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05:05 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: i think i'm the last Navit-tomtom user ;-)
05:08 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: But i use a custom ttsystem . Without swap it is no fun.
05:10 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: I don't get contact to opentom makers for month. I fear this platform is near zombie state.
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05:33 #navit: < jawood> hi im trying to get navit to work on my raspberry pi and am in need of some help if possible
05:39 #navit: < jawood> ill five a little run down on what ive done, in the hope that someone will be able to help.
05:39 #navit: < jawood> I installed using apt-get install navit
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05:49 #navit: < jawood> sorry my internet connection just dropped out again...
05:50 #navit: < jawood> anyway i was saying that i have installed navit on my raspberry pi 2 and am in need of some help getting it going
05:50 #navit: < jawood> i used apt-get install navit -- to install
05:51 #navit: < jawood> edited /etc/navit/navit.xml and added /hone/pi/map/map1.bin and set to enabled=yes but get no map displayed when open navit
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06:28 #navit: < jawood> Hi, let me try again! Im after some help getting navit to wook on my raspberry pi 2
06:43 #navit: < jawood> ill just run down what ive done in the hope someone will be able to help me out
06:43 #navit: < jawood> Installed using apt-get install navit
06:43 #navit: < jawood> edited /etc/navit/navit.xml enable map = yes location /home/pi/map/map1.bin
06:44 #navit: < jawood> Get no map displayed all settings windows look fine just no map displayed.
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07:04 #navit: < jawood> ?
07:09 #navit: < jawood> fi:- There is no GPS connected as yet, thou i have set the start point to my LAT/LOG as per instructions in your site.
07:15 #navit: < jawood> navit center="-31.078717 152.828832"
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11:17 #navit: < gernot_> jawood: open action->town, select a town in your map then select "view on map"
11:19 #navit: < gernot_> jawood: before this enter "navit" in a console window. Watch the output for error messages about map loading.
11:20 #navit: < gernot_> jaw:ẃood: also select settings->map  and check that yout map is in the list and is active.
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11:44 #navit: < circleci-bot> Fixed: jandegr's build (#110; push) in navit-gps/routing-qa (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/routing-qa/110
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12:39 #navit: < KaZeR> hi jawood
12:42 #navit: < KaZeR> jawood: the version you are installing is probably really outdated
12:42 #navit: < KaZeR> i can help you get a newer one
12:52 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: hi
12:52 #navit: < KaZeR> hey gernot_!
12:52 #navit: < KaZeR> i'm collecting pictures of users's setups. Want to share one?
12:53 #navit: < gernot_> photo or screenshot?
12:56 #navit: < KaZeR> i'm interested in both. i want to update the screenshot gallery, and we'll use the best pictures on the new website ( wip : http://navit-gps.github.io/website/ ) and facebook.
12:56 #navit: < gernot_> I take some pictures.
12:57 #navit: < KaZeR> thanks
13:06 #navit: < gernot_> have to go
13:06 #navit: < gernot_> by
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14:34 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: Robotaxi's build (#604; auto-retry) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/604
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14:41 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: Robotaxi's build (#603; push) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/603
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14:49 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#605; push) in navit-gps/navit (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/605
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15:30 #navit: < Robotaxi> Hi KaZeR
15:30 #navit: < Robotaxi> Thanks for the flowers.
15:31 #navit: < Robotaxi> Just one word for launchpad: It´s OK, I´ll leave the po files as they are, in the future.
15:33 #navit: < Robotaxi> I read a guideline in the navit wiki, after which I shall download a po file from launchpad, change it and upload it again, before checking in the code.
15:33 #navit: < Robotaxi> Is this still up to date?
15:34 #navit: < Robotaxi> I did it as written in the guideline, btw
15:34 #navit: < KaZeR> not really. the best way is just to update the translation directly on launchpad
15:34 #navit: < KaZeR> it's almost fully automated yet, including branching
15:38 #navit: < Robotaxi> ah, ok. Is the pot file automatically updated, as well?
15:39 #navit: < KaZeR> the pot is already automatically uploaded to launchpad yeah
15:39 #navit: < KaZeR> i need to sort out a few quirks for the po but it's almost finished
15:40 #navit: < KaZeR> brb, lunch time
15:53 #navit: < Robotaxi> this is goot news for me. So it´s not worth me fiddling in the po files any more ;-)
16:22 #navit: < Robotaxi> must leave now. see you!
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16:45 #navit: < jawood> I tried using the manual install directions i found on the site but couldnt get it to work, the install would all go thru ok but when i went to run it i would get errors gkd i think
16:46 #navit: < jawood> so if you can help me get the newer version installed would be great, thanks.
16:59 #navit: < KaZeR> sure jawood
17:00 #navit: < KaZeR> jawood: check this : https://github.com/navit-gps/raspbian-ua-netinst/blob/master/build_navit.sh
17:00 #navit: < KaZeR> it allows me to install navit on top of raspbian-netinst with almost no manual intervention
17:01 #navit: < KaZeR> i will be busy for ~1h but i can help in details after that
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17:08 #navit: < jawood> cheers thanks
17:22 #navit: < jawood> when i run the first cmake command i get error cmake: command not found.
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18:11 #navit: < KaZeR> ha :)
18:11 #navit: < KaZeR> look at https://github.com/navit-gps/raspbian-ua-netinst/blob/master/installer-config.txt
18:11 #navit: < KaZeR> this is where the required packages are defined, jawood
18:12 #navit: < KaZeR> we have two main options : you can build it manually, or i can show you how to have it built automatically. it's up to you
18:21 #navit: < jawood> which ever is easiest for you i dont mind, i must admit thou i only have a basic working knowedge of linux
18:21 #navit: < jawood> but im assuming i need to install all those packages
18:29 #navit: < jawood> or do i create a txt file called installer-config.txt and copy that list into it?
18:33 #navit: < KaZeR> ok let's try the fully automated way then :)
18:33 #navit: < KaZeR> what's your desktop OS ?
18:33 #navit: < jawood> sure
18:34 #navit: < jawood> im using windows 10 and have my raspberry pi sitting on the desk in front of me ready to go
18:34 #navit: < jawood> it has a 800x480 touch screen on it HDMI
18:38 #navit: < KaZeR> ok. perfect.
18:38 #navit: < KaZeR> let's start here : https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst#writing-the-installer-to-the-sd-card
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18:45 #navit: < jawood> ok so thats a raspbian image im assuming and i write it to my sdcard with win32diskimager after downloading
18:47 #navit: < jawood> that might be a problem with my touch screen as to get the touch screen working is a bit of a pain, i do have a clean image of raspbian with my touch screen drivers installed that i created the other day, will it be easier for me to use that and do the manual install on that
18:53 #navit: < jawood> i'll try this way first and see how it goes ive copied the files to my formatted sdcard and its doing itss thing on the
18:53 #navit: < jawood> pi now
18:57 #navit: < KaZeR> what's your touchscreen exactly ? what was the issue?
18:59 #navit: < jawood> ow its a spotbear one i think but the drivers for the touch part i have to install manually as the driver cd they sent me was corrupted its all fine thou i have no probs getting it up and running once navit is installed and working
19:01 #navit: < KaZeR> ok i'm pretty sure we can figure that out, and also include it in the automated build script :)
19:03 #navit: < jawood> this is the site that has the directions on how to install my touch screen http://www.spotpear.com/learn/EN/raspberry-pi/Raspberry-Pi-LCD/Raspberry-Pi-7inch-Capacitive-LCD-UserGuide-en.html
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19:06 #navit: < KaZeR> ok, does not look too tedious
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19:08 #navit: < jawood> its not to hard, thou i have found that after installing them and i do and apt-get update upgrade the touch screen stops working and i have to re-run the last command to re-install the drivers to get it working again. A little bit of a pain but you get that
19:08 #navit: < KaZeR> a bit odd, but maybe we can figure it out
19:09 #navit: < jawood> that would be nice thanks
19:09 #navit: < jawood> my pi is at the moment sitting at P: Retrieving Release
19:12 #navit: < KaZeR> oh you already started?
19:12 #navit: < KaZeR> well we should copy a few files on top of it first :)
19:12 #navit: < KaZeR> that way it is fully automated ( like, package installation )
19:12 #navit: < jawood> no probs i can do that
19:12 #navit: < KaZeR> ok
19:13 #navit: < KaZeR> iirc, you just need to copy the files from https://github.com/navit-gps/raspbian-ua-netinst at the root of your card after dumping the raspbian content on it
19:13 #navit: < KaZeR> ( e.g. : extract https://github.com/navit-gps/raspbian-ua-netinst.git to the root of your card
19:16 #navit: < jawood> ok i formated the sdcard and extracted the lattest zip to it
19:19 #navit: < jawood> i downloaded and copied the files to the root of the card as well
19:21 #navit: < KaZeR> great
19:21 #navit: < KaZeR> time to boot
19:21 #navit: < KaZeR> it's a pi or a pi2?
19:22 #navit: < jawood> pi2
19:22 #navit: < jawood> booting now
19:22 #navit: < KaZeR> ok. the automated install should take 30-40 minutes i believe
19:23 #navit: < jawood> no worries i will let you know when its has finnished!
19:23 #navit: < KaZeR> if it's successfull, at the end it will boot directly into X, with navit running
19:23 #navit: < KaZeR> great
19:23 #navit: < jawood> and thanks for your time
19:49 #navit: < KaZeR> my pleasure
19:49 #navit: < KaZeR> i needed someone to test this automated setup anyway :D
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20:38 #navit: < jawood> ok so the install has finished
20:40 #navit: < jawood> and i have a blank screen with a mouse pointer
20:40 #navit: < jawood> when i click on the screen it goes to the menu
20:43 #navit: < jawood> i must ask thou where is the raspbian xwindow desktop
20:55 #navit: < KaZeR> okay
20:56 #navit: < jawood> so am just wondering where we go from here?
20:56 #navit: < KaZeR> so, we need to get ssh access
20:56 #navit: < KaZeR> do you know which ip your pi is using?
20:57 #navit: < jawood> how to i find that
20:57 #navit: < jawood> if i quit navit i get some strange desktop ive never seem before
20:57 #navit: < KaZeR> try control - alt - f1 and login, then try ifconfig
20:57 #navit: < KaZeR> oh so it's actually working :D
20:58 #navit: < KaZeR> the blank screen is because you have no map
20:59 #navit: < jawood> ok when i press ctrl alt f1 it takes me to a prompt pi@pi:~$
21:00 #navit: < jawood> and if i type login i get cannot possibly work without effective root
21:00 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project
21:00 #navit: < Navit> it-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed
21:00 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
21:01 #navit: < KaZeR> oh you are already logged in
21:01 #navit: < KaZeR> just use ifconfig then
21:01 #navit: < jawood> i am totally lost now?
21:01 #navit: < jawood> ifconfig
21:02 #navit: < jawood> get command not found
21:02 #navit: < jawood> -bash: ifconfig: command not found
21:05 #navit: < KaZeR> sorry i'm doing two things at the same time
21:06 #navit: < jawood> no worries i can wait
21:08 #navit: < KaZeR> how long are you going to be online today ?
21:08 #navit: < KaZeR> really want to help you as we are close to get it to work but i will run out of time soon
21:09 #navit: < jawood> ill be here all day
21:10 #navit: < jawood> yeah its hard i know its late there its only 11am here
21:12 #navit: < KaZeR> oh wow. where are you from ?
21:12 #navit: < KaZeR> australia ?
21:12 #navit: < jawood> it would be nice thou if we can to get it going with touch screen and the raspian desktop back so i can install my obdii
21:12 #navit: < jawood> yes australia
21:12 #navit: < KaZeR> completely wild guess without even checking the timezone :D
21:12 #navit: < KaZeR> ohoh nailed it :D
21:12 #navit: < jawood> beautifull sunny day
21:13 #navit: < KaZeR> obdii, nice. we have some code to handle a few basic stuffs for j1850 :)
21:14 #navit: < jawood> as you can probably guess i am setting this up to be used as an incarpc
21:15 #navit: < jawood> lots to do yet thou and lots to learn with linux, im more of a windows guy fixing them all day is my day job
21:16 #navit: < jawood> i find the arduinos quite easy to work with but these raspberry Pi's are quite new to me
21:19 #navit: < KaZeR> have you seen the new touchscreen by the raspberry foundation? i'm buying one. ~$70 here
21:19 #navit: < KaZeR> i'm considering replacing my current carpc with that ( pi2+this screen )
21:19 #navit: < jawood> yeah the one that the touch screen plugs into the board rather than the usb port they look great
21:20 #navit: < KaZeR> yep
21:20 #navit: < KaZeR> can't wait to test it
21:20 #navit: < jawood> much better as they are supported by the raspberry pi no need to install drivers
21:21 #navit: < KaZeR> yeah and super cheap. and less cables is great. using hdmi is bulky?
21:21 #navit: < jawood> i might have to get one myself
21:21 #navit: < KaZeR> i can probably provide a script to setup everything :)
21:22 #navit: < KaZeR> ok let's get back to your matter. let's start with the touchscreen
21:22 #navit: < KaZeR> any chance i can get ssh access to your pi ?
21:22 #navit: < jawood> cool
21:22 #navit: < jawood> may be ill have to do some port forwarding in the router
21:23 #navit: < KaZeR> it's up to you, but it might help solving this faster
21:23 #navit: < jawood> and im currently using my 3g modem as the adsl here is playing up bad
21:23 #navit: < jawood> just need to work out what ip the pi is on and what port to forward
21:23 #navit: < KaZeR> ok. to get the pi ip : ifconfig from the f1 terminal
21:24 #navit: < jawood> ill just reboot the pi then you can talk me thru it from there
21:24 #navit: < KaZeR> reboot for what ?
21:24 #navit: < jawood> all right she is at the blank screen
21:24 #navit: < KaZeR> ok
21:25 #navit: < KaZeR> control + alt + f1 to get a terminal
21:25 #navit: < KaZeR> ifconfig
21:25 #navit: < jawood> now ive got a flashing cursor with no prompt
21:26 #navit: < KaZeR> control + alt + f8 maybe then
21:26 #navit: < KaZeR> wait you said you exited navit earlier
21:26 #navit: < KaZeR> using the touchscreen? or a mouse ?
21:27 #navit: < jawood> i have a mouse and keyboard attached to the pi
21:27 #navit: < jawood> ctrl alt f8 gives me blank screen with flashing cursor
21:28 #navit: < jawood> and nothing happens then i type on the keyboard now
21:29 #navit: < KaZeR> oh right.
21:29 #navit: < KaZeR> exit navit, it should free up tty1
21:29 #navit: < KaZeR> i need to improve that
21:29 #navit: < jawood> i took the sdcard out of the pi extracted the lattest navit image to it then extracted the other files to the root then put it in the pi and let it do its install thing
21:29 #navit: < KaZeR>  lattest navit image -> you mean the raspbian image ?
21:30 #navit: < jawood> yeah the one on your site the one you linked me to first
21:30 #navit: < KaZeR> ok perfect
21:30 #navit: < jawood> so im at the fluxbox desktop
21:30 #navit: < KaZeR> ok. control+alt+f1 should work now
21:30 #navit: < jawood> after exiting navit
21:30 #navit: < KaZeR> i mean you should get a prompt
21:31 #navit: < jawood> (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" with flashing cursor under that
21:32 #navit: < KaZeR> crap i don't remember which one it is. try control+C here ?
21:33 #navit: < jawood> xint: unexpected signal z then pi@pi:$
21:33 #navit: < KaZeR> ok
21:33 #navit: < KaZeR> ifconfig :)
21:33 #navit: < KaZeR> you'll get the ip
21:33 #navit: < jawood> if i do ifconfig i get -bash: ifconfig: command not found
21:34 #navit: < KaZeR> ok "sudo ifconfig" then
21:34 #navit: < jawood> get -bash: sudo: command not found
21:35 #navit: < KaZeR> now that's weird
21:35 #navit: < jawood> my thought exactly
21:35 #navit: < KaZeR> :)
21:35 #navit: < KaZeR> ip a s ?
21:37 #navit: < KaZeR> that's good i'm getting feedback here. i need to make this easier :)
21:37 #navit: < jawood> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000 link/ether b8:27:eb:20:d8:88 brb ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:
21:38 #navit: < jawood> 1: talks about loopback
21:38 #navit: < KaZeR> oh crap yeah i enabled wifi by default.. ok time to go root.
21:39 #navit: < KaZeR> let's try "ssh root@localhost"
21:39 #navit: < jawood> asking for password
21:39 #navit: < KaZeR> raspbian
21:40 #navit: < jawood> ok now i have a prompt root@pi:~$
21:40 #navit: < KaZeR> perfect.
21:40 #navit: < KaZeR> ifup eth0 ( to activate the ethernet card )
21:41 #navit: < jawood> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
21:43 #navit: < KaZeR> ok. the issue is in this file : https://github.com/navit-gps/raspbian-ua-netinst/blob/master/interfaces
21:43 #navit: < KaZeR> we need to remove the # on lines 4 and 5
21:43 #navit: < KaZeR> nano /etc/network/interfaces
21:44 #navit: < jawood> -bash: nano: cammand not found
21:44 #navit: < KaZeR> ok. ever used vim? this is going to be fun :)
21:45 #navit: < KaZeR> vi /etc/network/interfaces
21:45 #navit: < jawood> no i havent but that works
21:45 #navit: < KaZeR> then type exactly : [esc]:%s/#//g
21:45 #navit: < KaZeR> then : [esc]:wq
21:45 #navit: < KaZeR> this should remove the # (first command)
21:45 #navit: < KaZeR> then save and quit
21:46 #navit: < KaZeR> [esc] is the escape key, not literal text. my sentence could have been confusing
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21:50 #navit: < jawood_> wow i think i lost the connection anyway i get an ip address now
21:50 #navit: < KaZeR> ok cool. yeah you were disconnected indeed
21:51 #navit: < jawood_> ok so i guess now i need to do some port forwarding in my routers which port?
21:52 #navit: < KaZeR> tcp/22
21:55 #navit: < jawood_> ok done it should work but we shall see
21:56 #navit: < KaZeR> great
21:56 #navit: < jawood_> i have to go thru 2 routers ive put it in baoth of them but the telstra modems are quite crap and im not sure if it will forward
21:56 #navit: < KaZeR> is your ip 1.144.96.147 ?
21:57 #navit: < jawood_> 	10.102.111.44 is what my modem is telling me
21:57 #navit: < KaZeR> yeah stupid me. you're actually using the webchat :)
21:58 #navit: < jawood_> if i do a whats my ip i get 1.144.96.147
22:00 #navit: < KaZeR> interesting. none seem to work actually
22:02 #navit: < jawood_> i thought as much i think its an issue with the telstra modem I would have to disconnect change the modem to my billion and connect to adsl then it would work but that will take some time to do 5mins or so if you want to go that way other wise you would have to talk me thru it
22:03 #navit: < KaZeR> so, i *think* that it would still be our best option given that you are quite new to linux. but it's your call
22:03 #navit: < jawood_> i cant see any traffic getting thru the telstra modem to my mikrotik router
22:03 #navit: < KaZeR> your mobile provider might be blocking some ports too, like ssh
22:04 #navit: < jawood_> give me 5 mins ill set it up and reconnect to chat and let you know
22:04 #navit: < jawood_> probably
22:05 #navit: < KaZeR> sure
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22:16 #navit: < jawood> try that
22:17 #navit: < KaZeR> oki
22:17 #navit: < jawood> on the above ip or www.inshome.net.au
22:17 #navit: < KaZeR> yay!
22:17 #navit: < KaZeR> i'm in. ok. let's have a look at the touchscreen
22:17 #navit: < jawood> i can see data flow on the port now
22:20 -!- mode/#navit [+o KaZeR] by ChanServ
22:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> installing the touchscreen drivers
22:21 #navit: < jawood> cool just let me know how you go
22:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep
22:23 #navit: < jawood> will need to set resolution to 800x480 to i guess as its not full screen at the moment
22:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep. it's going to reboot now
22:25 #navit: < jawood> it has rebooted with full screen
22:25 #navit: < jawood> touch works too woohoo
22:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> that was easy :)
22:25 #navit: < jawood> for you maybe
22:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> now you just need a map and a gps receiver :)
22:25 #navit: < jawood> :)
22:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> well i have seen touchscreens that were really, really more difficult to setup :)
22:26 #navit: < jawood> yes i am still waiting for my gps to turn up
22:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok, now a map. http://maps.navit-project.org
22:27 #navit: < jawood> i have downloaded one its on my nas box
22:28 #navit: < jawood> where and how do i copy it to the Pi as there is no raspbian desktop with file manager or anything for me to use now
22:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah. we will have the map download directly from the app soon
22:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> how big is the file for australia ?
22:29 #navit: < jawood> 258mg not all of australia just east coast
22:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. two options : copy it, or download it from the pi
22:30 #navit: < jawood> how to i copy it
22:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> depends of the tools you have. you can use sftp ( filezilla ) for example
22:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> or we can download it again from the pi if you can spare the bandwidth, it's one command
22:32 #navit: < jawood> dont have any file transfer programs loaded on this PC all on my other desktop which is in a box (just moved house) maybe download it would be the way to go
22:32 #navit: < jawood> heaps of bandwidth
22:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> sure. exit navit, let's get another shell
22:33 #navit: < jawood> ok exited navit and did the ctrl alt f1 cant remember what to do from there
22:34 #navit: < jawood> ctrl c
22:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep
22:34 #navit: < jawood> then how to logon as root again?
22:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> not necessary
22:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you want too, ssh root@localhost
22:35 #navit: < jawood> ok so how do we download the map im at the command prompt
22:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> let's check where the maps should be : ls /usr/local/share/navit/
22:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> you should have a maps folder here
22:36 #navit: < jawood> yep
22:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok great
22:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> cd  /usr/local/share/navit/maps
22:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> ls
22:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> do you have a .osm file or a .xml file there ?
22:38 #navit: < jawood> there is osm_bbox_11.3,47.9,11.7,48.2.bin
22:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok perfect. it's the default map for Munchen
22:38 #navit: < jawood> where is that germany?
22:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> try : wget "http://maps9.navit-project.org/api/map/?bbox=110.5,-44.2,154.9,-9.2&timestamp=150827" -O Australia.bin
22:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep Germany. it's the home town of the lead dev :)
22:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> the &timestamp=150827  is not mandatory actually
22:40 #navit: < jawood> no worries it says its downloading
22:41 #navit: < jawood> 700 odd k/sec
22:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. we have two options from here : we create an xml file for Australia or we overwrite the default map
22:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah our server is a bit slow. too much workload :)
22:41 #navit: < jawood> nah its me on adsl 1 700k is the max it will do
22:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok.
22:42 #navit: < jawood> small country town
22:43 #navit: < jawood> i think we have the slowest most crappy internet in the world here :)
22:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm. mineque is not here, but Poland could compete :)
22:44 #navit: < jawood> i cant belive we dont have adsl 2 here its crazy aparently there is not enough ports in the local exchange to give me adsl 2
22:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> wow. here we have 4G on our phones and it's even faster than that
22:45 #navit: < jawood> yeah we get 4g on the phone but damm its expensive
22:45 #navit: < jawood> $10 per gig
22:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> about the same price here
22:47 #navit: < jawood> so i guess we have to edit the navit.xml file mapset field and change it to point to the new australia.bin map?
22:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> btw : do you have pictures of your setup? i want to refresh our screenshot / picture gallery
22:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah that's one option. another option is to overwrite the default map
22:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> up to you
22:48 #navit: < jawood> its just bits on the desk at the moment but i can upload some once i get it sorted..
22:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> please share :)
22:48 #navit: < jawood> easiest to overwrite i guess
22:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep
22:48 #navit: < jawood> map is downloaded
22:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> cp australia.bin osm_bbox_11.3,47.9,11.7,48.2.bin
22:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> done :)
22:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> one last thing to check : the default country depends upon your locale settings. what does 'locale' return ?
22:50 #navit: < jawood> LANG=
22:50 #navit: < jawood> LAUGUAGE=
22:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. may i get access to fix that ?
22:51 #navit: < jawood> no worries go for it east cost of australia sydney time
22:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm i can't log in. either your ip changed or your netcard isn't up
22:52 #navit: < jawood> one thing thou how do i get the raspbian desktop back with all the apps etc that i use to and a way to run navit from an icon
22:52 #navit: < jawood> ipaddress changed i just fix it in the router
22:53 #navit: < jawood> try now
22:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks. this install is meant to boot directly to navit but we can have a look
22:53 #navit: < jawood> my WAN ip is static
22:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. fixing the locale
22:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> rebooting
22:54 #navit: < jawood> i need to be able to get to other programs like media player and the obdii when i get it installed
22:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> you're in luck, we are integrating that in navit right now :)
22:54 #navit: < jawood> yep rebooting
22:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> what is your media source ?
22:55 #navit: < jawood> dont know yet i want to be able to connect a usb thumb drive and play movies of it
22:55 #navit: < jawood> she is back up with no map displayed
22:55 #navit: < jawood> and music of course
22:56 #navit: < jawood> i guess will have to set the center to my location in kempsey
22:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. for the map : we need to check where it's currently looking at
22:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep
22:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> when you exit, navit saves the current position in /home/pi/.navit/center.txt
22:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> is the search working ?
22:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha crap, the locale is set to en_US
22:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> my bad
22:58 #navit: < jawood> i just exited to command prompt how do i launch navit after exiting
22:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> may i reboot ? locale should be fixed
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23:06 #navit: < jawood> i think i got dissconnected again
23:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> possible :)
23:06 #navit: < jawood> anyway back again how did you go with the locale setting
23:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> i added LANG=en_AU.utf8 to /etc/default/locale
23:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> meanwhile i also changed your center coordinate. if i did not screw up it should be centered on kempsey ( 31.0833° S, 152.8333° E )
23:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> can we reboot to test that ?
23:08 #navit: < jawood> i will need to setup keyboard layout to us international again to as i think it uses the uk one by default which is different
23:08 #navit: < jawood> cool
23:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> keyboard should also depend upon the locale setting actually
23:08 #navit: < jawood> its rebooting now
23:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep got kicked out :)
23:09 #navit: < jawood> no map displayed on boot
23:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> crap. i could have screwed up.
23:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you try to search, is it working ?
23:09 #navit: < jawood> in navit local set to LANG=en_AU.utf8 (1=1 2=2)
23:10 #navit: < jawood> how do i do that
23:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. so searching is a bit clumsy and we will rework that soon. your feedback would be useful.
23:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> to search currently : go in the menu, action town
23:11 #navit: < jawood> yep
23:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. found kempsey ?
23:13 #navit: < jawood> not sure how to use it i type in kempsey then touch the green tick and it asks for stret
23:14 #navit: < jawood> so i put in river streethit the tick and it asks for number
23:14 #navit: < jawood> i enter the house number then what
23:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> after searching for the town, try "view on map"
23:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> instead of clicking street
23:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> you can click on the top menu to go back to a specific step
23:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> clicking on "Kempsey" should bring you back to this menu
23:15 #navit: < jawood> kempsey is not showing up there is no towns listed
23:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. sounds like a map issue. you do see the australian flag when you search for a town ?
23:17 #navit: < jawood> yes
23:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. if you go in settings/maps
23:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> you do see the same osm binfile listed with a green tickbox ?
23:18 #navit: < jawood> yep
23:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok.
23:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> i will reproduce what we did today on my pi, it will save us both some time.
23:19 #navit: < jawood> hang on no all thats in settings-maps is route which is ticked and route graph navigation tracking all have x 's
23:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> ah!
23:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> so the map is not loaded. i screwed up :)
23:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> connecting to check the config
23:19 #navit: < jawood> no worries
23:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh!
23:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> the xml file is missing that's why. easy to fix
23:22 #navit: < jawood> cool
23:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> btw : what's your plan for obd2 ?
23:23 #navit: < jawood> i was reading thru this http://www.cowfishstudios.com/blog/obd-pi-raspberry-pi-displaying-car-diagnostics-obd-ii-data-on-an-aftermarket-head-unit
23:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> i took a not to warn the user if there's no map at all
23:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh cool i'll dig this link. we can integrate that in navit if you want. One UI for all purposes, like in a real factory unit
23:24 #navit: < jawood> ok i can search to kempsey now and show on map works woohoo getting there now
23:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> yay
23:25 #navit: < jawood> that sounds cool
23:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> btw : you can even use the steering wheels button to control navit : https://hackaday.io/project/3070-the-cherokee-carputer
23:26 #navit: < jawood> i can more the map around with my finger so cool
23:26 #navit: < jawood> that is something i want to do too yes
23:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> cool i can definitely help on that
23:26 #navit: < jawood> i have a usb interfave for that in a box somewhere from when i was using a windows pc as my incarpc
23:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh you already have some experience with that great
23:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> is there something else you'd like to fix today ?
23:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> i will have to leave soon
23:28 #navit: < jawood> just would like to be able to get the the old raspbian desktop so i can do some other fiddling like change the password on the pi and do the upt-get update etc
23:28 #navit: < jawood> we can do it another day thou if you have to go
23:28 #navit: < jawood> i wil make an image of what we have done so far so we dont have to do it again
23:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'll also update the script. we just need one file to rebuild it all, that's the beauty of it :)
23:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> let's keep in touch and please share pics. i'm often around
23:29 #navit: < jawood> cool ow how do i zoom in and out on the map
23:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha, there's no icon ? damn it.
23:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> you're really the first one to try this build method for the pi :)
23:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> you can use + and - on your keyboard.
23:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> but you should have icons too. i'll fix that.
23:30 #navit: < jawood> cool its good to be apart of the testing then
23:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> awesome. if you like that i have plenty of testing for you ;)
23:31 #navit: < jawood> keyboard + and - not working
23:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> page up/down maybe? i never use the keyboard, only touchscreen
23:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> hangon
23:31 #navit: < jawood> i love it
23:32 #navit: < jawood> pgae up/down not work either
23:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. may i reboot? you will have the icons
23:32 #navit: < jawood> sure
23:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok
23:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> navit is not super user friendly right now, but we are working on it. one of the reason is that everything is configurable
23:33 #navit: < jawood> yes there is + and - icons now thou the map didnt start at kempsey
23:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> including everygthing on your display
23:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok it started to the crappy coordinates i set :)
23:34 #navit: < jawood> it really looks nice and will be good to see it come to maturity
23:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you do the search, next time you gracefully exit navit ( instead of rebooting ) the coordinates will be saved
23:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> i recommend that you have a look at our wiki : http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/List_of_all_config_options to get an idea of how configurable it is
23:35 #navit: < jawood> cool so if i exit navit how do i relaunch it
23:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> from a terminal : DISPLAY=:0 navit
23:35 #navit: < jawood> i have been slowly reading thru that over the past couple of days
23:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. the default theme sucks and we are going to change it. here's my personal one to give you an idea : https://github.com/pgrandin/navit-nuc-layout/
23:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> i have to go, but it was nice meeting you. i have a few things to fix now :)
23:37 #navit: < jawood> when i do the DISPLAY=:0 navit i get Gtk-WARNING ** cannot open display: :0
23:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok try :1 instead
23:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> DISPLAY=:1 navit
23:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh
23:38 #navit: < jawood> ok thanks for your help today and will be talking soon
23:38 #navit: < jawood> same error
23:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you did control+c this stopped the X server. if you are not logged as root, just try startx
23:38 #navit: < jawood> cool that did it thanks
23:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> great. center is correct now ?
23:39 #navit: < jawood> yep thanks for that now i just need to get my gps connected when it get here
23:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok perfect. since you are a new user i'm really interested in your feedback (usability, default settings, etc )
23:40 #navit: < jawood> have a good one and again thanks for all your help today
23:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> have to go now. have fun and let us know how it goes :)
23:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> my pleasure
23:40 #navit: < jawood> take care!
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