--- Log opened Mon Oct 26 00:00:08 2015 02:50 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 03:00 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-196-147-5.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 03:00 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: jandegr's build (#657; push) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/657 03:00 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-196-147-5.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 03:12 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-158-186-253.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 03:12 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#658; push) in navit-gps/navit (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/658 03:12 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-158-186-253.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 03:33 -!- RobertP [d9f3f0ac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.243.240.172] has joined #navit 03:35 #navit: < RobertP> hi 03:42 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has joined #navit 03:52 -!- epy [~epy@2a02-8429-80f2-1501-3e97-0eff-feaa-374d.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 04:20 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:22 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 05:20 -!- jonathanmaw [~jonathanm@82-70-136-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #navit 06:06 -!- zoff99 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/zoff99] has joined #navit 08:11 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-ynwluwybptddeumc] has joined #navit 09:42 -!- epy [~epy@2a02-8429-80f2-1501-3e97-0eff-feaa-374d.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:06 -!- RobertP [d9f3f0ac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.243.240.172] has quit [] 10:10 -!- zoff99 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/zoff99] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1/20090707221522]] 10:16 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-234-54-1.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 10:16 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: mvglasow's build (#660; push) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/660 10:16 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-234-54-1.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:17 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-161-207-142.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 10:17 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: mvglasow's build (#659; push) in navit-gps/navit (pull/32) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/659 10:17 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-161-207-142.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:27 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-157-151-243.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 10:27 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#661; push) in navit-gps/navit (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/661 10:27 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-157-151-243.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:53 -!- epy [~epy@2a02-8400-0114-0701-3e97-0eff-feaa-374d.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 11:38 -!- epy [~epy@2a02-8400-0114-0701-3e97-0eff-feaa-374d.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:00 -!- epy [~epy@174.249.0.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 12:34 -!- epy [~epy@174.249.0.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 12:48 -!- jandegr [5741586c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.65.88.108] has joined #navit 12:54 -!- RobertP [5cd9e7ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.217.231.171] has joined #navit 13:03 -!- Robotaxi [3ef5dbf5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.245.219.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:05 -!- mvglasow [4d0dbe32@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.13.190.50] has joined #navit 13:05 #navit: < mvglasow> hi kazer 13:06 #navit: < mvglasow> did you manage to have a look at #1324 yet? 13:23 -!- jonathanmaw [~jonathanm@82-70-136-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:49 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-ynwluwybptddeumc] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:15 #navit: < RobertP> I have aquestion, again: How is the map rendered? I ask because I think that navit prints the street names way too often. Once or twice per visible street would be enough - im my opinion. Its no major thing, but i feel it looks unprofessional. 14:18 #navit: < RobertP> Here is a picture: http://pasteboard.co/1FA2EZZL.png The Autobahn labels A39 and A2 are printed very often. 14:54 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.75] has joined #navit 14:55 #navit: < tryagain> RobertP Hi 14:56 #navit: < tryagain> Navit just attempts to put name on every street segment. It splits every street on every crossing to form segments. 14:56 #navit: < tryagain> And doesn't attempt to merge them back. 14:57 #navit: < RobertP> Would it be possible to count the occurences of the same street name to prevent that? 14:59 #navit: < RobertP> Is probably a bad idea... all names would be at the same side of the screen 15:05 #navit: < tryagain> actually it should not be not too hard (both computationally and to code) to merge connected segments with the same name and of the same type. That would allow much more perfect look, and allow to draw names where it's not possible now 15:48 #navit: < mvglasow> RobertP, tryagain: I opened a ticket for that a while back: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1251 15:49 #navit: < mvglasow> one issue is with segmentation itself: Navit splits OSM ways into segments wherever a point is shared by multiple ways 15:49 #navit: < mvglasow> i.e. crossroads, splits and similar 15:50 #navit: < mvglasow> currently this also happens when a road and a non-routable way (such as the boundary of a forest) share a node 15:51 #navit: < mvglasow> the worst case is when a road adjacent to a forest makes a long turn and the mapper has decided to have the road and the forest share the same nodes 15:52 #navit: < mvglasow> the difficulty is that routability is not set in stone: it is determined dynamically by the vehicleprofile 15:58 -!- jandegr [5741586c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.65.88.108] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:12 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:41 #navit: < tryagain> mvglasow iirc all routable items are defined in item.c inside struct default_flags default_flags2[] array. 16:42 #navit: < tryagain> i think i've hit once a problem with unability to route over a road not in that array 16:46 #navit: < mvglasow> tryagain maybe, I didn't look in detail into how routability is determined 16:47 #navit: < mvglasow> but I have encountered a road some time ago that shared nodes with a landuse polygon and the road was completely segmented, despite being a single way in OSM 16:49 #navit: < tryagain> yeah, it's the way the split works: it does not distinguish item types. But i think it shouldnt be a very common case... 16:49 #navit: < RobertP> mvglasow: Could you point me to the code, where the decision is made where to draw the text element? 16:49 #navit: < tryagain> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/graphics.c#L1165 16:51 #navit: < RobertP> thanks. ;) 16:51 #navit: < mvglasow> RobertP: sorry, I don't know my way around that part of the code particularly well 16:51 #navit: < RobertP> np. me neither. 16:52 #navit: < tryagain> we could start making it split item label into pieces to fit parts over complete way instead of attempting to fit whole label to each segment separately 16:55 #navit: < tryagain> also, some way simplification could be done at that point 16:57 #navit: < tryagain> For example, if middle points deviate small enough (say, 1/2 of text height) from the shortcut connecting two corner points of subsegment, we can draw label over shortcut 17:10 -!- mvglasow [4d0dbe32@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.13.190.50] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:22 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 17:40 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.75] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:47 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:50 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 18:07 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:08 -!- RobertP [5cd9e7ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.217.231.171] has quit [] 19:41 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Log closed Tue Oct 27 00:00:09 2015