--- Log opened Sat Jul 18 00:00:38 2015 01:19 -!- gernot_ [54b573bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.181.115.191] has joined #navit 01:19 #navit: < gernot_> hi 01:30 #navit: < gernot_> In this nmea log navit loose track. The gps position is ok. I think the tracking code fail here. 01:31 #navit: < gernot_> http://pastebin.com/9Z3Uzy5v routing target is 84539 Ampfing 01:33 #navit: < gernot_> I tested with debian 7 (svn0.5.0) and opentom with actual svn 01:34 #navit: < gernot_> be back evening. 01:34 #navit: < gernot_> ,y 01:34 #navit: < gernot_> mb 01:34 #navit: < gernot_> by 01:35 -!- gernot_ [54b573bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.181.115.191] has quit [] 02:13 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 03:09 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-91-64-165.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 03:09 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: Robotaxi's build (#335; push) in navit-gps/navit (Robotaxi) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/335 03:09 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-91-64-165.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 03:10 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:12 -!- gernot_ [54b573bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.181.115.191] has joined #navit 03:13 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: With my 32MB TomTom i have also this long "lag" 03:14 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: opentom use file:/var/run/gpspipe as source. 03:15 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: special if i leave the track navit blocks while recalulating the route. After this all obsolete recommends are spoken. 03:16 #navit: < gernot_> after 10 old messages and some minutes navit is sync again. 03:20 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: I think all gps locations older e.g. ~5 seconds shold be dropped at reading. Reference time could be the last recived time. 03:24 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: reference time shold be taken also from dropped positions. Not using this positions braek the test use of old nema logs as source. 03:32 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: Navit wok well with a bana pi 03:32 #navit: < gernot_> banana pi.. 03:41 -!- gernot_ [54b573bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.181.115.191] has quit [] 03:44 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 04:12 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:12 #navit: < rcorello> gernot_: mind trying this patch against the lag? https://github.com/greg42/navit/commit/7f4a02322ddc408b9c716594f4631ca3fef24468 04:28 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 04:56 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:02 #navit: < rcorello> test drive time :) 05:09 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 05:24 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:33 -!- gernot_ [54b573bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.181.115.191] has joined #navit 05:36 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: sorry, i can't use gpsd. I try to use somthing like for file:/ source. 05:46 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 05:58 #navit: < gernot_> I try something , but the used code for file source is complicated. File is read in blocks and then split. 05:59 #navit: < gernot_> It handle com,pipe and file. I make a test and come back at evening. 06:00 -!- gernot_ [54b573bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.181.115.191] has quit [] 06:11 #navit: < rcorello> gernot_: oh i see. 07:03 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:14 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 09:20 -!- _rd [~rd@p4FD1E2D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:20 -!- gernot_ [54b573bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.181.115.191] has joined #navit 10:23 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: my quick test ( increase buffer to 10k and use only the last received coordinate in buffer) against the lag worked. 10:25 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: now i think how to make it clean without breaking playback of real log files. 10:26 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: navit have a "pipe" datasource, to differ pipe and file, but pipe:/ give a permission deny message in my setup. 10:29 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: pipe use the last telegram by default but use the same 1024 Byte Buffer by default. 10:30 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: think about repairing pipe in my setup and drop any buffer containing more then one position..... 10:32 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: b.t.w. The lag is smaller, only one obsolete announce. 10:39 -!- jandegr [4dcb2596@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.203.37.150] has joined #navit 10:51 -!- jandegr [4dcb2596@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.203.37.150] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:54 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello: pipe is not what i thought. it call a executable and pipes stdout... 12:27 #navit: < gernot_> first test to solve the lag problem for file:/ input http://pastebin.com/xad0aHGq 12:31 #navit: < gernot_> i'm not happy with it, but now i can test if driving own routes work better. Replaying files work. I dont know how much user use file: to read gps live. 12:46 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 13:33 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello:There is a other workaround without patching navit, but it skip only few positions (2 of 3). source="pipe:cat /var/run/gpspipe" 13:35 #navit: < gernot_> rcorello:now i test the stability....driving sunday 13:44 #navit: < gernot_> now for the "skip road problem..." 13:45 #navit: < gernot_> at the "skip" location i have only 1.000000 13:46 #navit: < gernot_> the gps location is exact between track and a near parallel street. 13:47 #navit: < gernot_> most other time i have hdop 3 or 5. 13:47 #navit: < gernot_> Maybe this force the skipping propensity. 13:49 #navit: < gernot_> Who know where hdop is used? I failed with grep ... 14:39 -!- JoaoPi [~JoaoPi@bl7-200-176.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #navit 14:40 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-71-231-174-131.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:41 #navit: < JoaoPi> Hi, I have updated the Portuguese translation after seeing weird translation issues in the Debian 8 package... 14:41 #navit: < JoaoPi> I changed some of the wording in order to use more common words or to play nicely in more cases 14:41 #navit: < JoaoPi> I'm compiling Navit each time to make sure it all fits OK 14:42 #navit: < JoaoPi> Some situations may not be the best but nobody has touched this translation in 1,5 years... 14:51 #navit: < JoaoPi> P.S. I'm using what I assume to be the (semi-)official GitHub repository since SourceForge is having issues since like ever 14:52 #navit: < JoaoPi> This one: https://github.com/navit-gps/navit 14:52 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-71-231-174-131.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #navit 15:01 -!- JoaoPi [~JoaoPi@bl7-200-176.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:40 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 15:40 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 16:24 -!- mvglasow [5d86c037@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.134.192.55] has joined #navit 16:24 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZer: translations are ready, can you give me a quick pointer to importing the .po.in files into Launchpad? 16:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> sure. 16:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> just rename the .po.in as .po and upload it :) 16:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> it should be enough 16:25 #navit: < gernot_> hi 16:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi gernot_ 16:26 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR i'm on the skip problem 16:29 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: if i change this->route_perf=300 to 3000 i come through the haag sample 16:29 #navit: < mvglasow> ah, I've found the upload link, I'll give it a try. Thanks! 16:30 #navit: < gernot_> in tracking.c , tracking_new 16:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> np mvglasow let me know when it's done and i'll push the updates to the trunk. or i'll share my script to do it and you can do it yourself :) 16:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> gernot_: mmm interesting. i don't know what this value is doing, i'll need to check 16:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> did you chat with rcorello lately? i've seen a patch in his github to make the hdop setting configurable 16:31 #navit: < gernot_> This value is a penalty for ways except route (i think) 16:33 #navit: < gernot_> used in the function tracking_value 16:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. i would be cautious by tweaking that, because it can have the side effect of having navit making you stick on the wrong road if the first position is incorrect :) 16:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> we probably need to run some tests. if you can share some trip logs we can automated that and experiment with different settings 16:34 #navit: < gernot_> I tried it. 16:35 #navit: < gernot_> yes, i record some trips. then we see the problems. 16:37 #navit: < gernot_> skipping back from wrong to right route takes 2 seconds longer then without the change. 16:38 #navit: < gernot_> I think also that the original 300 is only a default value. There is a function to change it online, but i dont know how this work 16:41 #navit: < gernot_> tracking_set_attr_to can change the value live 16:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok cool 16:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> "skipping back from wrong to right route takes 2 seconds longer then without the change." 16:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> you mean that the routing takes 2 seconds more ? 16:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> the calculation ? 16:46 #navit: < gernot_> No, if you drive 2 parallel ways the vehicle skip from wrong to right after one way changes direction. This skip come 2 secondes later 16:46 #navit: < gernot_> nothing else happen 16:46 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZeR: still uploading, I'll drop you a line when I'm done. Currently at 'sw'... 16:50 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZeR translations are uploaded, you can push them to trunk (or share your script) 16:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> mvglasow: ok let me have a look 16:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> mvglasow: did you upload all the translations on purpose? 16:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> we need to review them now : https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/+imports 16:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> gernot_: i'm not sure i understand what you mean. do you have an example ? a screenshot maybe ? 16:54 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZeR I uploaded the whole bunch because I updated most of them as part of H5 – except those that use scripts other than Latin/Greek/Cyrillic and those that didn't have existing strings that I could build on 16:54 #navit: < mvglasow> thus the majority of translation files will have actual updates 16:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok makes sense 16:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok looks like we won't be able to updated them in svn right now anyway, sourceforge is still down 17:00 #navit: < mvglasow> yea, at least it gave me a reason to switch to the official git repo :-) 17:02 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: the skip position iv vehicle is on the wrong way ... home.arcor.de/g.fink/tmp.gif 17:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> mvglasow: :) i'm planning on sending an poll on switching to git + github to all the devs 17:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> so gernot_ in your example, in your logs with 300 you would jump to "Sonnenfeld" but with 3000 you won 17:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> you won't? correct ? 17:06 #navit: < gernot_> yes 17:07 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZeR can I just commit the updated .po.in files (the ones I uploaded) to git master? will that work? 17:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. my concern is that if you do switch to Sonnenfeld, on purpose, then it will delay the proper re-routing 17:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> mvglasow: we should avoid committing to master, as currently it should only be a merge from trunk if the CI tests passed 17:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> maybe we should rename it to stable :) 17:08 #navit: < gernot_> For now without real test it is better. 17:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> gernot_: would having this parameter configurable in navit.xml be sufficient for now? i'm not comfortable adjusting this value without more tests 17:10 #navit: < gernot_> On close parallel ways navit jump never back, not with 300 nor 3000. After the ways differ it is a thing of seconds.. 17:11 #navit: < gernot_> Yes, we need test. But there is a function to configure this from user level. 17:11 #navit: < gernot_> i think 17:13 #navit: < gernot_> in the documentation is a function like osd_set_attr, but no tracking_set_attr. But in the code tracking_set_attr() exist. 17:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok we can probably address that easily 17:26 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZeR the translation files failed to import (with one exception), the error message is "File was not exported from Launchpad." 17:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm 17:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's odd 17:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'll have a look at the headers 17:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> the po.in files are currently in your repo? the ones you tried to upload ? 17:34 #navit: < mvglasow> they're in my repo as uncommitted changes 17:34 #navit: < mvglasow> but I've successfully built navit with them 17:39 #navit: < gernot_> tomorrow test... 17:39 #navit: < gernot_> good night 17:39 -!- gernot_ [54b573bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.181.115.191] has quit [] 17:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> mvglasow: can you please share them? i'll look into the issue 17:46 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZeR: I think I've found it: ru.po is the only one that works, and it's the only one that has a X-Launchpad-Export-Date tag in its header 17:47 #navit: < mvglasow> so apparently the other ones are getting rejected because they're missing that header 17:47 #navit: < mvglasow> I'll export the current translations, merge them with what I have so far and re-import them 17:48 #navit: < mvglasow> I'll let you know when I'm done, but that might not be until tomorrow 17:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok thanks 18:30 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:56 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZeR: new translations are up 19:37 -!- mvglasow [5d86c037@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.134.192.55] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:43 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:44 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 19:44 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 19:49 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:19 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 20:19 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 21:18 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 21:31 -!- redurgam is now known as magruder 22:25 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 23:44 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 23:44 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 23:49 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] --- Log closed Sun Jul 19 00:00:40 2015