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13:59 #navit: < gernot_> hi
14:27 #navit: < kazer> hi there
14:27 #navit: < kazer> gernot_: did you think about the picture of the tomtom device in your car? :)
14:30 #navit: < gernot_> kazer: yes, home.arcor.de/g.fink/ot5.jpg
14:30 #navit: < gernot_> kazer: yes, home.arcor.de/g.fink/ot6.jpg
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14:45 #navit: < kazer> thanks gernot_ !
14:46 #navit: < kazer> nice!
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14:50 #navit: < gernot_> I changed the location to a "saver" position
15:05 #navit: < CarPCMan> I'm begining to realize I'll never get my Raspberry into my car..
15:10 #navit: < kazer> gernot_: in ot6?
15:11 #navit: < kazer> CarPCMan: oh, why that?
15:11 #navit: < gernot_> ot5 can fly in my direction
15:12 #navit: < gernot_> i think ot6 is ok
15:12 #navit: < CarPCMan> To much work to do, to little time, not enough complete software :(
15:13 #navit: < gernot_> CarPCMan: software for raspberry shold not be to hard.
15:15 #navit: < CarPCMan> A complete entertainment system with radio, navit, clean interface isn't normal
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15:19 #navit: < kazer> CarPCMan: you're not alone working on this, so with help from other members it should not be that hard. Really.
15:20 #navit: < CarPCMan> The only thing is carPC DIY, but that's outdated as fuck, and uses ugly hacks :) BUt if kodi could be compiled with x11 support, it would be A LOT easier!
15:23 #navit: < kazer> where are you currently stuck?
15:24 #navit: < CarPCMan> Got stuck when kodi totally fucked navit. It's ALWAYS on top because it doesn't have x11 support or something like that.
15:25 #navit: < CarPCMan> After that, I need to get radio working with a DVB-T dongle
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15:31 #navit: < robertp> hi
15:31 #navit: < kazer> hi robertp !
15:31 #navit: < kazer> perfect timing we are talking rasperry pis :)
15:31 #navit: < robertp> hi kazer, it's been a while.:)
15:32 #navit: < kazer> yeah, i was afraid that you ran away :)
15:32 #navit: < kazer> CarPCMan: do you really, really want kodi? in my opinion it's a really hacky setup
15:33 #navit: < CarPCMan> Anyother will do, but what would it be?
15:34 #navit: < robertp> I'd use ...nah... i USE simple debian with navit on top.
15:34 #navit: < CarPCMan> And for easy access to multimedia?
15:35 #navit: < kazer> CarPCMan: music or video?
15:35 #navit: < CarPCMan> Navit doesn't really cover that
15:35 #navit: < CarPCMan> Both
15:35 #navit: < kazer> actually it does cover music, even if it's still a bit experimental
15:35 #navit: < CarPCMan> And a way to control the radio
15:35 #navit: < CarPCMan> Isn't it just a patch?
15:35 #navit: < kazer> radio is in my personal todo list
15:35 #navit: < kazer> robertp has a branch with mp3 playback. It's not perfect, but with some feedback it could be really good
15:36 #navit: < robertp> No kazer it is not experimental. its just not beatified
15:36 #navit: < robertp> beautified. GRMBF!
15:37 #navit: < robertp> We were starting to push the audio framework to a official navit branch but i had not much time in the past months to finish this.
15:37 #navit: < kazer> well i called the whole music feature experimental, not the mp3 part :)
15:37 #navit: < kazer> mostly because we need more feedback and user testing :)
15:38 #navit: < robertp> I have a local fellow here whose only problem was postal code search of navit
15:38 #navit: < robertp> music works really fine
15:39 #navit: < robertp> sometimes my power-controller stalls, but the next HW revision is soldered.
15:39 #navit: < kazer> robertp: do you have the blueprints for your hardware publicly available?
15:40 #navit: < robertp> search my github, dude!
15:40 #navit: < robertp>  No, yes, of course.
15:40 #navit: < robertp> https://github.com/pohlinkzei/RPi_MFD_Interface
15:41 #navit: < robertp> the current revision which is currently working in two cars here.
15:44 #navit: < kazer> i could have searched indeed :)
15:44 #navit: < kazer> but this one is the interface for your buttons, and we were talking about your power controller
15:46 #navit: < robertp> That is the next rev: http://picpaste.de/rpiinterface2.png
15:47 #navit: < robertp> What do you think relay and buck converter are doing on that board??? :D
15:47 #navit: < kazer> oh boy
15:47 #navit: < robertp> I made one PCB for the interfaceing and power management.
15:47 #navit: < kazer> do you have the specs? Can i buy one?
15:48 #navit: < robertp> what do yu mena with specs?
15:48 #navit: < robertp> mean
15:50 #navit: < kazer> i mean, what does the board do exacly? provide power and auto-startup/shutdown?
15:50 #navit: < robertp> It does a couple of things:
15:51 #navit: < robertp> Watching the state of the head unit to start the pi if only the audio is on.
15:52 #navit: < robertp> Watch the central locking to boot the machine if i open the car that ist booted until i get in the car, fasten the seatbelt of my little passenger....
15:53 #navit: < robertp> Watch the data frame from the audio (remember: OEM stuff) to the cluster (that thing in front of the driver with a lot of dials and symbols)
15:53 #navit: < robertp> to get the current state of the headunit.
15:54 #navit: < robertp> control the relay to switch the power to the PI
15:54 #navit: < robertp> Read the buttons from the head unit (remeber: no touch screen on my device)
15:55 #navit: < robertp> here starts the difference between old and new version:
15:55 #navit: < robertp> Communicate the buttons via UART (old) or SPI / USB (new)
15:56 #navit: < robertp> Provide a USB-UART-Debug-Interface for the PI (new only)
15:56 #navit: < robertp> Enough, Kazer?
15:56 #navit: < robertp> :D
16:00 #navit: < robertp> I forgot a feature: It provides a I2C / TWI interface to other devices with level shifting.
16:00 #navit: < kazer> i love it. i guess that it also shutdown the pi if you turn off the engine?
16:01 #navit: < robertp> no. If i lock the doors
16:04 #navit: < kazer> even better.
16:04 #navit: < kazer> how much if i want to buy one
16:04 #navit: < kazer> (cause i do)
16:04 #navit: < robertp> how the fcuk can I start a private chat?
16:05 #navit: < CarPCMan> I hate custom encryption, really, fuck it
16:05 #navit: < CarPCMan> ./msg *person* ?
16:05 #navit: < kazer> yup
16:05 #navit: < kazer> ah no
16:05 #navit: < robertp> I am oviously way too dumb for that..
16:05 #navit: < kazer> it's /query actually
16:06 #navit: < kazer> CarPCMan: where is there custom encryption?
16:06 #navit: < CarPCMan> Some app I'm working on reversing
16:07 #navit: < CarPCMan> It's random as fuck.. Just changes random chars to something other, not many, but some
16:37 #navit: < gernot_> by
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