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12:43 #navit: < KaZeR> hi there
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13:34 #navit: < KaZeR> hey jandegr
13:35 #navit: < jandegr> hi kazer
13:37 #navit: < KaZeR> 'sup jandegr ?
13:42 #navit: < jandegr> kazer where do you want to start with ?
13:43 #navit: < jandegr> most simple to start with is the old ios jailbreak build is fixed
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13:44 #navit: < KaZeR> i have seen that, congrats :)
13:44 #navit: < jandegr> 2) I did a few more fixes for heightprofile, but looking again now it seems the original dev did not bother to free things, so I suspect memoryleak
13:45 #navit: < jandegr> coverity seems not to detect this and 9 months ago since last scan on coverity anyway
13:45 #navit: < jandegr> and then genivi is another chapter I suppose :)
13:45 #navit: < KaZeR> mmm we should get a coverity report for each build in trunk. I'll have a look
13:46 #navit: < KaZeR> well actually if you have a moment i'd like to discuss genivi with you
13:46 #navit: < jandegr> ah, that is what you wanted to discuss ?
13:47 #navit: < KaZeR> not specifically, but since you brought the topic, i'm interested in your opinion
13:47 #navit: < jandegr> after patching automotive message broker the dbus error went away and I got it as far as the search uses the wrong search attr
13:48 #navit: < jandegr> and because of using virtualbox I have some issue with mapview
13:48 #navit: < jandegr> not trivial to build the whole thing :(
13:50 #navit: < KaZeR> yeah it's one of my concern. Because of their goal (be a standardized platform for multiple actors) their implementation is quite complex
13:51 #navit: < jandegr> but nevertheless a lot can be learned from it
13:51 #navit: < jandegr> at least for me..
13:51 #navit: < KaZeR> i believe that the project exists for something like 6 years. Today, if you download the demo image for raspberry, it's still a demo. End users cannot use it
13:51 #navit: < KaZeR> definitely a lot to learn. They've got a big contributor base, they've got some cool features being developped
13:51 #navit: < jandegr> it is a demo as in POC, nothing more
13:52 #navit: < jandegr> a lot would have to be tuned for real usage
13:52 #navit: < jandegr> and they fire 2 (TWO) navit instances
13:53 #navit: < jandegr> despite showing only 1 in their architecture drawings :)
13:54 #navit: < jandegr> that is for the demo app, what is wat we would look at first I suppose :)
13:58 #navit: < KaZeR> ah i did not know about the 2 navit instances
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13:59 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#1118; push) in navit-gps/navit (i18n/zh_TW) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1118
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14:01 #navit: < jandegr> Dec 31, 2015 Last Analyzed https://scan.coverity.com/projects/navit-gps?tab=overview
14:01 #navit: < jandegr> not that anybody looks at it, but I would once every two months or so :)
14:07 #navit: < jandegr> there is still a lot that can be said about genivi, but if you want to support it (even passivly) then be carefull with dead code removal,
14:08 #navit: < jandegr> https://github.com/GENIVI/navigation/tree/master/src/navigation/patches
14:10 #navit: < KaZeR> i'll fix coverity, i haven't looked into it for quite some time indeed
14:12 #navit: < KaZeR> i would like to ensure that we don't break what they need indeed. More users of navit, even if it's via another platform, can only be good. I hope that we can work closely with Philippe in the long term to foster interactions between the two projects
14:12 #navit: < KaZeR> on the other hand, i do believe that we should not wait for them and develop what we need on our side too. I believe that improving the features for carputer users could be a good move
14:22 #navit: < jandegr> I don't have a carputer, so I am not the intended audience, but an alternative for 'real usage' could be to give navit a way to communicate with their middleware
14:23 #navit: < KaZeR> well the fact that you don't have a carputer is why your opinion is valuable :) if i ask someone like robertp, he'll probably like "oh yeah we need that" :)
14:23 #navit: < jandegr> then you would give navit just some controls and osd's for audio and it can nontrol any genivi compliant audio player
14:24 #navit: < jandegr> nontrol = control
14:24 #navit: < jandegr> and make the audio code work on dbus
14:24 #navit: < jandegr> more a generic approach
14:27 #navit: < KaZeR> mmm it should be quite easy to move my current code to a standalone daemon, controlled via dbus, indeed.
14:27 #navit: < KaZeR> i actually like the idea
14:27 #navit: < jandegr> once you have one usecase, the road is open to contril all of your car :)
14:27 #navit: < KaZeR> exactly
14:27 #navit: < jandegr> control ..
14:27 #navit: < KaZeR> you definitely can't spell that workd :)
14:28 #navit: < KaZeR> s/workd/word/
14:28 #navit: < jandegr> study genivi architecture at the same time :)
14:33 #navit: < KaZeR> yep i'll reread it.
14:33 #navit: < KaZeR> regarding https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/115 :  i assume that when you submit a PR you expect the branch to be deleted once the PR is merge, correct?
14:34 #navit: < jandegr> done
14:35 #navit: < jandegr> I will commit myself when I fix the suspected memory leak
14:35 #navit: < jandegr> at least we have another icon instead of that joystick now :)
14:41 #navit: < KaZeR> yeah :) so from now one, if i merge a pr of yours i'll also delete the branch, just wanted to be sure that it was implicit on your side too
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14:43 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#1119; push) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1119
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14:49 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#1120; push) in navit-gps/navit (trunk) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1120
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14:56 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#1121; push) in navit-gps/navit (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1121
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15:05 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: pgrandin's build (#1122; push) in navit-gps/navit (master) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1122
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17:59 #navit: < alex____> hi there
18:02 #navit: < alex____> made a diff with my approach, map size (zip) about 300mb, old one from 02.2016 new 08.2016, diff size (gzipped) around 90Mb ... :(
18:03 #navit: < alex____> and ... bug with water fill.
18:06 #navit: < alex____> i will make some tests and push the code for a review.
18:10 #navit: < KaZeR> hey alex____
18:12 #navit: < alex____> hi KaZeR
18:17 #navit: < alex____> also spent some time to understood map format and compare it with zanavi one. nothing to tell yet. still has two nights per week.
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18:34 #navit: < KaZeR> ok, nice. If you have questions regarding the map format, i can forward them to Tryagain, he knows this quite well, just let me know
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