--- Log opened Sat Nov 21 00:00:46 2015 03:18 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 03:54 -!- _rd [~rd@p5B2C75E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 05:13 -!- _rd [~rd@p5B2C75E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:20 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.220] has joined #navit 06:20 -!- RobertP [584a3e39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.74.62.57] has joined #navit 06:52 -!- jandegr [5bb4b297@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.178.151] has joined #navit 07:39 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:58 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 08:19 -!- _rd [~rd@p5B2C75E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 08:31 -!- _rd [~rd@p5B2C75E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:37 -!- RobertP [584a3e39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.74.62.57] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:45 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:51 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 08:52 -!- _rd [~rd@p5B2C75E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 10:01 -!- capitanocrunch [~capitanoc@host204-23-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #navit 10:05 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:05 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has joined #navit 10:12 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:01 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-90-63-92.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 11:01 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: mdankov's build (#743; push) in navit-gps/navit (tryagain-android21) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/743 11:01 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-90-63-92.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 11:15 -!- _rd [~rd@p5B2C75E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:39 -!- _rd [~rd@p5B2C75E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 12:05 -!- _rd [~rd@p5B2C75E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:22 -!- _rd [~rd@p5B2C75E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 13:07 -!- pini [~pini@88.189.102.17] has joined #navit 13:33 -!- _rd [~rd@p5B2C75E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:47 -!- capitanocrunch [~capitanoc@host204-23-dynamic.49-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:42 #navit: < tryagain> hi jandegr 14:44 #navit: < tryagain> it appears that app built with ndk 21 is not backward compatible with older android versions 14:45 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 14:45 #navit: < tryagain> navit crashes on attempt to resolve symbol signal, just as described here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28740315/android-ndk-getting-java-lang-unsatisfiedlinkerror-dlopen-failed-cannot-loca/28769262#28769262 14:48 #navit: < tryagain> So we have to keep with ndk 19 or below, or provide two apk versions. Though i do not see now reasons to switch to ndk 21. That has no relation to target sdk. 14:48 #navit: < jandegr> indeed, once you can build with ndk21, it misses stpcpy on lower than 21 devices 14:49 #navit: < tryagain> it also misses signal(), which was inline on pre-21 ndk 14:51 #navit: < jandegr> we can stick with 19, but that is just postponing the issue, there will be a day that you want or need > 21 and by then issues may have accumulated 14:52 #navit: < jandegr> I googled around for it and found no relevant info, however there must be more apps having this problem 14:52 #navit: < jandegr> or Navit the only one ? 14:52 #navit: < tryagain> https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=177530 14:52 #navit: < tryagain> http://stackoverflow.com/a/28769262 14:53 #navit: < tryagain> so it's not navit. Almost any app built with ndk 21 would be broken. 14:54 #navit: < tryagain> (on older androids) 14:55 #navit: < jandegr> hmm, looks like they are pushing towards having two apk's, I suppose we can make circle build 2 of them 14:55 #navit: < jandegr> and google play automatically delivers the correct one 14:56 #navit: < tryagain> yes, that's possible. But i do not see now reasons to do so. That would be needed only if we use some new ndk feature of 21+ 14:57 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:57 -!- xenos19841 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 15:00 #navit: < jandegr> not sure for ndk, bud sdk-api should always target latest, so we should be talking about 23 instead of 21 already 15:01 #navit: < jandegr> if you target an older api, then newer devices operate below their capabilities, but that is probably not so if you target an older ndk-api 15:10 #navit: < tryagain> not everything becomes better right after you increase target sdk. Some things may become broken, and we have to change or add code to properly handle them. 15:11 #navit: < tryagain> Though i do not see any problem to increase target sdk while somebody takes care to catch and fix above issues. 15:17 #navit: < jandegr> no problem, we just should avoid to get in a situation of years with no change as it was on the navit buildserver before the move to circel 15:28 -!- pini [~pini@88.189.102.17] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:30 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 15:52 #navit: < jandegr> I thought signal() was only used in maptool, since building on android without maptool solved the error during the buidl ? 15:53 #navit: < jandegr> hence I changed the android buildscript on circle to always skip maptool in the android build, don't really saw the point in building it in the android build 15:55 #navit: < tryagain> actually i see a few calls to signal() in other places, at least one in debug.c is already switched off for android 15:56 #navit: < tryagain> but signal itself might be embedded into other macro or inline functions 15:57 #navit: < tryagain> anyway, in tryagain-android21 i have fixed the reason the build was failed: different versions of NDK were used during try_compile and actual compilation 15:59 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-23-20-18-57.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 15:59 #navit: < circleci-bot> Canceled: mdankov's build (#744; push) in navit-gps/navit (tryagain-android21) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/744 15:59 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-23-20-18-57.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:00 #navit: < tryagain> i have sticked NDK version to 19. Build was successfull, i have cancelled it because i had enabled ssh to check androidmanifest contents. 16:01 #navit: < tryagain> so you may take it to see if it's able to run on older devices, and attempt to increase api to 23. 16:01 #navit: < tryagain> afk 16:07 #navit: < jandegr> ok, thanks 16:07 -!- jandegr [5bb4b297@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.178.151] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:11 -!- robertp [584a3e39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.74.62.57] has joined #navit 16:27 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 16:30 -!- xenos19841 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:32 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:51 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-196-144-101.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 16:51 #navit: < circleci-bot> Fixed: mvglasow's build (#745; retry by mdankov) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/745 16:51 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-196-144-101.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:51 -!- tryagain [~quassel@178.216.76.220] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-224-183-253.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 17:02 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#746; push) in navit-gps/navit (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/746 17:02 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-224-183-253.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:13 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:13 -!- xenos19841 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 18:28 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 18:30 -!- xenos19841 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:13 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:16 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 19:44 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@127-166-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:50 -!- robertp [584a3e39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.74.62.57] has quit [] 20:00 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project 20:00 #navit: < Navit> it-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-6261.failed 20:00 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 20:18 -!- capitanocrunch [~capitanoc@host205-220-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #navit 20:37 -!- capitanocrunch [~capitanoc@host205-220-dynamic.246-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:39 -!- chille [~chille@188.126.88.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:44 -!- bzed_ [~bzed@shell.bzed.at] has joined #navit 22:46 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Marc0, bzed 22:46 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: myself, curious 22:46 -!- bzed_ is now known as bzed 22:52 -!- tg [~x@unaffiliated/tg] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:52 -!- Brinky [brinky@faui2k3.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:52 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-71-231-174-131.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:54 -!- Brinky [~daniel@faui2k3.org] has joined #navit 22:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: myself, curious, Marc0 23:03 -!- tg [~x@unaffiliated/tg] has joined #navit 23:11 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-71-231-174-131.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #navit 23:59 -!- chille [~chille@188.126.88.107] has joined #navit --- Log closed Sun Nov 22 00:00:48 2015