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12:15 #navit: < KaZeR> hi there
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13:30 #navit: < KaZeR> hey jandegr
13:31 #navit: < KaZeR> have you seen tryagain's work in #1324 ?
13:47 #navit: < jandegr> no, I searched 1324 over and over and no sign of tryagain
13:52 #navit: < KaZeR> that's because it was mdankov, not tryagain. i need another coffee.
13:53 #navit: < jandegr> kazer is mdankov and tryagain not the same ? if yes,  take 2 more coffees
13:54 #navit: < ambientsound> anyone experience problems with "garbled" map in latest svn version, especially when zoomed out?
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14:01 #navit: < ambientsound> the map was built from geofabrik source, using: maptool --protobuf -i norway-latest.osm.pbf norway.bin
14:04 #navit: < KaZeR> 2 more coffee that is. damn.
14:04 #navit: < KaZeR> ambientsound: do you have a screenshot? also what map layout are you using, the default one ?
14:08 #navit: < ambientsound> KaZeR: here you go. http://incendio.no/dump/45e50190-bash_001.png
14:08 #navit: < ambientsound> I believe it's the one named "Car"
14:09 #navit: < KaZeR> ok, looks like the default one from the screenshot indeed. by garbled, are you refering to the coastal line for example ?
14:09 #navit: < ambientsound> yes.
14:11 #navit: < ambientsound> also, there are artifacts when zoomed further in. for example: http://incendio.no/dump/691ce2b7-bash_002.png
14:11 #navit: < KaZeR> ok. since you seem to use navit on a pc and render maps yourself, you might be interested in http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/854
14:14 #navit: < ambientsound> thanks. I'm actually going to test Navit on a raspberry pi 2, for car computer usage.
14:15 #navit: < ambientsound> so it seems brb
14:15 #navit: < KaZeR> ha awesome
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14:36 #navit: < ambientsound> so it seems that patching for worse performance is not worth it
14:37 #navit: < ambientsound> KaZeR: this is the current setup. Using an Android phone, I'm not very happy with the decoupled architecture.
14:37 #navit: < ambientsound> http://imgur.com/a/6FCoq
14:38 #navit: < ambientsound> thus, the current plan is to evaluate Navit, and if it is good enough, purchase a 5" touchscreen and plug directly into the raspberry :)
14:39 #navit: < ambientsound> alas, google maps is very nice! but Navit seems very promising, and best of all, extremely configurable.
14:39 #navit: < ambientsound> (and no big brother spying...)
14:42 #navit: < KaZeR> ambientsound: yep you got the whole point :) we do have an almost fully automated installation of navit on raspberry : https://github.com/navit-gps/raspbian-ua-netinst
14:43 #navit: < KaZeR> still a bit experimental, but works. includes setup for the 2.8" LCD touchscreen
14:43 #navit: < KaZeR> my own setup : https://hackaday.io/project/3070-the-cherokee-carputer aims to provide a fully integrated setup, looking as factory as possible
14:44 #navit: < KaZeR> i'm often around if you need help just ask, i'd be happy to help
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15:33 #navit: < ambientsound> KaZeR: hey, that's pretty nice! NUC is a powerhouse :)
15:34 #navit: < ambientsound> I think I saw that OSD on github, what was the name of that?
15:36 #navit: < KaZeR> ambientsound: yeah indeed. but the rasbpi2 is also quite good, with a smaller footprint and some other advantages. i've started working on a prototype using a raspi2 and the new 7" capacitive touchscreen they just released
15:36 #navit: < KaZeR> the OSD is probably the one at https://github.com/pgrandin/navit-nuc-layout/
15:36 #navit: < KaZeR> we still need a decent night osd tho
15:38 #navit: < ambientsound> yes, that's the one!
15:38 #navit: < ambientsound> hmm... capacitive, you say!
15:38 #navit: < ambientsound> i've been looking at https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-5-800x480-tft-hdmi-monitor-touchscreen-backpack/overview
15:39 #navit: < ambientsound> temperature tolerance from -20C and upwards
15:42 #navit: < ambientsound> if you're interested in the source code btw, I put it here: https://github.com/ambientsound/caracas
15:43 #navit: < ambientsound> especially of interest is the raspberry pi HAT used to integrate with steering wheel controls, and interfacing with other car periphernalia
17:16 #navit: < KaZeR> ambientsound: thanks, very interesting
17:17 #navit: < KaZeR> please share more pics of your setup :)
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17:26 #navit: < KaZeR> btw ambientsound have you tried the ultimate gps in a real car setup? i have some issues in one of my project where the LCD hat is blocking the gps reception
17:31 #navit: < myself> I can't imagine putting the poor GPS right in there among all that digital noise.. it really wants to be out somewhere on its own uart/usb cable. :)
17:32 #navit: < myself> I've been using the $8 toshiba/ublox pci-5s GPS (emertyhacks' page has lots of info) and a $5 active patch antenna, on the end of a USB cable of arbitrary length, and it can be positioned wherever the signal is best.
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17:34 #navit: < myself> (I feel like most folks here are more software-focused and may not be super comfortable with soldering and stuff, so if y'all would like advice/examples/sources/whatever on the hardware stuff, don't hesitate to ask.)
17:37 #navit: < KaZeR> myself: that's great to know. i'm terrible at soldering but it's just because i'm goofy. i actually working on simplifying my hardware stack by using more custom picked parts
17:38 #navit: < KaZeR> i'll check this toshiba device, the price is great. one of my goal with the ultimategps board was to build a self-contained, small footprint device to use on my motorcycle, that i can easily plug in and remove (so ideally only one cable, for power). that's why i ruled out an external active antenna, pluging this everytime would be the best way to break the connector
17:40 #navit: < KaZeR> mm the pci-5s looks interesting for the price. how's the sensitivity ?
17:40 #navit: < myself> Yeah, the ultimategps is cute, for sure, and it's a nice price. The Toshiba is even cheaper, has flexible antenna options (might be a negative in some applications), does both USB and UART for flexibility, and has a configurable timepulse output for us timing nerds who want something other than 1pps. ;)
17:41 #navit: < myself> It's a Ublox, so, spooky-sensitive.
17:41 #navit: < KaZeR> interesting. btw, we could definitely use the help of someone who really knows about hardware, so feel free to contribute :)
17:41 #navit: < myself> As in, for fun, I soldered a stub of wire onto the PCB trace, eyeballed to "something like aquarter-wave at probably a gigahertz and a half, or thereabouts", which I estimated to be about an inch and a half.
17:42 #navit: < myself> Sitting on my bench, under two roofs and fluorescent lights, behind a brick wall, indoors with lots of noise around, it got a cold-start GPS lock in ~4 minutes. On a stub. of. wire.
17:42 #navit: < myself> Ublox creeps me out, man.
17:43 #navit: < myself> Anyway. Yeah. I'll contribute where/how I can. ask hardwaresy questions, I'll come up with answers! Heh.
17:45 #navit: < KaZeR> wow that's impressive. i feel like i need to buy one now.
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18:35 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: sleske's build (#641; push) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/641
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18:47 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#642; push) in navit-gps/navit (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/642
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