name="*" to dbg_level="debug" and level="3", but I do not know where this log sould be stored after navit session. I looked o
13:10 #navit: < marjan> ...  file debug* with TotalCommander, but find nothing. Then I uninstaled navit application, to install new from Google Play, and then I noticed News:
13:10 #navit: < marjan> "This release addresses problems discovered in recently published release, related to map download dialog, which was completely broken on Android 5.0 Lollipop."
13:11 #navit: < marjan> But I have Kit kat 4.4.4. On 4.4.4 should this be working? Can you tell me what I am doing wrong or code in this version is not as it should be...
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15:44 #navit: < gernot_> addendum for "Resume dont work after suspend opentom tt one xl"
15:46 #navit: < gernot_> Resume work after the device is one time after boot resumed with 5V supply applied. A PC-USB connection dont work.
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17:15 #navit: < tryagain> gernot_ if you want make your information usable by others, who hit similar problems, it's worth adding your information somewhere in our wiki, good candidate seem to be  http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/TomTom
17:17 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr your change looks almost like i was thinking, but i do not understand your removal of lines 146-156 with https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/commit/9da3ade8495ab8bc34c8ccaecbf0d9cb4014a48e.
17:18 #navit: < tryagain> i thought we have no |female suffixes announced because code in navigation_item_destination()  handles them correctly
17:18 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain I will be back in 10 minutes with a lengthy explanation
17:18 #navit: < tryagain> ok
17:19 #navit: < tryagain> if some translations benefit from having that information, we could keep it
17:23 #navit: < tryagain> Russian is much more complex in this sense, and gender information itself makes no sense.
17:24 #navit: < tryagain> To correctly translate the phrase "turn into Kommunisticheskaya ulitsa" you'll have to change endings in both words (ulitsa is street).
17:25 #navit: < tryagain> For other names, like "ulitsa Lenina", only "ulitsa" will change.
17:28 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain the old code used to say 'turn right into the street bakerstreet' see #1274
17:29 #navit: < tryagain> marjan do you have "USB debugging" enabled in your system settings? It's required for adb to work. Also, it might make sense to reboot your PC (or issue killall adb if you're under linux) when you attach a different device.
17:29 #navit: < jandegr> but we could shorten that sentence with an entry '{"street", NULL, masculine},' even if we did not care for gender, but just to shorten the sentence
17:29 #navit: < jandegr> at some point in time somebody made the new navigation.c say the short version by default
17:30 #navit: < jandegr> so the entries we had for dutch and english just to shorten some sentences are not relevant anymore
17:30 #navit: < tryagain> ah, i see
17:31 #navit: < jandegr> and the gender stuff did not work for english since we don't have an english translation
17:32 #navit: < tryagain> thank you for an explanation, i've got it
17:35 #navit: < tryagain> marjan actual logs are stored in the android system journal, you should see them with adb log and programs like alogcat. On other OSes, navit writes debug to a file (windows) or to stderr (linux)
17:35 #navit: < jandegr> and even for the languages that need this gender stuff, it is not working as it should because of overlap between languages
17:36 #navit: < jandegr> we had several such samples of overlap, french avenue and english avenue, dutch' weg ' and german 'weg' and so on
17:37 #navit: < tryagain> yeah. linguistics is quite complex thing. Especially if you do not have any clue which language do you work with :)
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17:38 #navit: < jandegr> correct, and even with the more simple stuff we can use help from some linguistic persons, they don't have to be coders :)
17:39 #navit: < jandegr> but the quick fix I suggested would solve 1301 untill we have that linguistic input , at least I suppose so
17:43 #navit: < tryagain> if we do not have that feedback, i think we could apply the change after a few days.
17:43 #navit: < tryagain> marjan The issue we were addressing in the release you're asking about is known to appear only on Android 5.0. It is probably related to switch to ART java VM from Dalvik one used in earlier Android versions.
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