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07:22 #navit: < giovaqti> hello
07:22 #navit: < giovaqti> I have a question to ask to navit staff
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10:25 #navit: < CarPCMan> Heyo
10:25 #navit: < CarPCMan> kazer?
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11:17 #navit: < CarPCMan> kazer - global file bug - http://pastebin.com/ms1shDtu
11:18 #navit: < CarPCMan> And here is the only line I've changed http://imgur.com/a/orWLv
11:24 #navit: < kazer> hi there
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11:35 #navit: < kazer> CarPCMan: i know what's wrong
11:36 #navit: < kazer> in your mapset section, you should point to an xml file, not a bin file
11:36 #navit: < kazer> mmm wait actually
11:37 #navit: < kazer> i will have to double check that
11:37 #navit: < CarPCMan> If I copy the config file to ~/.navit/navit.xml, it works just fine kazer
11:37 #navit: < CarPCMan> The .bin file was already there as an example
11:37 #navit: < CarPCMan> Downloaded the map from - http://maps9.navit-project.org/
11:38 #navit: < kazer> are all the other settings working from the config file in /etc? is it just the map that does not work?
11:39 #navit: < CarPCMan> Idk, I can change the fullscreen and see if it obeys that?
11:39 #navit: < kazer> yep. debug would help too
11:40 #navit: < kazer> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/navit_shipped.xml#L19
11:40 #navit: < CarPCMan> kazer, it obeys fullscreen
11:40 #navit: < CarPCMan> But I'm using the version in the pastebin
11:40 #navit: < CarPCMan> Isn't that a old one?
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11:41 #navit: < kazer> ok interesting. I'll do some tests with the config file in /etc
11:41 #navit: < kazer> to get the version, try 'navit -v' instead of --version. Maybe we should add --version :)
11:42 #navit: < kazer> also you should be able to see the version in Menu/About
11:42 #navit: < CarPCMan> It prints the version at the end :p
11:42 #navit: < CarPCMan> "navit 0.5.0 unknown-"
11:42 #navit: < kazer> oh right
11:42 #navit: < CarPCMan> It's the SVN version lol
11:42 #navit: < kazer> so yeah this looks like you are using a binary from a package
11:42 #navit: < CarPCMan> The debian is outdated as fuck.......
11:42 #navit: < kazer> which would be incompatible with the current maps, because it's way too old
11:43 #navit: < kazer> yeah exactly
11:43 #navit: < CarPCMan> Is there a posibility it could be updated?
11:43 #navit: < CarPCMan> Well, it works if I copy the file :D
11:43 #navit: < kazer> yeah someone has to bug the maintainer... pini are you around?
11:43 #navit: < CarPCMan> Is there a easy way to compile from source?
11:43 #navit: < kazer> CarPCMan: this part is really weird
11:43 #navit: < CarPCMan> WIki Guide?
11:43 #navit: < CarPCMan> What part? :o
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11:44 #navit: < CarPCMan> He could smell you wanted him
11:44 #navit: < CarPCMan> :D
11:44 #navit: < kazer> haha
11:44 #navit: < kazer> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/ci/build_linux.sh is how we build on Ubuntu trusty for the CI
11:44 #navit: < CarPCMan> What about debian, properly the same?
11:44 #navit: < kazer> should be really close
11:44 #navit: < kazer> have to go afk should be back in 30/60 min
11:45 #navit: < kazer> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Debian_dependencies
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12:51 #navit: < ZeroOne> works like a charm on debian... I'm using it since years...
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12:55 #navit: < CarPCMan> kazer, you back yet?
13:13 #navit: < kazer> yep
13:13 #navit: < CarPCMan> How much do you know about radios kazer ? I have a problem finding pinouts for mine
13:14 #navit: < kazer> i have two arduino compatible boards, and they work with my arduinos. Haven't hooked them up to my pi yet
13:14 #navit: < kazer> tell me more
13:15 #navit: < CarPCMan> I have a VD0 RD3-01 - PSARCD100-07 radio
13:15 #navit: < CarPCMan> And I find all kind of pinouts (for the back of it), but they all say different stuff
13:16 #navit: < kazer> ah! i thought you were asking about breakout FM boards :)
13:16 #navit: < CarPCMan> Ohh, no, soryr :D
13:16 #navit: < kazer> do you have an example of conflicting docs?
13:17 #navit: < CarPCMan> I just got a adapter for the radio, but I need the pinout
13:17 #navit: < kazer> usually if the pinout change, the connector will change too
13:17 #navit: < CarPCMan> I can find some real quick
13:19 #navit: < CarPCMan> Should I PM them kazer ?
13:20 #navit: < CarPCMan> I'll just link here
13:20 #navit: < CarPCMan> http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/attachments/peugeot-forum/48888d1382168526-206-anyone-done-aux-input-mod-stock-stereo-blaupunkt3.jpg
13:20 #navit: < CarPCMan> http://www.tehnomagazin.com/images/Blaupunkt-gamma.gif
13:21 #navit: < CarPCMan> http://www.tehnomagazin.com/images/Clarion%20PU-2472A%20radio%20wiring.jpg
13:31 #navit: < kazer> looking at the first two links they look somewhat compatible
13:31 #navit: < kazer> you probably only care about connectors A and B
13:31 #navit: < CarPCMan> It's the C connector I'm interested in
13:32 #navit: < kazer> to power the amplifier?
13:32 #navit: < CarPCMan> I need to get 12v perm out, and 12v when the car starts
13:32 #navit: < CarPCMan> To power my Raspberry Pi. I still want to keep the radio in place
13:32 #navit: < kazer> ah, ok
13:33 #navit: < CarPCMan> I've got a adapter for it, but it only has cables in the middle part...
13:33 #navit: < CarPCMan> ANd I need to know which three places I need cables :P
13:33 #navit: < kazer> mmm i don't see a permanent +12 on the C connectors
13:34 #navit: < kazer> where are you planning to put the pi itself?
13:34 #navit: < CarPCMan> I have a case for it, so I can put it where the current dash display is
13:35 #navit: < CarPCMan> kazer, http://www.tehnomagazin.com/images/Blaupunkt-gamma.gif this shows a perm 12v
13:35 #navit: < CarPCMan> And a switched one
13:38 #navit: < kazer> yeah depending where you look :)
13:38 #navit: < CarPCMan> Is there anything names "forks" one talking about cables and carsteroes kazer ?
13:38 #navit: < kazer> do you have a multimeter?
13:38 #navit: < CarPCMan> Yeah, that's the problem.... I think I need just to go out an measure
13:38 #navit: < CarPCMan> But I HATE having to start/stop my car without driving it
13:38 #navit: < CarPCMan> Or should it turn the 12v on, if I just turn the key, without starting the engine?
13:38 #navit: < kazer> you should not need to start the car, just turn key, without starting the engine. You'll trigger the switched 12V
13:38 #navit: < kazer> exactly
13:39 #navit: < kazer> "Is there anything names "forks" one talking about cables and carsteroes kazer ?" : what do you mean?
13:39 #navit: < CarPCMan> kazer, http://www.carsound.dk/kategori.asp?id=2315&pk=43
13:39 #navit: < CarPCMan> Called a "gaffelsko" in Danish, Google Translate says "forks" :p
13:39 #navit: < CarPCMan> "terminal forks"?
13:41 #navit: < kazer> i would advise using a connector instead of something like this
13:42 #navit: < CarPCMan> Gonna send you a picture in private real quick kazer
13:43 #navit: < kazer> ok
13:45 #navit: < kazer> got the picture. it might not be easy to find the metal connectors alone, and the 'fork' you pasted will be too big
13:45 #navit: < kazer> i think that your best bet would be to buy a spare connector, and remove the metal part from the new one to use in the old one
13:45 #navit: < CarPCMan> But would it work with a "fork"
13:45 #navit: < CarPCMan> Damn.
13:45 #navit: < kazer> usually you can lift a pin and remove it from the metal casing
13:45 #navit: < CarPCMan> But then I could just move the current ones around, right?
13:46 #navit: < kazer> yeah you can rearrange easily usually. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vw-Renault-Blaupunkt-Becker-Etc-Iso-Mini-Blue-Plug-Set-Connector-with-wire-pins-/141709365618
13:47 #navit: < CarPCMan> Payed 5,7 euro for the one I sent you, 50 DKK
13:47 #navit: < CarPCMan> But I didn't know what the hell it was called...
13:47 #navit: < kazer> but it has only half the pins :)
13:48 #navit: < CarPCMan> But I'm considering installing an wheel control radio stalk in my card, and hook up
13:48 #navit: < CarPCMan> Yeah...
13:48 #navit: < CarPCMan> And that sucks
13:48 #navit: < kazer> you can also try to get it from an auto salvage yard
13:48 #navit: < CarPCMan> That's where I got the current one :p
13:49 #navit: < kazer> ah ok :)
13:49 #navit: < CarPCMan> My main failure when going to auto salvage yards is, that I never hakle the price
13:49 #navit: < CarPCMan> I just accept it.......
13:49 #navit: < kazer> well if you buy another one like this you should have enough pins to populate the first one
13:49 #navit: < kazer> haha
13:50 #navit: < CarPCMan> Hhahaahhaha :D Yeha, but it'll cose quite a lot
13:50 #navit: < CarPCMan> cost*
13:50 #navit: < CarPCMan> kazer, do you have any idea how hard it is to install http://www.ebay.com/itm/PEUGEOT-CITROEN-RADIO-CD-AUDIO-REMOTE-CONTROL-STALK-SWITCH-GENUINE-PART-6242Z6-/360498956646
13:51 #navit: < kazer> is 50dkk a lot? (i have no idea of the cost of life in your area :) )
13:51 #navit: < CarPCMan> The average wage is 110 DKK an hour, but for that plastic and some cables, it should properly be 25 DKK
13:51 #navit: < kazer> this looks like the one that goes on your steering wheel, is that correct?
13:52 #navit: < kazer> you can look for auctions on ebay for the connector, i usually find parts like this
13:52 #navit: < CarPCMan> kazer, yeah, I'm considering installing that too. But I'm wondering how hard it's
13:53 #navit: < kazer> depends if you have the connector on your steering wheel, first. I'd start by checking that.
13:53 #navit: < kazer> how many pins are you missing? something like 2 or 3?
13:54 #navit: < kazer> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auto-Mini-ISO-Adapter-8pin-AUX-Input-RCA-Caleb-for-VW-Blaupunkt-CD-Models-/261749672717
13:54 #navit: < kazer> beware that you will have actually only 3 pins with this one :)
13:55 #navit: < CarPCMan> I only need for power, and the current onces I can just take out, and use for something else
13:55 #navit: < CarPCMan> Unless I want to connect the Raspberry Pis audio to the radio, but I'm not sure that'll work
13:55 #navit: < kazer> not sure i'm following
13:56 #navit: < CarPCMan> OH!
13:56 #navit: < CarPCMan> It's because I'm switching between taling about the steering wheel controls, and the raspberry Pi
13:56 #navit: < CarPCMan> If I'm going to have both, then yes I need a couple of more pins
13:58 #navit: < kazer> ah :)
13:59 #navit: < kazer> looks like you could use pins 19 and 20 of C3 for the pi audio
13:59 #navit: < CarPCMan> Source? Found a good pinout?
13:59 #navit: < kazer> it's consistent on two of the 3 pinouts you shared. Also the device from my last link should do exactly that :) you just need to replace the rca with a jack
14:00 #navit: < kazer> http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/attachments/peugeot-forum/48888d1382168526-206-anyone-done-aux-input-mod-stock-stereo-blaupunkt3.jpg
14:02 #navit: < CarPCMan> What is C2 11?
14:04 #navit: < kazer> ```
14:05 #navit: < kazer> c2 11 is probably the data line for the remote
14:10 #navit: < CarPCMan> Well, I'm considering installing cuise control, and the radio control stalk, and the finishing it up with a Raspberry Pi with navit :D
14:10 #navit: < CarPCMan> And then I have to sell it properly.... :(
14:13 #navit: < CarPCMan> kazer, does the latest release have Spotify?
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14:41 #navit: < kazer> CarPCMan: all audio code is currently in a branch. we want to test it a bit more before considering merging
14:41 #navit: < kazer> do you need help building that branch?
14:43 #navit: < CarPCMan> I first need to get everything working in the car first, then I can try building the audio branch :D
14:43 #navit: < kazer> ok. poke me anytime, it's easier than it looks.
14:44 #navit: < kazer> Do you have a free spotify account? or the premium one?
14:44 #navit: < CarPCMan> Premium
14:44 #navit: < CarPCMan> Does it work with free?
14:46 #navit: < kazer> no, you can't use libspotify with a free account
14:46 #navit: < CarPCMan> You could to begin with :(
14:46 #navit: < CarPCMan> :D
14:48 #navit: < kazer> tell spotify :)
14:49 #navit: < CarPCMan> hey kazer, are you a git wizard btw.?
14:51 #navit: < kazer> i would not call myself a wizard but i know my way around :)
14:53 #navit: < CarPCMan> How would I go about having a master branch, and a dev branch?
14:53 #navit: < CarPCMan> Do I have one directory, do I have 2 directories on my computer? Or what?
14:53 #navit: < CarPCMan> Do you have someplace I could read about it?
14:54 #navit: < kazer> github has some good documentation : https://guides.github.com/introduction/flow/
14:54 #navit: < kazer> branches do not create local folders
14:54 #navit: < kazer> ah scratch that link
14:55 #navit: < kazer> https://git-scm.com/book/en/v1/Git-Branching-What-a-Branch-Is is a bit lengty but should get you started. let me know if you have questions
14:55 #navit: < CarPCMan> I think I might read up on it tomorrow
14:55 #navit: < kazer> ok sure
14:56 #navit: < CarPCMan> And all the other stuff.. Currently at my girls place :p
14:56 #navit: < CarPCMan> So I have to be a BIT social
14:56 #navit: < CarPCMan> But thanks for all the tips etc. tonight kazer !
14:57 #navit: < kazer> my pleasure
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16:46 #navit: < robertp> hi
17:00 #navit: < kazer> hey robertp
17:02 #navit: < robertp> hi kazer... I probably forgot what I wanted to ask.
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17:57 #navit: < kazer> haha
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