--- Log opened Mon Aug 10 00:00:13 2015 00:46 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-71-231-174-131.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:49 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-71-231-174-131.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #navit 01:30 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 01:46 -!- jandegr [57417c72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.65.124.114] has joined #navit 02:43 -!- jandegr [57417c72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.65.124.114] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:17 -!- robertp [bc5c2133@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.92.33.51] has joined #navit 03:29 -!- juse [~juse@b738.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #navit 03:29 #navit: < juse> ok I'm back from my holiday ! :) 03:40 -!- jonathanmaw [~jonathanm@82-70-136-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #navit 03:43 -!- juse [~juse@b738.ip16.netikka.fi] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 04:13 -!- juse [~juse@b738.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #navit 04:29 #navit: < juse> just updated to Win10 on my dell XPS 13 04:29 #navit: < juse> gotta say I like this 04:29 #navit: < juse> a lot 04:36 #navit: < robertp> i did it on July 29th, :D Exceot a bluescreen after every login it is very nice. 04:36 #navit: < robertp> except. 04:41 #navit: < juse> oh 04:41 #navit: < juse> I've heard about issues 04:41 #navit: < juse> but still none on my machine 04:43 #navit: < robertp> the issue was resolved on the internet, so i just had to be fast after login and switch to safe mode to unindtsll the graphics driver. after its reinstall everything works fine now. 04:44 #navit: < robertp> now a navit question: does the compiler expect c or cpp stuff? 04:45 #navit: < robertp> im just going into cmake theory... 07:44 -!- robertp [bc5c2133@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.92.33.51] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:44 -!- robertp [bc5c2133@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.92.33.51] has joined #navit 07:46 -!- jandegr [57417c72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.65.124.114] has joined #navit 07:51 #navit: < robertp> hi all. 07:51 #navit: < robertp> where should i get icons from? is there a best practice? 08:36 -!- robertp [bc5c2133@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.92.33.51] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:37 -!- jandegr [57417c72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.65.124.114] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:11 -!- robertp [bc5c2133@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.92.33.51] has joined #navit 09:12 -!- robertp [bc5c2133@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.92.33.51] has quit [Client Quit] 09:51 -!- carboncanyon [18f51b89@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.245.27.137] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:40 -!- juse [~juse@b738.ip16.netikka.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:01 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02 -!- jandegr [57417c72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.65.124.114] has joined #navit 12:11 -!- jonathanmaw [~jonathanm@82-70-136-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:21 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.132] has joined #navit 12:22 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ 13:03 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-242-157-170.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 13:03 #navit: < circleci-bot> Failed: jandegr's build (#89; push) in navit-gps/routing-qa (roundabout-exit) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/routing-qa/89 13:03 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-242-157-170.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:18 -!- robertp [b0042644@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.4.38.68] has joined #navit 13:19 #navit: < robertp> hi 13:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi robertp 13:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> robertp: your media player controls mpc but does not do any mp3 playback itself, correct ? ( i haven't read it all yet ) 13:27 #navit: < robertp> yes i call mpc via system(...) 13:27 #navit: < robertp> good for me an my pi2. so one other core is busy too. :D 13:28 #navit: < robertp> but it handles the playlists and their structure. 13:29 #navit: < robertp> why are you asking? 13:29 #navit: < robertp> brb 13:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm asking for two reasons : 1) i'm considering adding mp3 capabilities directly in navit, for the guidance part. if you had code already available it would have saved me some time :) 13:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> 2) if your module only drives mpc ( which is fine ) i think it would be better to rename it 13:33 -!- robertp [b0042644@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.4.38.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:46 -!- robertp [b0042644@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.4.38.68] has joined #navit 13:49 #navit: < robertp> i messed it a bit up, i think 13:50 #navit: < robertp> in master branch it is named mp3player and in trunk its mpd 13:50 #navit: < robertp> so renaming is done 13:51 #navit: < robertp> but master doesnt work anyway 14:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> it's not mandatory to have a master branch in your own repo 14:09 #navit: < robertp> i think i understood the branch-thing and now use trunk 14:10 #navit: < robertp> we could use mpg123 for audio playback and use it for my player and the navit audio. it seems portable and gpl 14:11 #navit: < robertp> is it possible to use a background picture in navit gui? 14:20 -!- robertp [b0042644@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.4.38.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm using mpg123 for my guidance. the idea of adding mp3 capabilities was actually to get rid of mpg123 to simplify the audio mixing process ( lower the music volume when navit speaks ) 14:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> i don't think that it's possible to use a background picture in gui_internal. but maybe you can help me designing a qt5/qml2 gui, and then it will be a whole different experience :) 15:07 -!- robertp [584aaf83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.74.175.131] has joined #navit 15:11 #navit: < robertp> KaZeR: Which way would you like to go for mp3 capabilities? 15:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm still trying to think what would be the best approach. currently, the spotify code sends the audio stream directly to an alsa PCM. When we need a guidance announcement, i have a script that lowers this PCM by 10% then triggers mpg123 to play the mp3 with the announcement, then raise the PCM back by 10% 15:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> it works, but it has some quirks 15:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> i've been talking with some alsa guys and it looks like maybe it would be easy to do the volume change on the music part from the spotify code itself. so it would solve my use case. but not yours 15:19 #navit: < robertp> mpc knows volume-settings as well. lowering the volume with a callback or similar would work the same way 15:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok cool 15:31 #navit: < robertp> i think adding mp3 capabilities to navit directly will stop the playback, when navit is calculating a new route. so it might be better to let a diffreren process play the music 15:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> depends if it's threaded or not. spotify does not stop for example. on the other hand we should leverage external tools as much as we can. using mpd is a great idea 15:47 #navit: < robertp> is spotify integrated in the navit process or is it using sub processes for playback? 15:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> the playback is in a different thread. there is a callback that gets called when new datas are available from the stream, and push it to the audio queue 15:53 #navit: < robertp> ok. the volume stuff is handled by the audio.c/h files, which are brought with the spotify code? 15:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> the volume stuff is currently handled in my speech script, but i think it would be better to have a callback in navit before calling the speech 15:54 #navit: < robertp> and after 16:32 -!- robertp [584aaf83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.74.175.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:33 -!- jandegr [57417c72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.65.124.114] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:47 -!- robertp [584aaf83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.74.175.131] has joined #navit 16:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes exactly 16:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> if one works, the other will be easy :) 17:15 -!- juse [~juse@b738.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #navit 17:16 #navit: < juse> ah back 17:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey juse 17:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> welcome back 17:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> i had a look at position interpolation this week-end 17:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> there's an extra something we need to do : filter heading jittering. otherwise the map tends to rotate slightly on each update, and it's really not pretty 17:24 #navit: < juse> I think it is, or can it rotate freely? Or is it gridded to 5 or so degrees? 17:25 #navit: < juse> or I dont know to be honest, how does android (google) navigation work here? 17:27 #navit: < juse> oh Kazer you are right 17:29 #navit: < juse> it should have like 10 degree threshold before rotating 17:30 #navit: < juse> or I don't know... then if you drive a road that has slight turns right and left it would still look funny :D 17:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah, or i was also considering doing the rotation progressively ( e.g. 2-3 degree for each frame refresh) 17:31 #navit: < juse> or could it be done like every 3 seconds ? 17:31 #navit: < juse> or 2 17:31 #navit: < juse> but you get the smooth FPS working? :) 17:31 -!- robertp [584aaf83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.74.175.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:32 #navit: < juse> got * 17:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> well i hacked the demo vehicle to test it quickly and see how the UI would behave. the answer is that we need to improve more than just the vehicle :) 17:34 #navit: < juse> :D 17:34 #navit: < juse> haha, great! 17:34 #navit: < juse> you know making the project is more fun than actually enjoying the work 17:35 #navit: < juse> the work you've done 17:36 #navit: < juse> emmm but it seems like most of the navi softwares just refresh it with a static refresh rate. Let's say 2 seconds. 17:36 #navit: < juse> and when using android GPS it seems to stick like you described navit does ATM with your hack :) 17:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> well, that's a good sign :) 17:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> but indeed i spend more time working on navit and the setup in my car than actually using it :) 17:52 #navit: < juse> yep 17:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> btw : i'd like to showcase some users's setups. your setup is really clean. do you think we could work together on a clean video ? something that we could put on the website ? 17:53 #navit: < juse> yes! 17:53 #navit: < juse> sure man 17:54 #navit: < juse> what do you want to be included in the video? 17:56 #navit: < juse> my brother has a nice camera in his LG G3 17:56 #navit: < juse> I think it would work out pretty well 18:00 #navit: < juse> kazer feel free to query me or message here, I'll go to sleep but will leave PC on, good night 18:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> juse: cool. let's chat whenever you have some time. the idea is to get something that would showcase nice integrations of navit, like yours. if possible using a tripod or gimbal of some sort to avoid shakiness, and some proper editing 18:20 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@227.246.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:22 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@101.67.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 19:46 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> juse: are you good at math? 20:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> https://github.com/lacker/ikalman 21:14 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@64.201.252.132] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36 -!- KaZeR [~KaZeR@c-67-161-64-186.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #navit 21:36 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ --- Log closed Tue Aug 11 00:00:14 2015